Quote from Richie Cahill :

There's people still using internet explorer?

According to the W3 Schools stats: IE 53.5%, FX 41%, Opera 1.7%. So there still are some few people using it...

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....wow

Sry, a bit offtopic...

Looks like they must be grippier than the originals...

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

My suggestion : LX6 on as3. I drived this combo on a race league, and it was very fun

Well... This is supposed to be an LX4 server, not LX6. This has nothing to do with my opinions, I would actually prefer LX6 but the car seems to be decided already.

AS3 aka Aston National is probably the most overused track configuration around. And this has nothing to do with my opinions either, it's just a plain fact. Again Aston National mostly consists of straights and is very wide, so it's not very suited for interesting racing with a slow, manouverable LX4.

Of course I'm glad you had fun on that combo but certainly I hope this server would be special enough to not use that track and choose some more interesting ones instead.

A properly organized LX server sounds very good to me! And it sure is nice to ask the becoming users what they want to drive.

But I'm afraid people will just throw in the same combos they're already used to. There's always this Aston Club, which people have a great number of laps on. Same goes to Fern Bay Club (reversed or not) and South City Classic. These tracks are already raced to death even though there are some more interesting alternatives like Fern Bay Gold or Black. Fern Bay Black could quite possibly scare the beginners away, which is a shame. As a track it would be an effective learning experience, you would have to turn your steering wheel every now and then.

LX4's relatively low top speed makes it a bit questionable to use it on longer and wider tracks as many Aston configurations, Kyoto and Westhill. If you're looking for tracks that suit your car, South City and Fern bay are the places to go. It's just a bit difficult to find fresh combos there anymore. (which makes room for the Aston Cadet reversed suggestion.)

In general, I'd vote for the tracks with more than three corners in them.

Quote from buusap :

I thought u had enough logic to realise what i was talking about

everyone else seems to

Bloody Finns...

Quote from bbman :

Considering the mess they made with the Euskadi, I'm not really excited about it anymore...

Well, mess is a good word here. They did hell of a job with the sounds. I'll never insult sample based engine sounds again after hearing and driving the Euskadi. The graphics are nice as well.

The tires are quite difficult yeah. It takes a bit of setup work to get over it. I thought it's more of a challenge. But the worst thing is the way some of the Enduracers team members deal with people on rsc forums. When some people give constructive feedback, they just get called ****s who can't drive at all. That's what causes the mess imo. It's interesting to see how Enduracers' work continues. At least this was the mod which made me purchase rFactor.

Quote from Homeless_Drunk :

Exterior stickers: 50HP per sticker
Interior stickers: 500HP per sticker

Now that's bs. It's 10HP and 20HP iirc.

Nobody gets 500HP just by adding a sticker (this is actually why you need more of them)

This thing worked surprisingly well to be honest! I certainly will try it in near future again.

It would be good to develope the idea further imo... Some kind of display for the queue position would be nice as well as a display for which car will be used in the next race. If there's some energetic coder behind this, he could create some kind of tracker, which shows players' winning percentage (race and bet, of course) and some additional nice-to-know stats. Maybe some of these features already exist but I just didn't spot them?

Fresh idea, weird that it wasn't implemented already earlier

Interesting thread. Especially maggot's and fuse's drawings look great. Keep em coming!

Quote from The Moose :

I don't think about anything really, I'm certainly never concentrating on braking markers, what speed I'm doing or any other distractions
I'm entirely focussed on how the car is handling and keeping it on the edge of traction.
When teammates ask how i did this or what gear I'm taking that in i often have to really think about what i did and analyse it to answer them as I'm not really aware of what I'm doing at the time.

Quote from Gutholz :

Do "the best" drivers really drive that much by learning brake-points by heart? Maybe for some i-want-the-hotlap-for-this-combo I could imagine that. Personelly I always drive by feeling but then Iam not very fast.
At least in stragety games (C&C, Starcraft Broodwar, TA etc) playing by feel works quite good for me, I never remember any buildorders or unitprizes.

I think when driving this way, learning a new track is much easier.
Or you just suck at all tracks, like I currently do

Maybe this "driving by feeling" is what makes people inconsistent. This approach may work quite well in pick up races. (I guess Moose is the guy who's always on a CTRA server ) This is the only way to survive the first few laps on a new combo anyway. I consider it the basis I try to build the pace on.

But if an unexperienced racer decides to just drive according to his/her feelings, it might restrict the progress. At least I always find myself thinking all the time when driving. Like... where should I improve? Should I change my line through a certain corner? Thinking is good imo. Especially when building a set or practising for an event. It's good to understand what you could change in your set and what should be adjusted inside the helmet.

What I like about LFS is that it works logically. In Counter-Strike I used to be really inconsistent. I could blame the server or my connection and the physics were quite fictional. However, in LFS you can know what you need to do to get it going. Be aware of the weight transfer rather than your steering input. Taking care of your car's balance and tires is more important than just blindly applying a certain amount of throttle. If I lose my concentration I just start to think like "here I turn my steering wheel and there I apply the throttle", and all the progress stops. That's when I know I'd better do something else instead of tring to drive.

My point is that there is no "trick". Keeping your mind on the right things and having a bit of technical approach can speed you up and enhance your consistency.

Last edited by Profi, Wed 4 Jun 2008, 10:05. Reason : brainfarts

JeffR:

Oops, never heard of that before. Sounds quite Alonsoish
The tires must have been made of steel those days if they could take it...

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

And south city tracks damage your clutch badly. Just like rally tracks.

I guess it's usually the driver damaging the clutch...

