Even if it did explode, and debris would be shattered over huge distances, they would be able to find some more proofs of it, not just a oil track Let's hope they'll find something soon, so they maybe can get a rough guess where it whent down.

well they do know roughly where it went down but lets not forget most of the debris would have sank to the bottom of the ocean by now. The absence of the inflatable slides shows the plane didn't land on the water

The oil on the sea and debris that is now not thought to be from the plane, was spotted/found closer to Brazil than where the radar contact was lost, suggesting that the search area will have to be enlarged or relocated/calculated.

I hope they do find the black boxes, but fear they will not.

SD.

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The fact that the debris is spread over a massive area does suggest that it broke up in mid-air which, for me, is very worrying indeed. This is all just speculation, obviously.

This case of a plane breaking in mid-air was brought up in Plane crash investigation, remember seeing that episode. Cant quite make up the accident tho. (The details)

Seeing the render of the accident as thought how looked is just...

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Seeing the render of the accident as thought how looked is just...

Do you have a link for that render?

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Do you have a link for that render?

Nope sorry, saw it on TV couple months back. Tried youtube but nothing

Basically, imagine a plance flying over a town and just de-ataching, people in the middle quite literatully fell out with their chairs

Even if it had exploded, there would be debris. It wouldn't just evaporate into thin air. It's probably somewhere, but they just haven't found it yet. Airbus said that the automatic messages received prior to the signal lost implies problems with automated air speed problems. The air speed displayed on the pilots' instruments might have been wrong, and that's a major problem.

Yeah, read the paper & it stated the plane was quite possibly traveling far to slow

just seen on the news, they have found 17 bodies.

My mate got back into Paris on Sat, and back into Scotland yesterday. Said it was a very nervous flight back as everyone was gripping onto the armrests and got a bit panicky when they hit a bit of turbulence.

FTR he wasn’t lucky enough to win the midweek lotto jackpot, although he did get 3 numbers which got him £10. Allows him to buy a nice bottle of wine for his missus in an ill-tempted and ultimately futile attempt to apologise for not phoning her and instead phoned his mates.

Hell hath no fury like a pissed off Scottish ginger lassie.

Sounds like this one.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9611/05/briefs/peru.html


Dam shame.

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just seen on the news, they have found 17 bodies.

Saw it in the paper today too, seems they have found some bodies and seemed from the picture that was in the paper, seemed they were trying to recover part of the plane too. It is a great shame what happened, and if they don't manage to piece it together possibly always a mystery too.

they've found the intact tail section now

I can't seem to find any latest news on the plane :S Wonder if they've found the black box

if they did it would have made the news.

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I can't seem to find any latest news on the plane :S Wonder if they've found the black box

You can't find it, because there isn't any, many different thoeries why it could have happened, but no concrete reasons, just speculations based on the facts surrounding the lead up to its dissapearance.

Black box is still missing, TBH, if they haven't found it now, I am not sure they ever will.

Given that this is the nth Airbus to fall out of the sky with ' Nothing wrong with it, and it didn't suffer a complete systems lockup / failure. Just like the others didn't '

Who here really wants to travel by Airbus, the Ford Pinto of the sky ?

Anyone know just how many of these things have had systems lockups or just crashed with no explanation why ?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t ... ericas/article6523467.ece
"...This would strengthen an emerging consensus in the aviation world that flaws in the electronics of the Airbus led to the loss of control. In the midst of a tropical storm, at night, the crew would have faced enormous difficulty in flying without basic flight information. A small variation outside the acceptable speed range would have put the aircraft into a stall or an “overspeed” condition from which it could not recover.

Similar incidents have been reported by Air France and other companies operating the airliner. The French airline rushed through the replacement of all the pitot tubes — the outside speed sensors — on its A330 fleet last week, after acknowledging a “significant” number of failures in recent months.

Blocked pitots alone would not cause the disaster, analysts have said, and suspicion has fallen on the electronics at the heart of the Airbus. Experts suspect a flaw in the behaviour of the three independent air data inertial reference units which collect raw flight parameters such as speed and altitude.

