England aren't all that much better than Mexico. Mexico should've scored another two goals but Vela was shit. Any forward who can't score in a 1 vs 1 against England (who only have second-rate goalkeepers) shouldn't be in the squad.

Also Gerrard cannot attack fairly, he always plays for a free kick, his passing has left him. He is a cripple of a forward now, he should not be in the team and he is vice captain?

Carrick is useless.

Glen Johnson's left-foot shot was nice but if that's the best goal England can come up with they are not going to get past the quarter finals. Again.

http://isenglandstillintheworldcup.com/

huh i wouldnt have thought youd be interested in football at all

Yeah I take an interest in football. I don't obsess about it, but I watch some games if I care about the teams.

That link will be worth watching. I remember 1994 when it would've said "No" before the finals started.

I ****ing hate football fans though, they are unbearable pricks. I suppose they model themselves on football players.

Let's put it in perspective though..

It's a friendly..no one ever plays that well in meaningless friendlies. Only three weeks until the world cup, so no one bothers closing down and tackling hard as they want to avoid any risk of injury.

Our defence looked poor, but we'll have Terry and Ashley Cole back for the real thing... Baines was so out of his depth..than god he's only our backup. We should definitely be stronger there for the real thing.

Lampard will be back, so that should boost the midfield. Hopefully Carrick wont even make the final squad as he is indeed absolutely shite.

Play Lennon from the start instead of "all pace but no clue what to do with the ball" Walcott.

Job done... We'll go out in the semi's then


Nice generalisation on the "football fans are all pricks" though fella.

I think you mean "the stereotypical England supporter is a prick". I know loads of football fans that are just normal people from all walks of life..not a moron amongst them. My old mum will be livid you called her a prick

I just lol'ed at the game

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Job done... We'll go out in the semi's then

not if you get into a penalty shootout you wont

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It's a friendly..no one ever plays that well in meaningless friendlies. Only three weeks until the world cup, so no one bothers closing down and tackling hard as they want to avoid any risk of injury.

Mexico are going to the World Cup too and simply were a better team. The passing and ball control was more fluid and consistent. They had all the same worries as the England team in regard to injuries, selection etc... Had it been a competitive match Mexico would've upped the tempo and been more committed themselves and would have destroyed us.

We had a goal that shouldn't have been, and a wonder goal from Johnson but on the whole the England team is fundamentally weak.

We are a quarter final team at the very best. That's the reality. We have a good manager and the team still can't put more than 5 passes together in a confident manner. It's all stop... give it to the defence... pass it around in the defence... and hope Gerard finds Rooney with a long ball.

We have too many individual players, and far too many England based players. There's no 'understanding' with the team. We just ahve a bunch of players individually superb, but no 'team' players. It's the same old cliche nonsense... but it holds true. We need less star players

What we should do is quite simple. Go route one. build the team around Crouch! It aint pretty but at least everyone knows what to do!

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Play Lennon from the start instead of "all pace but no clue what to do with the ball" Walcott.

Yeah what has the coach asked Walcott to do anyway? Run towards the corner flag then stand around looking thick until someone takes the ball off him?

I don't get it. You beat Mexico which is a good team and all you have to say is how crap England is? I swear to god it's as if you want the team to fail rather than succeed so you could keep on whining.

The concept that the result is the only thing that matters is why England are in such a mess. We went into the world cup 2006 thinking we could win it after we thrashed Jamaica in a friendly. Fact was then that we were (and still are) below-par

Brits, what pessemistic bunch.

I mean it seems fans of real underdogs teams like us Hong Kong gets more enjoyment watching our team play, even though once again we fail to qualify.

Screw the analyzing and just get the party going, England is at best a top 8 team and it always has been, why not just be content of that.

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Because, as brits, winning is the key: any lower just isn't good enough.

And how'd you lot endure the last 30 odds years without any mass suicide.

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Because, as brits, winning is the key: any lower just isn't good enough.

But when we win on a regular basis no one cares. Just look at F1. If Brit drivers aren't winning British teams are But no one really says anything.

I don't think people mind losing as long as we've got a fundamental good game. England has never strung more that two competent performances together. never have we had the comfort of a good solid team. That's what people don't like. When you have a solid team anything is possible (Greece 2004 ). With England there's a certainty we won't win the World Cup or anything soon.

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And how'd you lot endure the last 30 odds years without any mass suicide.

hehe I don't even count 1966 as a win. Home advantage nullifies any achievement

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hehe I don't even count 1966 as a win. Home advantage nullifies any achievement

I've heard some shit in my time, but this takes prize.

Umm, every football pitch is the same, how could home experience be an advantage? Yes having a large turnout of fans is nice but it it has hardly relevance to performance.

You talk about how nobody cares when we win, then you go and contradict yourself?

The way you go on anyone would think you're a deliberate troll... oh wait.

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I've heard some shit in my time, but this takes prize.

Winning your home world cup isn't as good as winning one abroad in terms of merit. You have a massive advantage over your competitors, and that advantage is even officially recognised in competition (the away goal).

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Winning your home world cup isn't as good as winning one abroad in terms of merit. You have a massive advantage over your competitors, and that advantage is even officially recognised in competition (the away goal).

Umm, how?

Its not like Karting by the way, every pitch and ball is the same.

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Anyway, he has a point, you dont have to qualify if you are host

England would probrably qualify be it home games or not.

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I've heard some shit in my time, but this takes prize.

hes got a point though on not counting it as a victory... that was never in a million years a goal and you lot damn well know it!

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Umm, how?

In CL and EL etc. (basically any round with 2 games), if the combined result is a draw, the team with more away goals advances.

(Not that I agree with Intrepid, just stating facts. )

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hes got a point though on not counting it as a victory... that was never in a million years a goal and you lot damn well know it!

Even without that Goal it still would've been Englands win 3-2.

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In CL and EL etc. (basically any round with 2 games), if the combined result is a draw, the team with more away goals advances.

(Not that I agree with Intrepid, just stating facts. )

Just because away goals are held in higher regard dosen't mean they are any more difficult.

And just because things are the way they are dosent mean they are right.

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Even without that Goal it still would've been Englands win 3-2.

you never would have scored that fourth goal without the motivation from getting the third

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Just because away goals are held in higher regard dosen't mean they are any more difficult.

You can't deny that "home court advantage" is supported by statistics all over the world though, hell ask any Liverpool fans about it. (or more about away suckage :razz

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you never would have scored that fourth goal without the motivation from getting the third

Thats just clutching at straws now.

Its the same with the home game effect, it may have an effect, it might not, speculation and a vague trend in some 'statistics' isn't enough to completely prove something is it, unless you're the average idiot fan?

A typical argument those who are desperate to discredit a team or persons success will use, did you know that often teams or individuals are successful because they are actually good?!?!?!

Also, why do fans talk to eachother as if they are the teams, you? I don't remember scoring any goals?

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hes got a point though on not counting it as a victory... that was never in a million years a goal and you lot damn well know it!

I agree with the German here....

True fact - In a secret area of Wembley there is a statue dedicated to the Russian linesman who gave that goal that never was.