Quote from Swiss-Spirit :

Hopefully there.

Btw: I don't even know how much laps I have done at KY1 now, the sign-up tracker hasn't been updated, and I've done much more than 6 laps...

I guess I must be over 150 surely.

click on the little clock under your name...........

teamName: Adenoids Racing
number: 00
car: FZR
drivers:
JackdaMaster, Jack Sedgwick, United Kingdom
SCA-F1, Simon Cattell, United Kingdom
EsCoRt RaLLy, Christian Andersson, Sweden
seb66, Sebastian Hutchinson, United Kingdom

00 Adenoids Racing;Jack Sedgwick, Simon Cattell, Christian Andersson, Sebastian Hutchinson

Last edited by boothy, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 22:33. Reason : prost's nose

LFS Username: SCA-F1
First and Last Name: Simon Cattell
Country Code: GBR
Desired Car Number: 18
Team Affiliation: ineX Racing
Gender: Male

Session of Incident: Race
Lap of incident: Lap 11
Timecode of incident (may either be qualifying time remaining, race time, or mpr time): 18.30.00 mpr time
Your car Number: 00
Other Car(s) Involved: 08
Brief description of incident: #08 CoRe make a fruitless divebomb on #00 Adenoids in the tight hairpin in S2, perhaps revenge for a minor contact made in the previous corner and earlier in the race.

teamName: Adenoids Racing
number: 00
car: FZR
drivers:
JackdaMaster, Jack Sedgwick, United Kingdom
Gav190, Gavin Mason, United Kingdom
SCA-F1, Simon Cattell, United Kingdom

Quote from Drifters Only :

I'd say get rid of SO6, race either SO4 or SO4r. Add KY2/r and AS4. Remove ky1r and we're done!

I'm really thinking about participating. Will be interesting since this will be my first Single Seater league. I've only driven GT2/GT3 now so yea... Will be a challenge!

Good! Nice to see some new interest, especially from drivers new to single seaters, yet have shown potential in other cars, really hope you enjoy this challenge. :P LFSCART is probably one of the best leagues on LFS these days, so I'm sure you will.

About the calendar: agreed on implementing SO4, or preferably SO4R. SO6 is just too short, and providing there is no layout, there is "that" chicane, which is farcical, some see it is a challenge though, so again we're back to preference. :P But I'm wholly against removing KY3b and AS7, both are awesome tracks, especially for this car IMO. AS4/AS5 are a bit long-winded, which wouldn't be too bad in comparison to a track with 1:10.00~ lap times or lower, but they are used way too often in leagues anyway. KY2/r isn't bad, but it's like comparing Ralf to Michael Schumacher up against KY3 w/ boothy chicane; which offered some fantastic racing last season, possibly even better than Round 1 - which ironically was at KY2, and whilst the track is popular, it's not used anywhere near as much as AS4/AS5.

Another thing that bothers me is the ovals. With 40% of the season being oval, it seems a bit much to me, with three over an eight race season, especially as we only have one configuration anyway. Over the whole season, it isn't that appealling, and although we had 4 last season, one was a car park layout completely not designed for those cars, and the season was actually longer anyway, a shorter season is probably best for both worlds, even if this league is already highly motivating, unlike others. But, we'll see. Either way, oval or non-oval, SO6 or not, it should be a great season, and each race offers their own challenge, looking forward to it!

Last edited by SCA-F1, Tue 1 Feb 2011, 16:52.

LFS Licence Name: SCA-F1
Real Name: Simon Cattell
Preferred Car Number: 18
Team Name: ineX Racing

Grats winners today.

Sorry Reno for that move in final race, I'm not sure what I was doing, hope you didn't lose too much from that. Also, sorry to those who I hit with my lag, I retired as soon as I found out, but I'm not entirely convinced that this league will be successful when it comes back, I'm disappointed for that.

#00 Adenoids Racing FZR

Name : Simon Cattell
LFS Username : SCA-F1
Number : 18

teamName: Adenoids Racing
number: 00
car: XRR
drivers:
JackDaMaster, Jack Sedgwick, England
bash0r, Marius Golombeck, Germany
SCA-F1, Simon Cattell, England
Seb66, Sebastian Hutchinson, Wales

jabba

Amazing, great work Dennis!

