I don't think teams are happening. It would probably over-complicate things, and it's not really within the scope of the Beginner's Cup to introduce people to team racing.

I see your point about splitting the grid into 2 races, in that you may lose control over your position in the championship (e.g. drivers A and B, last race, A is one point ahead, A qualifies P1 and B in P2, they get put into seperate races, B can do nothing about A winning his race and therefore the cup because he isn't given the opportunity to beat A on track. With 37 registered applicants, I'd say it was unlikely more than 32 will ever turn up in one go, but if they do, what else can we do?

Let her see this forum and all the posts on it, talk to her and try to get her to understand what you want to do. Many parents are suspicious of the internet and what their kids might do, if you sit her down and say "look, this is what we're organising, it's completely innocent and just some fun" it might help?

And the AutoX layout please!!

Can we have a change from South City Long, it's been a while now. Ta.

A thought:- Can we have a few AI cars allowed on the server, so that if you're there on your own you can at least race against some bots until others join? I often go in when its empty and don't stick around very long because its boring lapping on your own.

Last edited by TomMK, Sat 19 Jan 2008, 21:18.

Quick bump for 2 reasons;

1. remind everyone this is happening the weekend after next.
   
2. anyone fancy a run this Saturday/Sunday evening?

Quote from J@tko :

That is true. Subsequent series will have less organising for me to do. How about we have it twice a year, once now and another in the start of the autumn?

You can run it as often as you like!!

I guess it depends how the first one goes really, doesn't it.

hmmm

Well, you've done the hard work already for the first series by sorting the calendar, server, applications process and rules. The subsequent series could almost run themselves, no? Dekojester would still act as race control I hope, but aside from that, whatever decisions you make for this series would just carry over. Thoughts?

Quote from J@tko :

It'll be an annual event, held each Feb/March time. There'll be another New Dimension Racing Event at the end of the summer, watch out for that.

WHAT! ANNUAL! I can't wait that long!

In all seriousness, given the interest you've had, this thing should be regular, and running most of the time. What do you think?

Quote from KrazyMitch :

I Probably wont be able to get S2 for a good month or so. So I wont be able to join you guys any time soon.:ashamed:

J@kto's Beginner Cup idea has really taken off, so I'm certain it will be run again after the "inaugural" cup in February and March this year. Hang around in the beginner cup forum, keep up to date with how it's going, and make sure you get S2 in time for the next one

Quote from Dalek0220 :

I am working on a Silverstone layout, feel free to edit it when I release it.

Make sure you get the maggots-becketts-chapel complex right - that will be amazing in the MRT .

Quote from Dalek0220 :

Sorry for d/posting, but I would like to know if you got permission to do that? I made the layout for racing purposes.

44 seconds implies the Sam Speedway layout. I think pole will be around a 42 second lap. I doubt we will have time trials, so it will be a race as usual.

yeh - you suck J@tko

Honestly, none of it is rubbish, it's a great layout. If this were not a Beginner Cup I would say leave it as it is, but even 1/2 an hour on it last night showed up its (or rather, our ) flaws.

Last edited by TomMK, Mon 14 Jan 2008, 10:34. Reason : spelling

"pandemonium" springs to mind!

I think turns 1 and 2 (left-right chicane) will cause incidents as there is not room to get 2 cars through there at speed (i.e. Lap 1). This is a shame because I like this chicane, but its out of place as the first corner of a beginner race . I would suggest a left kink at full speed, followed by a double-apex right-hander, emcompassing turn 3. It would provide a great overtaking opportunity that isn't there now. See attachment.

I think turns 3 and 4 (right handers) are great, particularly the exit of 4 where the grass cuts in, nice touch.

Turns 5 and 6 (right-left hairpins) are controversial, as they are tight, but only the exit of turn 6 is a problem, as people will get on the power too early, hit the wall, and block everyone behind them. Drivers must be able to duck inside someone who hits the wall here, and they can't as it's so tight.

Tyre barrier on left of track about 100 metres after turn 6 needs to go (see above).

Turns 7-8-9-10 are epic in my opinion. They are a great, flowing sequence. I'd like these to stay as they are. Turn 7 is the best overtaking place currently.

Edit: I've just been looking at it from overhead and I can totally see the Melbourne influence in it!!

Last edited by TomMK, Mon 14 Jan 2008, 00:50.

I think the barrier across the track after the 2 hairpins and before the fast right hander should be removed. The right after it represents the best overtaking place on the circuit, but you cant get alongside until after that barrier. :rally_dri

Since this is tomorrow I thought it needed bumping.

I'll be there around 7pm GMT hopefully.

Quote from dekojester :

Sucking up (or what is percieved as) will not help in any investigations into your behaviour during an event.

Ah well, I tried

Quote from Stan :

Surely I am not such bad company that I deserved a 'frownie'!

I'm on a high 1:56 with a HUGE repair bill!

I didn't mean it quite like that!!

I really struggle with car setups. If I change anything at all i get less grip!

what are people getting on this final layout? - im on a 1:54:0 so far this evening, need to look at setup next. Only Stan for company Get on DR Server 1 guys

Quote from J@tko :

(check your 'empty' filter is not set to 'no')

Being the noob (sorry, beginner) that I am, I failed to spot that one. Found it .

Please can we leave DR Server 1 open for practice permenantly while race meetings are not on?

It would be nice to have somewhere to meet online without any organisation. What say you?

Does anyone else just love the race director posts?!

Fair play . It wasn't a critisism, just some food for thought. There's every chance I'm underestimating the drivers here and it will all go swimmingly. I didn't want you to overcomplicate things for yourselves unnecessarily, thats all.

I may be a lone voice here, but I think it's worth airing this and seeing what the response is...

I think the Safety Car idea is a mistake. I know the organisers won't agree with this, but I think that when it comes to us beginners, it'll end up more like a sheep dog trying in vain to herd his unruly sheep around, rather than the polished routine we see in F1 or other professional racing.

Further, I cannot see any circumstance that would need a safety car, as the point of the safety car is to minimise danger to those involved in an incident that will take more than 1 lap to recover from. There is no danger in a virtual race, and no marshals working to recover vehicles.

As long as everyone knows the rules concerning pitting to fix damage, we should get by without safety cars.

Bring it on

I'm still listed at #26, so I'm taking a place off one of the reserves. I'm definitely out, so someone else should take my place. Ta.

Quote from J@tko :

And if you say I will delete your post and dq you from the series. And that's a warning to all of you.

I won't say . I'm not in the series any more though.

I know what the prize is