Maybe so, but its true. I remeber him saying after Aussie GP on after race conference: "Yea, i have shown good speed today, and im ready to take on the championship, so cmon, bring it on!" And its the "cmon, bring it on" that clearly shows what a "cant find the word" he is. Yes i dislike him alot. Its his behaviour. Like he thinks he is the sh1t and what not. But on track it shows just what an incomplete driver he really is. I for myself can't imagine him beeing incorporated in any other team than McLaren, which clearly is his daddy'o hole. Even Alonso had enough of him and ran away after 1 year ffs. Although i dont like him either, but it showed how he cant stand the ridiculosness thats goin on in McLaren.
EDIT: reffering to Tristans and Garphs conv.
EDIT: reffering to Tristans and Garphs conv.
lolermauer, the race at monaco is trully like poker, u can have the best hand (AA), but still loose it to the (7 2), if the fooker on the other side of the table is crazy enough to play it, then lucky big time to win it.
Other than that, i dont like Hamilton, and i dont like Alonso either. Kimi is ze sh1te!
Bcz after the save he did in monaco, that was the demonstration of who of the top of the line is on top of that line.
Now pls save your fingerz, i dont wanna b flamed.
Other than that, i dont like Hamilton, and i dont like Alonso either. Kimi is ze sh1te!
Bcz after the save he did in monaco, that was the demonstration of who of the top of the line is on top of that line. Now pls save your fingerz, i dont wanna b flamed.
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Popcorn anywone? Ill charge a small amount of 1 EUR per 10 posts to anyone who wants it form me.
If this will be ligth years ahead of the pack we shall see. 1 thing is certain. It will most probably be light years ahead in their service, as nobody uptodate has charged so much money for a league participating. Other than that, we are yet to see how far ahead it is in terms of physics and track behaviour and "nature" dynamics aka. wind, weather and temperature.
Now if you are hard core league enthusiast, allways unhappy of the services and racing code other leagues in any other sim give you, your spot on with iRacing as it will deffo have never before seen league admiing. As for all the stuff that trully count (at least to me) in a simulator, IF however they will be included, then i will have no more to say but to somehow accept it and purchase it. If they will not be included, then all i can say is have a nice play in a best league there is.
What im judging is the price. I cant judge anythign else because there isnt anything else on the subject out yet. When it gets out though, i hope it will be as good as a smoke after sex. If it wont, then we can pretty much say goodbye to all that we(I) want from a proper racing sim. Unless its gonna cost even more. So now i wait, for it to come.
True, but then again a racing sim in its demo element gives you full view of the physics and onrrack situation. And something, as radical in pricing terms in simracing as iRacing will be, they even have the balls to put no demo out. Not even 10 hr free trial run if you want. Only $$ count for them. Now if you have a slightliest sence of whats good and whats bad, you cant just go around and wait for it to be released and buy it asap. It better be pretty damn fabulous to persuade enough ppl to get it. And yes, i know it all specualtion, but the pricing model sits tight atm, and to me it smells very bad.
I hope you were jokin' -> lol you was
The whole deal with this situation is not mainly the price, its the principles. The idea of the 21st century looks like to be "squeze as much money of the ppl as we can, on every possible step". Thats the thing thats wrong here. Surely we have to wait until it is released, but what if it in physics terms won't be so much better than stuff we have now? Or if it will not feature some really realistic elements, and elements trully never before seen? I can tell you what will happen. All other sh1t is gonna see this and gonna start charging in same style for their product. Would you all like that? I wouldnt want that. And keep in mind, iRAcing has yet to proove that it is worthy of the purchase, and more i think about it, the way it looks its gonna turn out it will not justify the pricing. But i might be wrong on this. But to get me purchase it, it must have some very advanced simulating. Not the online racing scheme. As far as im concerned, this scheme is turning me away even more than it b4 i knew about it.
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Erm, EPiC FAiL? Scipy, i hope your dick is still getting hard bcz of the normal things, you know, boobs and pussy?
Yea. I just came from watching it, and i was ROFL, Spielberg and Lucas have gone mad. Worth a watch
Still if those were the thigns that would be known, known to be included along with some other stuff like grip varying and rubber put on track -> increased grip and so on, i would not doubt the product, not for a second at the current pricing. Then and only then will the pricing scheme be acteptable to me, not bcz of some leet mapping and modeling and bcz of equal race system.
We can somehow experience close racing in leagues such as OLFSL, where racing tends to be as close as possible. If that is the only thing they are providing, then i wish them very best of luck. But as i allready said, if all those unknowns are gonna turn ou to be fully supported, thus trully providing the ralism in racing as never before seen, then i would consider purchasing it very seriously.