Your REAL name: Simon Cattell
Your LFS licence name: SCA-F1
Requested car number : 69
Your Country : United Kingdom
Your Team : Sonicrealms Racing 2

Last edited by SCA-F1, Sun 17 Oct 2010, 18:05.

Well, ofc, it's his opinion, and he's entitled to one, just not really a useful opinion if the only contribution is: "nothing wrong with old restrictions" or "still prefer old restrictions".

Also, I didn't see him testing the new restrictions or contributing at any point. :/

Quote from cargame.nl :

That you must feel pretty lonely if you have such an opinion about nearly 10.000 different racers who scored at least a point. To be in the top 2.000 you need to have more than 100 points. Do you have any idea how many people we are talking about here and how many people have some or a lot of endurance race experience already? That you feel to good to join is your own personal thing.

For your information, the main objective of endurance racing is to keep the car on track, don't get serious damage, doing pit stops right...

People who race on our servers are trained to do all of the above. Hell, even a lot of league racers participate in every day pick up racing.

Being fast in endurance racing is one of the last things to care about. But, any child can see that the FXR is one or two seconds slower on KY3B and if this is a bad track then why choose this track to do the test anyway. (facepalm).

What more do I think? Well I might better be wise to not write that down here.

Only thing I wonder is why this is called Amateur League if you can't handle opinions of amateurs.

On the endurance front, I partly agree. However, to suggest pace is a small factor in endurance racing is ridiculous, simply keeping the car on the track isn't enough, and it's not what endurance racing is about, and that is not the way to learn IMO. Ofc, the league encourages clean, disciplined racing, but this is simply a build-up to the higher leagues on LFS. If anything, the pace should be the key factor a driver has, and doing endurance races like this can teach them the lessons of keeping the car on track, when to push, e.t.c.

Besides, just because KY3B doesn't suit the FXR doesn't mean it is useless information, that way, we could figure at least how much the FXR suffers out on the XRR/FZR proving grounds, however, I would like to see a test race at South City or Fern Bay or something, but that doesn't look like it will happen. FXR however must be a slower car (only very slightly, though) it's very easy to be substantially consistent with it, it's good in windy conditions, good in gravel traps, very easy to drive, and has the 4WD option, which makes it supreme in traction zones, and, as I said earlier, is very easy to go different ways in the setup with it to suit someone's driving style.

As long as it's losing 1-1.5s a lap at KY3B (which is what I predict it will do at it's limits, not to mention the fact that KY3 is a VERY long track) then it should be (with the new restrictions) the quickest car at South City and Fern Bay, as demonstrated by Gebauer and Gehammer last season respectively with the old restrictions. At tracks like this, the XRR simply cannot compete, the turbo lag costs the car substantially, and at Fern Bay at least, it's high centre of gravity means it's very vulnerable to flipping, or two-wheeling at least, plus, XRR reacts badly to damage, something which will be very common at South City, wall taps will not be uncommon.

So, that means that FZR will be it's only challenger at the tight, twisty tracks of South City and Fern Bay, but, due to the fact it's the only car of the three that doesn't have a turbo, it's power is the one that has suffered most with the new restrictions, which will make the car a fundamentally slightly slower package, whereas FXR managed to comfortably beat the FZR which had numerous fast drivers in last season.

Overall, if you think FXR is suffering too much, when the proposed new restrictions actually aim to IMPROVE itself and the XRR over the dominant FZR last season, then you're just asking too much IMO, FXR would destroy with 23%, and due to it's traits (as discussed above) then IT would be the dominant package, and that should not be the case.

Quote from z-ro 8 :

the only point that statement made was that the two CoRe drivers that were 3 and 4, and were "catching the leaders until they decided to race each other" aren't worthy FZR drivers.

Sounds like an insult to me, which is not necessary. Don't you think? You do like to give your opinion quite often....