And on the topic. There are some tricky bumps in south city. After you learn them the track is not so different. It's true that the walls tend to rearrange your cambers if you go off but you wouldn't want to go off on any other track either.

Left pedal = brake - middle pedal = unused - right pedal = throttle.

No heel and toe; left foot braking for the win. And leaving the middle pedal free; no need to keep your thighs together. Heating up your balls exposes to testicular cancer anyway.

Just a tribute of the great season we just finished

Looks good. Just go online and be a bit more courageous.

The problem with your fronts might be caused by the way you enter the corners. When you notice the understeer you just turn your wheel more. This makes you scrub the tires more and induce even more heat. You should rather try and use some weight transfer to gain the grip on your front tires. A bit like throwing your car around a corner. Maybe you could tweak your antiroll bars as well to make the car more oversteery when entering corners. This may make it a little trickier to drive but is good for your tires.

When racing online you can lurk how the others set their cambers and how they cope with problems like this. So it's better for your progress as a racer to get online and learn from others. Their acts on the tracks tell you more than their words on the forums.

Quote from Michael Denham :

Unless you started playing before this forum started I started in August 2002, along with a lot of others, when the first demo was released.

I thought LFS was at RSC forums first... I would've guessed that I downloaded LFS in late 2002 or early 2003 and lfsforum was launched later. Not 100% sure though

The big failure in that replay was Calibra's skin

FXO seems to have a way faster WR but you all made a lot of mistakes. You had your possibilities to beat the FXO imo but you burned your tires instead. It wasn't too bad after a two-week break though. Try again and suprise yourself.

Don't take me wrong, I'm really into praising the RWDs. The car choise just didn't decide this race...

Quote from zeugnimod :

I simply use it because I prefer this view and I have more FUN driving in this view. If you can understand it or not. I don't have to "explain" myself.

I'm not trying to be difficult now, don't get me wrong...
Have you ever tried to learn the cockpit view? As I told earlier in this thread I changed to it quite recently and I have used custom view for years. I'm sure cockpit view makes it easier to sense what the car is doing. I know you're a friend of good racing and I really would love to hear your thoughts about cockpit view after a few nights of training. I'm just being curious here

Oh my, you guys make this look complicated

Anyway... I've been on both sides. I used to drive with that custom view until the patch which added the option to force the cockpit view. I think it makes 4 years of LFS with just front wheels visible. Some people asked why I didn't use the cockpit view. I explained that with my poor CPU the cockpit would've hurt my framerate and only 1/3 of my little screen would've been showing what was happening on track. Then, suddenly there was a nice LX6@so1 server running and my beloved custom view was blocked.

This made me try how it worked with that stupid, long LX bonnet in front of me. My laptimes were many seconds slower and I had no clue where my car actually was. I was crashing all the time. Slowly I got used to it and almost got my custom view lap times back.

Afterwards I've tried the custom view a few times. The change from custom to cockpit view was quite natural and I was keen on learning it. Changing back to custom just feels horrible. I can't sense the directions properly and I find myself sliding around too much. Just the same things I was told earlier and I didn't believe. Now I'm 100% sure that cockpit view has made me faster as well.

I've never understood that someone really uses the chase view for racing, so I can't tell about my experiences with it. But no matter which view you're using now, I strongly recommend trying the cockpit one. Not just for one lap or one race, but for one evening or two evenings. I believe you'll find it rewarding.

I have no opinion on the poll but I felt that I had to say this

Quote from Cash_FLow :

ive seen ppl with 1.11... time...my best is 1.14.xx

You must have see the demo guys doing good job as the S2 drivers seem to be quite a bit slower... And these guys have usually been reasonably fast in single seaters afaik http://icespy.zilium.de/pb/top/BL1/FBM/10

Search a Prt Sc button on your keyboard and then push it.
Next launch Paint or any other similar sophisticated tool and choose Edit/Paste.
Then save the screenshot. The function is usually nicely under File/Save As...
You're ready!

Hey!

What a great utility indeed! I wonder why I haven't noticed this one earlier... The crosshair combined with the dot on the simple map is just what I was always longing for when using F1PerfView. That plus the ease of use in general is what makes this app great

If I may point out one disadvantage, I'd say I don't really like the all white background here, I'm too used to the F1PerfView colour scheme. If there is an option to change it, please tell me. Would be hard to find cons for this app then

Thanks.

Quote from rc10racer :

LMAO very nice video, nice to appie trying to act and model (for some reason his acting reminded me of an 80s porno scene ).

Appie was one of the greatest porn stars in the 80s

Haha that replay made my day All that blocking, cutting, crashing and the last but not least: "u idiot i didnt do anything wrong" There were already many reasons to at least say "sorry".

Try thinking twice before you make such moves. Or ten times. That stuff just had nothing to do with respectful racing. And you know, cutting is bad mmmkay.

Quote from Cargo :

It just a view that after hitting the brake zone, a glance at the speedo, I try to look for 100-110. Then I figure I hit it good and yes, get to full throttle asap for the long run to Turn 2.
/thanks

This caught my eye. I think it's not good to watch speedo at all while braking. For me the braking is the most difficult part of a corner and I always try to keep my concentration on the car's movement, trying to not lock the tires, avoiding slides etc. Remember that you'll never get rid of the corner well if you can't make the car turn in well, and that depends a lot on the way you brake.

So I'd advice you to learn to hear your speed. As you get to know which gear you choose for the T1 there, just try to memorize the revs you have to use there. Later you'll do it subconsciously and you have more time for handling the car.