Just to make something clear, i am not some fantical fanboy of LFS in any way. And in one aspect of the whole iRacing deal i like very much, it having the system to put similar skilled racers in their divisions at all times, thus giving the best possible racing to them at all times. What i dont like about it, is it beeing as closed to use as East Europe was in cold war. Paying for the product mothly to drive what they let you drive, and then paying some more for the stuff you raced hard to get there, and then participating in a league they let you participate in, and physics engine we have heard nothing of, only that it has track/car modeling like never before seen.
So yea, if that makes me a world hater, its up to you to believe. I dont care how much money ppl have, but things like these are just first steps towards them charging us for the amount of sh1t we sh1t, per kilo vise. And i know i cant fight it, but i sure as hell will say somethign against it, at least thats the right i still have.
If indeed will show up that this is going to be something out of this world, it will have to have some VERY impressive features, and if not, then it can cost 1000 $ per month and i will just laugh at it.
So yea, if that makes me a world hater, its up to you to believe. I dont care how much money ppl have, but things like these are just first steps towards them charging us for the amount of sh1t we sh1t, per kilo vise. And i know i cant fight it, but i sure as hell will say somethign against it, at least thats the right i still have.
If indeed will show up that this is going to be something out of this world, it will have to have some VERY impressive features, and if not, then it can cost 1000 $ per month and i will just laugh at it.
I did not mean it like that. And i said it few posts down. And if you cant understand what i mean im rly sorry for ya. If indeed is gonna be very great sim we shall yet see. Superman Returns, the movie was suppsed to be da sh1t and what not and look how rubish it turned out. Maybe youre some tester or somethin and you know more than i do, but its just i dont believe it if i dont see it, thats all. Now give me a brake with all this that im anti US, couse im not, im just anti politics. Get it?
Bah i was afraid of this BBT, i meant the capitalysts, not the people in US. I kinda feel bad for people who live there whos government is feckin them up real bad. Infact all the governments are feckin us all up real bad, along with them big corporations and what not.
Generaly what i meant about iRacing is taht i dont believe them, i just dont. When it comes out, and if infact will be all that good, i will be very sorry i wont be playing it, but it still has to come and show what it rly can do. All this hype around stuff is profit for only them, who develope it, and its free comercial. I bet they like us very much lol.
Generaly what i meant about iRacing is taht i dont believe them, i just dont. When it comes out, and if infact will be all that good, i will be very sorry i wont be playing it, but it still has to come and show what it rly can do. All this hype around stuff is profit for only them, who develope it, and its free comercial. I bet they like us very much lol.
For start, ill just quote soem of the content on iRacing.com. I just hope they wont sue me or charge me cash for that:
->FAQS
02. Is this a game?
No, iRacing.com is not a video game. It is a training tool for real-world racers and a platform for a new branch of motorsport — known as simracing — which is the sport of real-time, online racing.
-> PArtners
Market Opportunity
With the unparalleled accuracy and authenticity of its racing simulations, and its position of influence within the new and growing sport of simracing, iRacing.com's primary audience is the global motorsport market, including professional and amateur drivers, engineers and other industry professionals, as well as racing fans around the world. Within North America, that market includes an estimated 451,000 active participants with a median household income of $98,500 and well-established brand loyalty. But iRacing.com's reach extends well beyond the racing enthusiast and the confines of the North American continent.
As viewership for traditional, television-based entertainment continues to fragment and decline, the popularity of interactive, broadband-enabled entertainment is on the rise. Last year 1.4 million people spent $344 million for online gaming subscriptions, and Massively Multi-Player Online Games (MMOGs) have attracted an estimated 25 – 30 million participants worldwide. Sports Sims will soon replace the traditional passive TV sports audience experience, redefining what "sports entertainment" is at its core.
Importantly, the PC-gamer profile more closely resembles the motorsport demographic than it does the commonly held stereotypes. The average gamer is 33 years old, 44 percent are between 18 and 49, and 69 percent of American heads of households play computer and video games. Average household income is $71,400.
-> Company Info
iRacing.com's simulations are not video games. Thanks to proprietary technology, the iRacing.com simulations include unprecedented accuracy of track replication and vehicle-handling dynamics. With curbing, cracks, patches, and other trackside features recreated with precision measured in millimeters, and a physics engine and tire model that reproduce the feel of each particular car with absolute fidelity; the result is an experience so authentic that professional racers and experienced amateurs can hone their skills prior to on-track competition or testing.
This all sounds very interesting, at least to me. To me, it sounds like this is gonna be some real hard-core simulation of the racing experience. That it will include track temperature/grip varying, track warming up while racing, dust/grass/gravel throwing on the track if you fly out, thus reducing grip on that places, that it will simulate rain racing, with wind changing, air preasure changing, ..... Of course it will have track/car modeling like never before seen, we dont wanna forget that.