No, not at all. I fully respect that this is an amateur league, that is the whole point with the credentials of the league. However, what I'm saying is that the balancing should be based on the cars at their limits, rather than left in the hands of drivers who didn't bother to practice, and who are perhaps not totally at ease with the GT2's to drive it on the limit. That way, we're able to understand the full potential of the cars with these restrictions, and isn't that a good thing? Otherwise, FXR would end up having an even WORSE restriction, as in the hands of a "less capable driver" (sorry for my poor choice of vocab) it will surely set better lap times than it would in an XRR or FZR? Drivers preferences tend to matter less the higher up the scale you go, and that is important in determining a neutral, fair and balanced selection.

That way, we can get down to business in the real thing, that truly matters, and have a great season of GTAL! Whether that is with the old or new restrictions, is something that is up to the admins to decide. Whatever the result, we must respect their decision, some people have actually tried to contribute data to balancing the cars fairly, and this is what will decide the end choice of the NDR admins.

Quote from cargame.nl :

Well if you know it all, show me a 2.21 lap then with less fuel, r3r2 and the same track layout. Nobody did a 2.21 or even a 2.22 so it still all is theoretical.

Good luck getting an FXR to do 2:21 at possibly it's worst track on the calendar.. :S

That's the whole point, FXR WILL be around a second per lap slower than the other two at this track, the characteristics of this circuit completely do not suit the FXR, if you tried to match the FXR with the FZR & XRR at a track like this, every team would choose the car for its performance, and the fact that it's by far the easiest to drive, and the 4WD means you can go many different ways in the setup with it, whilst XRR/FZR are fairly limited.

Whilst this is an amateur league, you'll still try to pick the car that suits and/or is best for you and your team, that's normal.

Last edited by SCA-F1, Sun 3 Oct 2010, 11:58.

Well, it's good that rockclan has apologised for what he did, but the levels of his "outrage" were totally unjustified and must go punished, based on what has happened in the past with other forum scenarios, it would be totally unfair and hypocritical for him not to be banned for a certain time, not only for the good of other people for his comment, but for himself, as there is more to life than publicising yourself on LFS Forum, this is meant as a game, to be fun, and competitive, and things just went too far, you can't just switch yourself off from using internet either, it takes a while to get back into the real world again, easier said than done that.

It's also not the first time his actions have come into question, especially regarding being 'drunk' on the forums, but whatever, the thread has indeed filled it's purpose, and egos have been publicised to the whole forum, yippie.

If FZR had a capable driver, it would've destroyed the XRR's laptimes, I'm sure of it. I was consistently running half a second a lap quicker than XRR, not only at start, when FZR had more fuel onboard, but also at the end, when XRR had better tyres. That really surprised me tbh, but, whether the set used for XRR wasn't efficient enough, or the restriction changes have done **** all to slow down FZR is yet to be known; AS4R will prove that I guess.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

FXR would b much better at 23% :/ I couldnt even keep up with FZR's in straight

Just don't even bother, your information is useless to "us".

Anyway, you FXR guys, wait until you get to FE4, SO4R, and BL1, you'll soon realise the FXR strengths IMO.

Quote from SCA-F1 :

Yay, meh won a title!

Quote from Feuerdrache :

Thanks for the final results.

The Owner's championship seems wrong to me though.

Quote from dekojester :

Fixed :| Makes Car 11, Tiger Express Motorsports the Owner's Champion.

:sadbanana

Yay, meh won a title!

Thanks for the great season guys, and well done Sascha on the title, although it was quite easy. Hope to see you all next time.

Quote from PMD9409 :

I didn't want to go the GT1 route and use ballast as people always complain about that. We already use intake restriction in the GT2, so why not try and correct it? It's not like it is some big change, its 1% per car, which is only 7-10hp.

It's not like I want the change. People asked if GT2s could be balanced, and said that FZR had an advantage, and that FXR was too slow eventhough its easier. I found a way to keep the restrictions almost identical but boost the FXR and XRR versus the FZR.

It's funny when you see those people complain about the restrictions, and then when you try and help them out by finding a solution they just sit back and hide. They don't test, or put any input in, they just wait and wait until something happens. Sooner or later it won't go their way and then they will complain again.

From being in the server however, I've seen more positive responses from people that have tested than negative responses. All the negatives seem to be people on here that haven't tested and just "think" that the old restrictions were better.

Qft.

*Even though I wish the GT2's would be quicker but meh, 7~ hp less means nothing.

then you're doing it wrong son

jabba

I thought you were banned?