Quote from giannhsgr1 :

(two gravity force will produce two anti gravity forces forcing the object to speed up like hell until they reacy the time limit)

It is not two gravitiy forces. Gravitiy is what pulls you towards the mass centre of earth, with 9.81 m/s² at sealevel.
For ease of use it has been know as 1 G.


So if there is a lateral force pulling with 5 G, it means nothing more but 5 * 9.81 m/s². It is caused by fictitous force rather than gravity.

Quote from amp88 :

We're arguing the different definitions of the word interpretation.

You're right. My view was one sided. Sorry for the harsh comment.
I was seeing an interpretation of a rule more as a type of bending the rule.
Imho things that are not covered by rule (e.g. where to put the tyres) are freedom of design and not a sign of a bad formed rule.

Quote from amp88 :

If the rules just say "your car must have 4 tyres" then there are multiple interpretations of that. You could put two at the front and two at the back or three at the front and one at the back etc. Those are different interpretations of the same rule. As BreadC points out there were different interpretations last year of the rules concerning the diffuser.

The rule doesn't say where the tyres have to be, this not part of the rule.
It just says 4 tyres.
And the one and only intepretation of that is put 4 tyres on that car everything else is up to you.

There is no rule that covers every aspect of a design as it would make no sense. So even if a rule has only one interpretation, there are most probably different results in design.

Quote from amp88 :

Disagree. If there was only one interpretation every car would look identical given the same rules (which we know is not the case).

Woot ???
So If I give a rule every car has to have 4 tires (which resolves to clearly one interpretation), would than every car look the same ?

One of the most stupid comments I ever read.

Quote from bunder9999 :

n eventually changing from hidden tables to div's, just not right now.

Don't use divs just cause someone says tables are not state of the art.
With divs you will run in much problems when it comes to browser compatibility and it will take a lot more time to sort such things out.

It is better to use a simple layout for development and seperate it from the logics via template engine (e.g. smarty).

So someone else can care for a fancy layout, while you do the vital things.

This way ?!

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

It's completely relevant, at least in theory, in a high bank oval where you could achieve a vector sufficient to black you out. At 9Gs, which is the absurd figure I commented on, even a full lateral acceleration can take you out since having even half of your brain starving for oxygen isn't exactly good for you either last time I heard.

Well yeah I related the direction g-force according to the car not the track.
I hope you didn't get me wrong there. So high banked ovals would produce high vertical forces.

Tbh. I have no idea of the influences of lateral forces on the brain.
I thought so ppl would rather loose their head before going blackout on lateral g-forces.
If that isn't the case they could a least use half of the brain together with the corresponding eye.

Quote from marsaz :

People can tolerate much higher lateral G forces than vertical ones. I guess that's mainly because of blood getting out of or in your head.

Right, thats what I meant.
For the discussion about blackouts on ovals the lateral forces are not relevant.
So point is not the add vertical and lateral Gs.

Question is how long ppl can withstand 5 Gs.

Relevant for the state of blackout are only the Gs pulling downwards -> sucking the blood out of the head.

As stated in the report high banking and high speed are the causes.

Gs pulling sideways have afaik no effects on blackouts.

Stunt pilots are able the counter high G-forces by tense up but only for a short amount of time.

The linker tries to link against pthreads, a threading library. (who would have guessed )

It should not be shipped with the project itself, but you can install it from cygwin setup (libs section).

If it is the wrong version (hence gc2 corresponds to gcc 2.9.x and cygwin comes with gcc 4.x ), you would need to adjust the makefile to reflect the installed version.

Quote from Dygear :

As I've allocated some memory, don't I also have to free it? Or is that only for memset / alloc calls, not definitions like this (I hope that's handled by the compiler for assigning and freeing memory in this fashion, or I just leaked some memory.)

If you allocate memory on the heap you need to free it afterwards.


For the buffer problem it would be safe to allocate the desired buffer size,
and strncpy to fill the buffer.

In general you should stick to stl c++ container classes they have bullet proof memory management integrated.

Edit: Didn't see you were already using vsnprintf.

Last edited by yankman, Sat 6 Feb 2010, 17:55. Reason : Lazy reading

I am not sure if I fully understand, what you want to do.
But variable argument lists are handled in the va_* functions in stdarg.h.

Look here http://www.cplusplus.com/refer ... library/cstdarg/va_start/

Last edited by yankman, Fri 5 Feb 2010, 11:27.

U need to setup a shoutcast/icecast server first, but be sure there is enough bandwith available.
Second use winamp with shoutcast plugin to stream mp3 data to the server (DJ).

