Quote from thisnameistaken :

Yeah, we should be more tolerant of intolerance...

so intolerance will not be tolerated?

Quote from AlienT. :

I did say racist like attitude, which is similar to prejudice

My point is I am sick of people jumping on the 'I hate racists' bandwagon. People with views that are perhaps not PC regarding the racism debate get severely jumped on always.

Am I happy about the ammount of immigrents being allowed into this country? No

Do I agree with muselim philosophy? No

Do I agree with Chritisan philosophy? No (I was christened a catholic)

Do I think that stale curry smell bad? yes

Am i a racist? No

Maybe yes, maybe no, but one thing's for sure... you can't spell.

And for the record, "I hate racists" is a pretty good bandwagon to be on.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Nobody's calling you a racist. But then you haven't told us that you think foreigners are dirty and black people can't be European, have you?

Why do you insist on talking about foreigners as being dirty? And black people CANNOT be European factually, in a medieval timeset how many of European citizens were black? Hmm, like none? Of course you have Rome, but they only used black people as gladiatorial slaves anyway but nevertheless my point stands. Even in WW2 days, how many citizens were black?

If you're pedantic and say that there is no such thing as 'english' then you are clearly wrong. If you can't except that people traditionally not English, aren't traditional English people then you will only cause problems for yourself. People ignore the obvious truths of life because they are too scared to mention it, yet if you ignore it, you are ignoring the very thing that makes a person unique.

Some facts for breakfast:

Before the early 16th century there has been no "white" people in America.
There was a period of time when english people tried to kill all scotsmen. They almost drove out all of the native scots or made them their slaves.
The English, German, Italian, Spanish, American, almost every country had their slaves and colonies, up to almost today. As an example, Half of Africa "belonged" to Germany and the Dutch. We ruined everything there and still we do by stealing everything that's worth more than a penny. English people brutally killed a few 100000 colonists in India, got what they wanted and went (or stayed) rich.

Mr. Flame, YOU yourself talked about dirty folks earlier, also YOU said something about "races should mix better" or "immigrants should mix". NOW you're telling us that you English people should be only the few percent with ginger hair and bad teeth. IF people of different "races" would "mix", which is by the way one of the most racialist words one could say, then there wouldn't be such Nazis as you are.

I know that we all are from different origin, and I don't care about all that racial stuff. there is one race - the human. My ancestors were from switzerland, poland, germany and maybe a hundred other countries. They all "mixed" and made me at last. My wife is of hungarian/dutch ancestry, we're planning on having a baby soon. So what? We're german, but we know where we come from.

And I'm glad I'm directly related to a communist liberal hippie, Georg Elser, a guy who saw the potential danger in another guy who happened to be one of the big leaders of european racism campaigns; uncle Adolf.
You desperately try to jump on the same failtrain by dividing people by skin colour, speech and belief into different races. what else would this be than racism???

no greetz

no butz

Quote from BlueFlame :

black people CANNOT be European factually, in a medieval timeset how many of European citizens were black? ... Even in WW2 days, how many citizens were black?

I don't know, I was born in 1974 and I've never thought to look up statistics, because it's not important. Does it bother you that some Brits don't have white faces? Would you like there to be all-white council estates preserved by the National Trust for future generations?

Quote from BlueFlame :

If you're pedantic and say that there is no such thing as 'english' then you are clearly wrong. If you can't except that people traditionally not English, aren't traditional English people then you will only cause problems for yourself.

So according to your strange categorisation system, how many generations of someone's ancestors need to have been born in England for you to declare them English? What if one parent is from another country, or one grandparent? Or is it strictly that they have to be white and it doesn't matter where their parents were born?

For someone who isn't a racist you're quite unreasonably preoccupied with the idea of an English 'race', but I'll go along with you for a moment and see where it takes us. Are we declaring the English race to be pre-WWII, or pre-1066 to keep the dirty Norman blood out of our pure English veins, or prior to the Viking invasion to keep those smelly foreigners out, or prior to the Roman invasion - are we looking for whites with pristine ice-age DNA, or (key point) just people who aren't black?

Quote from BlueFlame :

black people CANNOT be European factually, in a medieval timeset how many of European citizens were black? ... Even in WW2 days, how many citizens were black?

Now here's something for you to chew on: Right now, the most propable origin of mans dominion over the world is central africa. from there, early man ventured into asia, europe, and even america, australia and all the pacific islands.

Thing is, with evolution an all that stuff, that means that the very first europeans were black and direct african descendants. Us bleaching out in the harsher middle european climate was a lengthy process. So, by your logic, actually europe should be black, as they were the first to be here.

Also, I guess you are one of those who are worshipping an imported middle eastern diety, rather than believing in what your ancestors of old did, no matter if it was Odin, Thor, or celtic nature gods. So much for fear of migration induced change...

