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My Dad has a 1.4 Corsa (2004 one) and he says it's good fun to chuck about... tbh just get a bloody cheap car and don't chav it up..
Quote from tristancliffe :Get something cheap, that is cheap to insure. It doesn't matter what it is. You will still love it, as it'll be wheels and freedom.

Use the money you save on tax and insurance to go on track days with rented cars on the day (like a driving experience sort of thing, but with a bit more track time - I'm sure they exist), go on a decent driver training scheme (pass plus is a waste of time, but might help the insurance for some reason, but I meant a track tuition thing or a day on a skidpan). Learn to use the car you've got (but not stupidly whilst on the public highway).

You will end up a better driver, and you'll be able to afford a decent car quicker than if you buy a van and pimp it so everyone laughs at you at a cost of £££££

Put it this way - would you rather have a shit, modded car for 5 years and no driving ability, or a shit, standard car for 2 years, some driving skill (the training) and then a car that might not get you laughed at.

Of course, if you are trying to pull 12 year old girls then a modded car is just what you need. Vans are probably good down to 10 years old.



A lot slower. A 1000 Mini is not a quick car. Sure, you'll never have to brake for corners, but it'll take a week to get up to speed. But it will be more fun than a Corsa ever would be, even if you spend £10k on the Corsa.

I don't seem to be into heavy modifying no more, yeah I may do it one day but thats part of growing up and doing stupid things lol.

What car would you suggest that would be cheap to insure? I have heard Nova's can be a good laugh with the right suspension on and a little modifying like the manifold. The only thing is, there pointed towards boy racers so much it puts me off getting one lol.
Get a Proton. Go on. Nice little Satria or a Wira if you want more space :P

On a serious note - Volvo 460. Pimpwagon, and cheaper to insure than my car somehow.

Quote from Jakg :Get a Proton. Go on. Nice little Satria or a Wira if you want more space :P

On a serious note - Volvo 460. Pimpwagon, and cheaper to insure than my car somehow.


How much is yours to insure a year? I would never own a Proton :L

Never thought of a Volvo (Ovlov).

What about a 1.2 Stripped out Corsa B.
Quote from sam93 :How much is yours to insure a year? I would never own a Proton :L

Never thought of a Volvo (Ovlov).

What about a 1.2 Stripped out Corsa B.

My car is group 11 and costs a ****ing shitload to insure (£2k for this year).

Proton's get a bad rap - the interior is awful but they aren't THAT bad to drive. Wouldn't recommend one due to the cost of insurance though...
Quote from Jakg :My car is group 11 and costs a ****ing shitload to insure (£2k for this year).

Proton's get a bad rap - the interior is awful but they aren't THAT bad to drive. Wouldn't recommend one due to the cost of insurance though...

£2k a year how the fak do you manage to pay that lol.

Protons are horrible in my opinion. But, everyone to their own.
I didn't. It was £1k with a provisional, and then when I passed they wanted an extra £1k - My Dad paid both.

It's £1k next year which I can just about afford to do.

Whats wrong with Protons? (serious question!)

They are based of old Mitsubishi's (mine is an early lancer) which means they are a bit thirsty and unrefined, but not that bad. Compared to my friends cars mine (306 and a Fiesta) mine is the nicest one to drive and my friends all think the same. My car is stupidly designed though - having to take the door cards out to get to speakers is perhaps the worst bit.
Quote from Jakg :Whats wrong with Protons? (serious question!)

I just don't like them lol.
Quote from sam93 :How much is yours to insure a year? I would never own a Proton :L

Never thought of a Volvo (Ovlov).

What about a 1.2 Stripped out Corsa B.

I would look out for a Corsa B sport, as this model came with the 1.4 16 valve engine, plus as they are still only a relitively small engined car, the insurance isnt too bad.

A friend of mine had one and it was fairly quick as standard, and after he had fitted a performance exhaust system and an induction kit it would leave most other cars of its size for dead, Fiesta XR2's, saxo's, 106's, Nova's, bye bye!

I also distinctly remember a guy who ended up selling his chavved up nova 1.6 GSi out of shame because my mate beat him in a standard looking 1.4 corsa!

The only thing is that they do seem to be getting rarer now.
Quote from sam93 :I just don't like them lol.

Meh...






I'd still say Volvo 460 if you can afford to insure it. If I take a look at what my friends have got it's the only thing i'd swap mine for tbh.
I wouldn't mind a stripped out Corsa B. Pointless even doing subtle mods to the exterior on your first car. Your a most likely to at least bump it into something, you make your first mistakes in the car.

