The Sauber BMW is a fantastic addition to Live For Speed, but most of the current LFS tracks are not really good enough for the BF1. rF is going to get the BMW and the Nurburgring track... We need one F1 track, I think.

My first question is, which would be the easiest to get permission to make? What processes are needed to get the rights to make the track?

I was thinking, if rF can get the Nurburgring, so can we. If not, Silverstone or Spa would be great to see in the game.

Any ideas? Please don't flame me, giving me the "LFS isn't finished yet", it's just an idea.

the BMW was given for "free" to the LFS team, I am not sure the Nurburgring was given for free to rF. That is the point.

Well, it would be nice, but Eric's perfectionism means that it would take a few months to model atleast. If someone has connections and can pull a few strings and get a license for LFS for one of the tracks, I can see it happening. I think, if you guys have any connections, ask around and see if you can arrange it. Then take the offer to the LFS team. It can't hurt to ask, after all. I have no actual connections... maybe Zwartkops raceway, but that's a mickey mouse track, really.

Well, thanks for telling me

But maybe a track which isn't in the Formula 1 calendar, but is used for testing, e.g: Jerez, or Paul Ricard?

I could try Kyalami, through someone else whom I know who has a lot of connections for this type of thing. That's a nice track, but I'm sure it will be more difficult

But my point is, Kylami isn't a real F1 track, and probably is too slow for the current cars.

It would be good for the F08, but a track like Paul Ricard, Jerez or Valencia would be much better suited to the BF1.

Probably... I remember BMW-Williams doing testing here a few years back though.

Yeah, when F1 cars were slower

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Yeah, when F1 cars were slower

Not really. Now they are quicker through corners, but slower on the straights. They are 200hp down on what they had then but have more downforce.

(EDIT: Meaning a slower track should be easier now)

EDIT: Wrong thread. :doh:

Where does it say that rF is getting a track ... That will probaly be released by someone not related to ISI because there is no news on the ISI site of getting a track.

Whats wrong with the long tracks like Aston GP and historic ? Even Aston North is a good track. Theres also the long KY track.

Keiran

Keiran, look on the rF site, and look at the preview pics for their BMW.

http://www.simhq.com/_all/all_020d.html

Quote :

"The bad news for race sim fans is that this mod [the BMW/Sauber] won't be available for home use any time soon, as it's a privately commissioned mod for BMW/Sauber's corporate use."

Read that

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Keiran, look on the rF site, and look at the preview pics for their BMW.

And then read the ambiguous comment posted with them. It doesn't say much. Technically, even if that is indeed the Nurburgring, they are not using it for comercial purposes because they aren't selling it with the game yet. They don't really need a license for that.

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http://www.simhq.com/_all/all_020d.html



Read that

So, how come on the rF site, it says 'coming soon'?

Are you trying to say you're against the idea, then?

How come that interview is with the head programmer of ISI

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So, how come on the rF site, it says 'coming soon'?

Are you trying to say you're against the idea, then?

Their comment is just very ambiguous. Don't take it for granted that rF is getting the car or the track officially. I'm not against the idea, I'd like to see what rF can make of an F1 car. But I also like the idea of LFS holding exclusive rights to having the car officially in-game (among race-sims at any rate).

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Their comment is just very ambiguous. Don't take it for granted that rF is getting the car or the track officially. I'm not against the idea, I'd like to see what rF can make of an F1 car. But I also like the idea of LFS holding exclusive rights to having the car officially in-game (among race-sims at any rate).

It could be a nice comparasion of realism when two games have the same car. Now we just need Heidfeld or Villeneuve to do the testing

That's what I said, I would love Paul Ricard,

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They don't really need a license for that.

i doubt thats true. it would be very easy to prove rf is directly benefiting from using that track on the f1 show. In fact they are only there due to it. So they must have some kind of licensing, otherwise they are sue material.

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That's what I said, I would love Paul Ricard,

You'd need to throw some money Bernies way before that would happen

Well one of the questions in my first post was, "which would be the easiest track to get hold of?"

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Well one of the questions in my first post was, "which would be the easiest track to get hold of?"

Any easy-to-get-hold-of track is probably so mickey mouse you'd rather drive fantasy tracks. The only way to get hold of a good real track is with connections.

I still think KY GP Long is a superb F1 track. Tomorrow's (now today's) GP is going to take about 1min20 to do a lap, and KYGPLong is about 1min47 in a BF1, so I think the track length isn't a problem. AS GT is long nice and long, and varied and challenging, and I think is comfortably up to F1 standards. I personally don't much care for Fern Bay Black as an F1 track, though other Fern Bay configs are a dream for other classes. The track configs are there in LFS already for F1, though.

That doesn't mean I don't think anyone should try to get a real F1-calendar track for LFS. If it can be done, woohoo etc.

Even though I fully support having real tracks for some comparison, I'd much rather see Eric create his own tracks.

Imagine Westhill as the 'Nurburgring'. Westhill GP being the GP Nurb track, and an extra 'historic' Westhill that is the 14 mile 'Ring' course :hyper: What I am dreaming of currently