MOMO Force has no optical sensors but normal pots.

nope. I start to think this are bad pots?

Yeah I re calibrated now pedals seems to be ok again but the steering is still same bad pretty much. I even restored windows now, changed USB and still get this in LFS. Only that this time only the wheel is bad but isnt dependent from the accelerator when pushed anymore. Also when moving the wheel in wodnwos an dDXtweak running. You can see its not moving for 1 but for up to 4 RAW values. MOMO Racing moved for 1.
And yeah no FF. I dont even use FF.

Last edited by Sawyer, Fri 12 May 2006, 13:55.

also let me add. Tested with Windows, rFactor and Nascar 2003. No problems here.

Just noticed another thing. When the X axis yerks the accelerator does to at the same time. from 255 to 252 RAW data. Both at the same time.

Quote from --==Gogo==-- :

If you want all your setting set to max. then you must set "disble trees, rubber and flags" to OFF.
Also you should set "simple Track" to OFF.

also where do you find this simple track setting?

I just recently changed my old MOMO Racing for a brand new out of the box MOMO Force (Red). Now all of a sudden I get wired wheel behavior in LFS. Like the wheel from the inside the car yerks left and right very fast. Not on all positions but its common.

Now I set the game in window mode and started DXtweak to monitor the RAW values and infact it jumps up to 20 points.

When I stop the car and just accelerate in neutral it starts to yerk 98% of all the time in any position.
Now I tested all this in windows to and there are absolute no noticeable problems whatsoever. All is stable even when I push the gas or brake. The X axis doesn't yerk around like in LFS.
FF is also not connected to power supply so this can cause vibrations. I also use headphones so nothing can really cause vibration to the table.

Any idea what this could be?

LFs is still set how it was for the MOMO Racing also. 270 turning..
I also believe the MOMO racing turns less then the momo force right?

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Cool and Quiet can be set as ON or OFF in bios but it will work only if you have installed the driver in windows for this and use some saving mode.

He might have it installed and you dont.Are you sure you have installed drivers for Cool and Quiet?

well its supposed to work automatically. To work with full speed on full load and only with less when the cpu doesnt reach 100%
I have this because my computer is always on and I used the drivers from the AMD page not the asus.

Ok just done a quick test and yeah its cool n quiet doing this fps jumps.
Stupid AMD they cant do anything right. In Nascar when I have this enabled I get like triple game speed and laggy menu. In LFS I didnt notice anything apart from this and since the effect wasnt so dramatic I didnt connect it to it.
Its time to move to Conroe

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Hi,
please try 1st to disable that cool&quiet feature.

Do you have anything overclocked in your system...GPU or CPU?
Whats your CPU and GPU temps during playing.

nothing clocked. Sooner underclocked .
Had no time to test today so will do tomorrow. So I take it that big fps jumps from 114 to 140 when standing still arent normal?

Quote from ElShotte :

Sawyer, think of it this way, you turn it 30 degrees on a wheel does 200, its like turning it 135 on a wheel that does 900 degrees man.

That would mean I have to turn it 135 to get the same effect as with the momo. But I dont want to turn it that much. Dont wanna hurt my back

Also the FPS is very jumpy. I can stand on the brake and observe it how it jumps from 111 do 143 the whole time. Not that it has any noticeable effect its just wired if you car isnt moving and nothing is moving around and it still has this big kind of jumps eh?

I'm getting some wired slow downs from time to time fully random. Just had one today on a demo server not that it has anything to do with it.

I drive then suddenly my game starts like stuttering and slowing down for half a lap until end. Now the driver who was leading did come almost to a full stop direct infront of me on the Blackwood straight so I guess he had the same thing.
Anybody else noticed anything like this? Think I had it 2 times since I bought the game or maybe 3 times but not more than that.

AMD 3500+ (cool n quiet enabled)
1Gb memory
Asus SLI a8n
Asus 6600GT

I dont even turn the wheel that much as F1 drivers in really tight corners. Since coming from Nascar I use to turn it there not much more then 30 degrees lol. When I turn it 90 on a road track its already alot for me.
Honestly there are no tracks where i use that much turning maybe AS Club in the last corner but thats the max.
so a 900 degrees wheel wont do any good for me...

yeah it does work. Either this one or the MOMO. I really dont miss the 900 turning on my MOMO and even ordered a Red momo yesterday also instead of the 900 turning one. I like the momos because they look like real wheels and dont have the playstaion thing controllers build in and I dont even use the full turning on this one

btw. does the PRO really turn for 900? As I read somewhere that it only uses driver optimization to reach that turning so not sure which is now true. Hardware turning 2 times around or not?

Last edited by Sawyer, Thu 4 May 2006, 06:04.

Does joining demo servers count towards your stats?
Also can the demo users auto download your skins and see them?

I also will never understand why you guys dont buy a freaking wheel if you are able to fully use it. Even the small 10 bucks wheel which sits on your knees is better then keyboard . And in the states you can get a MOMO I hear for 99$. Here you still have to pay a good 150-170$ for one. illepall

But it has a psychological attribute on your soul.

Quote from Becky Rose :

I've only once seen a wrecker in S2, by that I mean somebody who went the wrong way, placed their car across the track on blind exits, swerved into poeple as they passed and slammed into the back of people. Very poor behaviour, but the irony is the wrecker I saw was on So Classic/Fox and it took us half a dozen races to realise what he was up too !

So did he get a LFS ban. Because I dont understand why they dont kill his license if he keeps doing it and you can prove it with a replay.

Quote from AtomAnt :

What Part of that didn't you understand?

Start with the title lol.

Honestly I think he was talking about some WR's which he no longer holds because of biggie lol.
Then he probably asks for a time and place to beat biggie up face to face.
However check his gloves before the fight he may have hidden steel rings in them.

Quote from Matrixi :

Some people aren't fortunate enough to have such parents. I don't know how long Kris-Is-Awesome has been trying to buy a license, but considering the cost of the license I don't think it would take very much work to earn enough money to buy S2.

So they come to offical forums and beg for it? Do you see this happening on anyother game forum like EA? Don't think so.
Its simple if you cant pay for it you cant own it just like in real life as people already stated.
I wish I had a ferrari. Ohwell anybody selling one cheap like 10.000 euros?

So if I give them setups with high wings they will know what to do?

Quote from BWX232 :

Yes and hamburgers and beer rain from the sky!

http://gigaom.com/2005/09/30/g ... -san-francisco-wifi-plans

Here it is now tell me where hamburgers are free. I may give it a visit soon

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Actually I tried rFactor sometime ago and the netcode wasnt much impressive to me.Maybe it has changed but the cars didnt look like really moving on the ground.

well yeah ok. This is because the suspension isnt moving at all.
But the movement is smooth not warpy and also the starts are normal.
I was racing on a server with 400 ping and was impressed how smooth all looks.

Yeah but I still think its looking cool

btw. Can anybody recall the track Enna from GTR? Doesnt it have some solid barricades in the first series of corners where you can end your race easy? Arent this tyre walls to? I would imagine they would fly in real life also if hit with such speed.

Ah that could explain why all my AIs now drive wide into sand.

But I think the Sauber is the smartest off all the AIs even though its the youngest. It can drive from lap 1 till last lap and repeat it in the next race. Maybe it understands the tyre temp and wear better then others.