And it will simulate racing experience as no other. Maybe it will somehow simulate Gforce on my ass, so i will be able to see how HARD it rly is, not just how hard it rly is, as we can see in our current non simulations -> all just games. And offcourse iRacing is not something for all people. Its for households of yearly average income at least 71,400 $.
"Yea. Only they are worthy of such a product, thats why we shall charge them. Fook it, they got the cash! Why should we be left out of the huge online games market business? FFS, we're da sh1t, we be having laser mapped tracks, and RL cars most of them have never seen. Our product is gonna be worth so much, that they will pay us just to be able to try it out and see if they have what it takes to participate in simracing. We be big, eat most expensive caviar and drink the expensive coffe that some animal shits out first."
What i think of this, no thank you. Naturally most of this type of mercandise arrives form the US. And as i said somewhere b4, I secretly wish for someone to come around this silly little Earth and slaughter them capitalysts Conan style.
->FAQS
02. Is this a game?
No, iRacing.com is not a video game. It is a training tool for real-world racers and a platform for a new branch of motorsport — known as simracing — which is the sport of real-time, online racing.
-> PArtners
Market Opportunity
With the unparalleled accuracy and authenticity of its racing simulations, and its position of influence within the new and growing sport of simracing, iRacing.com's primary audience is the global motorsport market, including professional and amateur drivers, engineers and other industry professionals, as well as racing fans around the world. Within North America, that market includes an estimated 451,000 active participants with a median household income of $98,500 and well-established brand loyalty. But iRacing.com's reach extends well beyond the racing enthusiast and the confines of the North American continent.
As viewership for traditional, television-based entertainment continues to fragment and decline, the popularity of interactive, broadband-enabled entertainment is on the rise. Last year 1.4 million people spent $344 million for online gaming subscriptions, and Massively Multi-Player Online Games (MMOGs) have attracted an estimated 25 – 30 million participants worldwide. Sports Sims will soon replace the traditional passive TV sports audience experience, redefining what "sports entertainment" is at its core.
Importantly, the PC-gamer profile more closely resembles the motorsport demographic than it does the commonly held stereotypes. The average gamer is 33 years old, 44 percent are between 18 and 49, and 69 percent of American heads of households play computer and video games. Average household income is $71,400.
-> Company Info
iRacing.com's simulations are not video games. Thanks to proprietary technology, the iRacing.com simulations include unprecedented accuracy of track replication and vehicle-handling dynamics. With curbing, cracks, patches, and other trackside features recreated with precision measured in millimeters, and a physics engine and tire model that reproduce the feel of each particular car with absolute fidelity; the result is an experience so authentic that professional racers and experienced amateurs can hone their skills prior to on-track competition or testing.
This all sounds very interesting, at least to me. To me, it sounds like this is gonna be some real hard-core simulation of the racing experience. That it will include track temperature/grip varying, track warming up while racing, dust/grass/gravel throwing on the track if you fly out, thus reducing grip on that places, that it will simulate rain racing, with wind changing, air preasure changing, ..... Of course it will have track/car modeling like never before seen, we dont wanna forget that.
And it will simulate racing experience as no other. Maybe it will somehow simulate Gforce on my ass, so i will be able to see how HARD it rly is, not just how hard it rly is, as we can see in our current non simulations -> all just games. And offcourse iRacing is not something for all people. Its for households of yearly average income at least 71,400 $.
"Yea. Only they are worthy of such a product, thats why we shall charge them. Fook it, they got the cash! Why should we be left out of the huge online games market business? FFS, we're da sh1t, we be having laser mapped tracks, and RL cars most of them have never seen. Our product is gonna be worth so much, that they will pay us just to be able to try it out and see if they have what it takes to participate in simracing. We be big, eat most expensive caviar and drink the expensive coffe that some animal shits out first."
What i think of this, no thank you. Naturally most of this type of mercandise arrives form the US. And as i said somewhere b4, I secretly wish for someone to come around this silly little Earth and slaughter them capitalysts Conan style.
No i didnt mean the grids. I as out yesterday and got home very late and a bit drunk. And as i wanted to check on my Qually position to determine what pool i might be in all i got was blank site under qually tab. But its all good now so no worries
Hi!
I know its late in Europe, but idlike to seewhereim at lol. IE: cant see qually page on da site
sorry
I know its late in Europe, but idlike to seewhereim at lol. IE: cant see qually page on da site
sorryWell, if you plan to watch it with the misses id say u watch this alone:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/
This is for all of you irreversable fans ;>. Just beware of possibility of throwing up
And some others that might be interesting:
Mullholland Drive: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/
One Flew over the cockoos nest: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/
The Warlords: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0913968/
Himalaya: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210727/ -> if u cant sleep
Just whatever you do, dont watch Hercules in New York: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065832/
I appologise if i doubled somebodys ideas
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/
This is for all of you irreversable fans ;>. Just beware of possibility of throwing up
And some others that might be interesting:
Mullholland Drive: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/
One Flew over the cockoos nest: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/
The Warlords: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0913968/
Himalaya: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210727/ -> if u cant sleep
Just whatever you do, dont watch Hercules in New York: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065832/
I appologise if i doubled somebodys ideas
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Congarts Core, you got some fast and hardblodded racers there.