Or just read here:
http://www.shoutcast.com/

Quote from yeager :

So i'm not mad, the current effects of slipstreaming are not really noticeable?

If you run a few laps on the oval (e.g.FZR,BF1), you will notice the effects.
There is slipstreaming as well as losing grip, and it not just a little effect.

Strange is that even with very low wing settings the effect doesn't seem to change.

Well I liked the idea ... maybe it can spread the word of LFS a bit more, if we get into higher rankings.

I use GPU version as well as CPU. The GPU is unbelievable fast compared to cpu. So one day there is no result from cpu and next day there is +4. Maybe thats the "jumpstart"

I was really hoping for more people participating.
Well I will at least participate as long as it is cold in germany and the exhaust
air keeps my foot warm .

I've started such a project years ago for the LFSCAR series.

It is possible to setup a pacecar with the ai, but it cannot run server side.
So a race admin or something like that has to run the app.

It works the following way.

-detect race_start -> ai joins race with predefined skin, setup and car
-grid is reordered to move pace car in front
-the setup limits the top speed of the car by gearing
-fuel is limited so the pace car will join the pits after a certain amount of laps -> send pacecar to spectate


Thats basically it, you could even let it join the race in case of a fcy.

My tries never left early testing stage but it was enough for a proof of concept.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Whilst Porsche call it a GT, it clearly isn't a GT car. Yes, the meaning of GT has changed - look at how many rubbish hatchbacks are called GT cars (with injection! Hence GTi). But that doesn't actually change what a Grand Tourer is. And that is what Mercedes make.

Well thats not what I meant.
Nowaday cars labeled GT are in general no Grand Tourer.
There are close to race cars actually.
In that sense Mercedes doesn't build GT cars.

Of course you will claim "but I says Grand Tourer" but you should look what the manufacturer tries to imply when using GT label.
Thats the meaning.

I have no problem with your opinion, but I don't like the way you express it.

Quote from tristancliffe :

GT stands for Grand Touring. TOURING. Driving long distances (possibly quickly ) with ease. Comfortable. Torquey. Quiet (when cruising). Pretty much the exact opposite of a sports car, which are generally harsher, noiser (well, less sound deadening), and tend to go for a narrower powerband and more revs.

The meaing of GT has clearly changed over time.
I guess there is a big difference between your point of view and the car manufactures.
But of course you're the guy with the ultimate knowledge regarding cars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Carrera_GT
(btw. have a look at the facts sheet to the right)

Last edited by yankman, Thu 7 Jan 2010, 07:31.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Do Mercedes make sports cars? They make touring cars, and grand touring cars, they make convertibles, and they make normal everyday saloon cars. But I can't think of a sports car they make (at least not in the sub £150,000 bracket).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Y1LS5G84c

And why should a GT Car not considered Sports car ?

Well not to hard after all.

There are already audio streaming applications, like Shoutcast or Icecast, which could serve as radiostation.
All you need would be control an external audioplayer (e.g. winamp) via insim or implement a simple audioplayer.

Last edited by yankman, Sun 6 Dec 2009, 11:28.

Massa's Kart event,
anoying commentary but nice racing action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phd2Q-CKbmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsqrgKCQolw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcdZLHOcCyY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhiemWgEl5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Qy0LXAPRw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lorE1slGry4

I am pretty sure Nick Heidfeld stays with Sauber, if they are allowed to start.

Use the reset to defaults button on the router. After this it should be reachable via http://192.168.1.254.
Also the routers DHCP-Server should be running, so you do need to put your pc be hand in the routers subnet, simply change your pc's tcp/ip setup to automatic.

Quote from Trekkerfahrer :

0,0066845813446703832938943033997781 AU (Astronomical Units) he drove, thats 0.0022% distance from sun to pluto

EDIT: corrected

AU is the distance between sun and earth.

Anyway, it is sad to see so many ppl to complain about reaching this milestone.

Well I am pretty sure Failure never had the goal to drive 1000000 km,
but it very simply shows a dedication to lfs, that many of you are missing.
Of course a lot was driven at the oval with fast cars but it is not about the oval, it is about the game.

This thread was not a poll and no one was asking for your opinion.
It is these flaming posts that give this forum a bad taste in general.
Rather than flaming, you should be happy that there are ppl with such a love to the game.

So congrats Fail.

PS: I wonder if there will be ever a second player to reach 1000000km.

If you look for something better than bose, not in terms of max db, look here.
Even the smaller ones sound very good .... of course paired with the right amplifier.

If often wonder why ppl recommend bose.
It is rather stupid to measure quality of sound systems in db.