A Corsa 1.4 16V on the insurance I think will nearly be £1,800 a year.
Just done an insurance quote on a 1.4 16V Sport Corsa B - £1,922.20 TPFT. EXPENSIVE! lol

Insurance for a 1.2 Corsa B LS - £1,600.20 TPFT with excess of £100.

Wonder how much it would be if I was to pay excess of say £750, which I would if it means cheaper insurance lol.
Quote from sam93 :Just done an insurance quote on a 1.4 16V Sport Corsa B - £1,922.20 TPFT. EXPENSIVE! lol

Insurance for a 1.2 Corsa B LS - £1,600.20 TPFT with excess of £100.

Wonder how much it would be if I was to pay excess of say £750, which I would if it means cheaper insurance lol.

Im just wondering, have you tried that adrian flux insurance company i mentioned earlier in the thread, as from everyone else i tried, they were waaaaay cheaper!
Quote from sam93 :Wonder how much it would be if I was to pay excess of say £750, which I would if it means cheaper insurance lol.

Might help a fair bit. I have a £500 excess I believe which got me the lowest quote.
considering youre going to do horrible things to it anyway i suggest you buy a car that deserves its fate... eg an opel
Quote from danthebangerboy :Im just wondering, have you tried that adrian flux insurance company i mentioned earlier in the thread, as from everyone else i tried, they were waaaaay cheaper!

I've heard of Andrian Flux before, specialises in young drivers doesn't he?

Quote from pb32000 :Might help a fair bit. I have a £500 excess I believe which got me the lowest quote.

I would have a £1,000 excess if it would make the insurance cheap lol.

Quote from Shotglass :considering youre going to do horrible things to it anyway i suggest you buy a car that deserves its fate... eg an opel

I am going to make the performanc a little bit better, not change the exterior
Quote from sam93 :I've heard of Andrian Flux before, specialises in young drivers doesn't he?

Yep, well, young drivers, modified cars, and imports, so pretty much anything that other insurance companies like to rob you for cover on!
Quote from danthebangerboy :Yep, well, young drivers, modified cars, and imports, so pretty much anything that other insurance companies like to rob you for cover on!

I will try them out when it comes to getting my car.
All these car threads and talk about insurance and your weak little cars are really starting to make me feel sorry for you all.

With the cars you guys are talking about, you wouldn't have to worry about being laughed off the road over here. You'd be run off the road far sooner while you struggle to hold half the speed limit up the hills and everyone else runs you over at 70 mph.
A 1.4 Fiesta will get 120mph (maybe) which is more than your peice of American shite, look at your roads too, shite unless you live in the canyons
LOL no it won't
Quote from mrodgers :All these car threads and talk about insurance and your weak little cars are really starting to make me feel sorry for you all.

With the cars you guys are talking about, you wouldn't have to worry about being laughed off the road over here. You'd be run off the road far sooner while you struggle to hold half the speed limit up the hills and everyone else runs you over at 70 mph.

It's stupid in America as if I remember correctly, it's your choice whether you have insurance or not.

One good example with how bad it is in America, the kid who got a M5 for his first car, took it to a runway and killed himself and 4 others I think it was.

I hate that fact that we have to start off in crappy cars but it helps us to learn car control and not step into something that has a lot of power and kill ourselves.

Guys:
Stripped out Corsa B or stripped out Nova or stripped out 205?
I am thinking of any of the cars I get, getting a full exhaust system fitted, including Manifold. What is a derestricted Manifold?
focus 1.4 is truly terrible, but check for a bog standard zetec focus 1.6. insurance is well cheaper than a 1.2 fiesta focus's make brilliant cars. also, a bog standard astra 1.6 is what ive got, 18 with a fault claim and im paying a grand FC. both are insurance group 4.

A good part of working out insurance is how much the particular car has been crashed, so for example clios, saxos and the like have cost the insurance company a fair whack, whereas focuss and astras generally havent as much, so are cheaper to insure. my astra was well cheaper to insure than some hairdryer.

Mine is a 2003/53 astra club 1.6 which i picked up for a shade over 2 grand, and is a great example. Not particularly quick or good handling, but realistically nothing really is at your age/budget.
Quote from pearcy_2k7 :A 1.4 Fiesta will get 120mph (maybe) which is more than your peice of American shite, look at your roads too, shite unless you live in the canyons

a 1.4 Fiesta will do about a 110mph, thing is though is may not be fast in a straight line, it will piss all over a American car in the corners as their cars can't do corners well lol.
My mum's kia picanto would pwn some of the shite american cars and that is 1.1L of pure fail.
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