All things aside, you have to give the iRacing some credit for having the balls to put the pricing scheme as it is looking to be. Simracing world is not as big as the RPG one, and imo if they get around 40 000 ppl to get involved in there on a regular basis it is going to be a success for them. Afterall it is "meant" to be serious sim, and i cant imagine some 13 y old kids to have some real interest in it. But it all speculating, i am eager to see how it is going to be like, but at the back of my head something smells real bad. But kudos to them for having the balls.
Well to me is a question of what is offensive. Surely you will thikn wtf is he on about, but for instance, if somebody has "****" written on da plate, to me it is silly bcz it means its a **** in da car. To others, it may seem offensive and we would end up with a problem. Also, "a Bitch" has multiple meanings to it, one beeing a female dog, and the other is much more known. I say let them have on the plates whatever they want, if they have so little imagination but to put some "bad" words on let it be . But thats just me, plz dont get me wrong, to me it is irrelevant what they have on the plate and what not.
EDIT: lol, i didnt know this forum filters out bad words. the "****" is meant to be a "Cu*t"
, and the other is much more known. I say let them have on the plates whatever they want, if they have so little imagination but to put some "bad" words on let it be . But thats just me, plz dont get me wrong, to me it is irrelevant what they have on the plate and what not.EDIT: lol, i didnt know this forum filters out bad words. the "****" is meant to be a "Cu*t"
if its not too late i would like to join:
Driver name: [XFR]PowerSlave
BL1 GTI 904/14
Driver name: [XFR]PowerSlave
BL1 GTI 904/14
So what did we learn so far?
Although the physics eqautions used in this debate are not all that complicated, it is necesary to be using correct units. So for the temperature u have to be using Kelvins, for preassure you have to be using kPa, not Psi or any other, and for volume, you have to be using liter, not galons or whatever. Only then will those types of equations give you correct(ish) results.
Now without knowing the dynamic intyre temp rates, that the tires in lfs are prducing, we can't exactly calculate the preassure within the tyre at all times. And we would need to know the tyre expanding constant, which we do also not have, so any exact calculating of tyre preassure while driving can not be calculated. But it would be nice if scawen could give us intyre dynamic temp, just so we have soemthing more to look at while racing (i would love to have it).
OT: Now from thermal dynamics to governant dynamics: Scipy u no0bend, več si ionak prebrz, šta sad očeš i idealni grip atalltimes kalkulirati UPM
. UPM ->upizdumaterino
PS: Was a bit not necesary post, but just felt like writing something
Although the physics eqautions used in this debate are not all that complicated, it is necesary to be using correct units. So for the temperature u have to be using Kelvins, for preassure you have to be using kPa, not Psi or any other, and for volume, you have to be using liter, not galons or whatever. Only then will those types of equations give you correct(ish) results.
Now without knowing the dynamic intyre temp rates, that the tires in lfs are prducing, we can't exactly calculate the preassure within the tyre at all times. And we would need to know the tyre expanding constant, which we do also not have, so any exact calculating of tyre preassure while driving can not be calculated. But it would be nice if scawen could give us intyre dynamic temp, just so we have soemthing more to look at while racing (i would love to have it).
OT: Now from thermal dynamics to governant dynamics: Scipy u no0bend, več si ionak prebrz, šta sad očeš i idealni grip atalltimes kalkulirati UPM
. UPM ->upizdumaterinoPS: Was a bit not necesary post, but just felt like writing something
My Firewall blocked the site?
Damn, offcourse they need to charge it that much if they have a vice president in marketing lol. Imagine how many other vice/presidents they have, and how much they be pulling a month .
But seriously, i dont think i will be trying it out, not bcz it looks like a ripoff, but bcz i dont wanna spend that money on it and rather be drinkin with friends outside. Eevn if it is gonna be a World class top simracign motorsport.
What i fear is the shit is going to, from WoW, now to this, and some talks about pay per use Office tools, seriously i secretly wish for a dictator to be born pretty damn soon and slaughter the capitalists Conan style.
.But seriously, i dont think i will be trying it out, not bcz it looks like a ripoff, but bcz i dont wanna spend that money on it and rather be drinkin with friends outside. Eevn if it is gonna be a World class top simracign motorsport.
What i fear is the shit is going to, from WoW, now to this, and some talks about pay per use Office tools, seriously i secretly wish for a dictator to be born pretty damn soon and slaughter the capitalists Conan style.
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