What the HELL. That is lowly geared. Even my Fiesta with a really short box will do 65 or something on the clocks in third, and in that thing you can happily shift from 1st to 5th the ratios are so close.
It'll do 109 in 5th, yet you can actually actually drive it in 5th without any added vibration at 35, and actually have some performance at 40... I really don't get it.
Seat Leon 1.8 maybe?
I have an toledo and it is really reliable, kind of good looking to imo and really cheap!.
my eats about 6.5liters per 100km. img1 img2
yes Leon got different rear, and I think that is the only thing different about them.
Is the 1.8 the 1.8T Cupra? If so, I saw it, fell in love with it, found a few for under £2k, got a quote - but they wanted £3k just to insure it, so I gave up on that one :P
How ever much you want to deny it a Kia Rio 1.5 Diesel is going to have a hell of a lot of pull. It would basically leave your proton standing. And they get good mileage.
Now I know you are all going to say crappy kia tin can but it's better than the proton that Jack has got.
hmm, that depends lol. You get some 'riced' up Corsa's that do have some nice suprises under the bonnet, common one is the C20LET 200 bhp engine standard and then the tune them a little, so depends lol.
It's everyone to their own though, you may like Kia's, I myself don't. Have to admit though, their 4x4 is pretty nice lol.
I bet you have never even driven any of the new ones.
Cause you are just an idiot if you say that and have no proof to back it up. And he is looking for a car to replace his Proton Wira. He isn't looking for something like a lotus elise or anything like that. He is after a sensible car which will move better than his proton.
TBH you are pathetic calling something shit if you don't even know about it.
Again, 1.8t VAG, but only producing around 180hp this time.
And the pic the other guy posted is a toledo. A leon with a boot. Jack might be able to get insurance on these if he went for a sensible engine size but the toledo's are pretty expensive to buy.
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And TBH, your pathetic calling a Kia's Ceeds gearbox sporty, when i doubt you have even driven a sports car enthusiastically and know what a "sporty" gearbox feels like.
Just STFU with this kia crap, there a load of wank.
wow I got that a little bit wrong, My Toledo wich is an 1.6 takes that much.
1.8 leon I do not really know, but don't think there is much different since it is smaller and stuff.
I drove 600km~ one day average 120km/h~ had to fuel up 38 liters, full it is 45 liters.
Handbags, gentlemen. Please put them away. Let's not turn another topic into a 2-man-centric argument that goes nowhere because neither one will accept that people have different opinions about things. Internet arguments and special olympics. Think about it.