Quote from BlueFlame :

And black people CANNOT be European factually

So, next time Hamilton wins a race... what hymn are they supposed to play?
Nigga's Land one maybe?

Well this is going well.

Quote from CSF :

Well this is going well.

RACIST

Whit?

Quote from ColeusRattus :

Thing is, with evolution an all that stuff, that means that the very first europeans were black and direct african descendants. Us bleaching out in the harsher middle european climate was a lengthy process. So, by your logic, actually europe should be black, as they were the first to be here.

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No. The very first Europeans were Homo Erectus and were in Europe nearly 800,000 years ago. Homo Erectus were about as far removed from Modern African Humans as they were from any other race of Modern Humans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4526264.stm

Anyway irrespective, the traditional "Out of Africa" hypothesis of "Man" migrating out of Africa a relatively recent 150-200,000 years ago seems to be falling apart the more archeological finds that are made. A recent find puts Man outside Africa nearly 2 Million years ago.

http://www.independent.co.uk/n ... story-of-man-1783861.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/o ... ans-unravels-1783865.html

Quote from thisnameistaken :

So according to your strange categorisation system, how many generations of someone's ancestors need to have been born in England for you to declare them English? What if one parent is from another country, or one grandparent? Or is it strictly that they have to be white and it doesn't matter where their parents were born?

i believe the method thats been widely accepted for ~75 years now is parent and grandparents demonstrably being of the same race

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Maybe yes, maybe no, but one thing's for sure... you can't spell.

And for the record, "I hate racists" is a pretty good bandwagon to be on.

Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistakes.

Maybe i'm dyslexic? Do you have a problem with that? You picking on me because I can't spell? Or is it cos I is black (joking)

I have no time for racists or biggets myself but I also have no time for people that try to be PC because they can't think for themselves.

This is not aimed at anyone here, my point which I'm struggling to explain eloquently is that the original post was about an immigrent family living in a plush pad being paid for by UK tax payer, then all of a sudden it becomes an 'I hate Racists' thread.

Wait I'll get myself a bigger spade so I can dig a deeper hole.

Oh and the only time I have experienced extreme racism in my life is in Morocco when we had to cut our holiday short due to my wife and daughter being too scared to leave the hotel due to the abuse and even a threat we recieved from locals for being 'English bastards'. I was disgusted!

I won't post again in this thread because I simply can't be arsed to commit to a reply.

Never a good idea to say stuff like that, because you'll always come back.

Quote from 5haz :

Never a good idea to say stuff like that, because you'll always come back.

Well how can I not reply to you now!?

Quote from AlienT. :

Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistakes.

Maybe i'm dyslexic? Do you have a problem with that? You picking on me because I can't spell? Or is it cos I is black (joking)

Sorry, I was mostly going for "funny" end ended up with "offensive." My bad.

Quote :

I have no time for racists or biggets myself but I also have no time for people that try to be PC because they can't think for themselves.

This is not aimed at anyone here, my point which I'm struggling to explain eloquently is that the original post was about an immigrent family living in a plush pad being paid for by UK tax payer, then all of a sudden it becomes an 'I hate Racists' thread.

As far as I know, it wouldn't have become an "I hate racists" thread if not for BlueFlame's racist posts and the reactionary nature of the OP against the immigrants themselves and not the system that put them in a hilariously large/expensive pad. I doubt the Somali family actively campaigned for world-class housing.

I'm just gonna leave this here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/cassetteboy#p/a/u/1/_QAvkFS_cgk

Here is a little something on prejudice.

There are two tigers in two separate rooms. It is given that one of them has been well trained and the other is wild. However, it is not know which one is well trained and which is not.

Would you enter either of the rooms because it would be prejudice to tigers if you didn't try to greet the one that is safe to be around? You haven't met either of the tigers, how could judge either of them without ever meeting one?

No offense mate but that metaphor is total bollocks.

It is not meant to be good. It is just meant to get a point across. And if you don't get the point then it is not for you.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

No offense mate but that metaphor is total bollocks.

+1 People don't eat my face when I meet them, at least most of them don't, there was this one time when...well I won't go into that here because Zeugnimod might not want me to tell people.

Quote from legoflamb :

It is not meant to be good. It is just meant to get a point across. And if you don't get the point then it is not for you.

Oh no I get it.

Basically, black people are like tigers, and 50% of them will kill you on sight and the other 50% wont, so it's too dangerous to introduce yourself to them in case you get a bad one.

Right?

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Oh no I get it.

Basically, black people are like tigers, and 50% of them will kill you on sight and the other 50% wont, so it's too dangerous to introduce yourself to them in case you get a bad one.

Right?

You are 100% correct kev. I thank you for conveying my words the way I could never have done on my own. It seems like you got the right idea.

we should all join that ATL or w/e its called since BNP is gone lol say no to immigrants!!! im not trying to sound racist by saying that but shit! what a bunch of fking free loaders!!!!! if this post is inappropriate and a dev sees this please delete it!