One such faulty unit was blamed for a near disaster on a Qantas Airbus A330 over Western Australia last October. Confused data caused the flight control computers to register — mistakenly — an imminent stall and to disconnect the automatic pilot. They commanded a strong downward pitch from which the crew, fortunately, managed to recover, although 14 people were injured.

Airbus, Air France and the European Aviation Safety Agency have all voiced full confidence in the Airbus and dismissed all theories as speculation."

Well, yes, they all have money tied up with it working and being safe don't they ?

http://www.macdoctor.co.nz/?p=2287
"Airbus will be worried. There are now a series of alarming incidences, many of which involve the electronics of the aircraft. It will not be reassuring that the last message from Air France 447 reported electrical faults and cabin depressurisation. Does this point to a design fault in the aircraft itself? The list of problems is worrying:

* 07.10.2008 Qantas A330 suddenly dives for no apparent reason. 70 people injured.
* 29.10.2008 Qantas A330 suffered a navigational radar failure and had to follow an Air New Zealand flight.
* 14.11.2008 Qantas A330 suffered a radar failure and had to return to its departure airport.
* 28.11.2008 Qantas A330 has an oil light come on for one engine
* 28.11.2008 Air New Zealand A320 crashed on a test flight, killing 7. A possible problem with the avionics was mooted.
* 14.12.2008 Air France A321 suffered a double engine stall, landed safely
* 01.06.2009 Air France A330 crashes into Atlantic ocean. Cause unknown but had reported electronic problems.

I don’t know about you, but that is a scary list – and it only includes the recent incidents that I know about. It is particularly worrying that three of these incidents involved A330s falling out of the sky over water for no apparent reason."

As the company that makes them say's that they're safe I'm sure they are, after all Air NZ is buying them and I'LL NEVER FLY ON ONE !

Let a certain R Hammond test the things !

well the first five incidents could suggest there's a problem with antipodean airline companies maintenance / operating standards

hard to say at the moment, airbus and boing are pretty much equal on aircraft deliveries these days so without seeing a list of boing incidents in the same time frame and comparing them to aircraft in service numbers, it's impossible to tell if this is above the norm.

it is worrying though that it was suggested so early that a pitot problem may be the cause as this suggests prior knowlage of a potential failure

As the Antipodean Airline that had the crash ( Air NZ ) was flying in an Airbus maintained and flown, ( the pilots were German Airbus employees ) aircraft I'm interested in knowing just why it's now our fault the bastard crashed.

Please explain just how, as we never touched this plane, it's apparently our lack of maintainence that caused it to crash ?

Damn, guess I really should stop asking difficult question's like this. It only leads to personal attacks and flaming from people who can't answer the question !

Naturally, I'm quite prepared to accept that this is the best plane ever made and it's impossible for one to crash like this.

It's just that this is the second 'not' to crash like this ........

Of course they know about potential failure areas. It would be worrying if they didn't!

I'm really pleased that they know.

What would be even better is not releasing a beta programmed aircraft.

You really want to fly in one now, or would you rather wait for service pack 1 ?

lol, Racer, the conspiracy theorist is back.. stronger then ever!

Beta programmed?

Why do you come up with conspiracy theories about stuff you know nothing about. Everything has it's flaws. There is no perfect system, especially in a plane built to a price. Everything has stress limits, wear limits, fatigue limits. Things break. Things get blocked up. Things get wet.

You can feel safer that they know what MIGHT go wrong, so they can check it more often, rather than discovering that the wings are likely to fall off only after it happens.

Racer X - you should educate yourself before discussing topics you know nothing about.

LOL,

Sorry but who needs a conspiracy theory when the public facts are clear enough.

Statement - "This plane can never develop this problem"

Fact - Two A320 aircraft have had complete electronic failures and crashed with the loss of all onboard.

And the conclusion to draw from this is ?

This is a fly by wire, computer controlled aircraft. The latest thing.
If they crash for no reason ( given by the company ) I'd like to know why BEFORE I get on one.

You fly on what you like, thats your choice.

Before I'll get on an aircraft I'd prefer to know that it's actually going to make the flight without a catastrophic systems failure brought on by whatever.

It's a long way to fly from here.