I am not complaining about the race in general. I am arguing with another racer about racing logic. It’s a completely different thing.
I am not expecting anything to happen here. I am just trying to make a point

Quote from Michalxo :

I think he meant too low number in NGT teams and drivers abilities to drive fast 2:24 x 2:29 for example in GT2 class.
I agree, last year there was about 70 cars IIRC. Now half and a few more.

Looking forward to next year's race on ROC with new physics. :-)

Yea, just means that the GT2 standards are way higher. Want an easy "good" result, come to NGT or GT1. But now IMO a top 10 finish in GT2 has much more meaning than a top 5 in NGT with the different amount of cars and standards. The same quite applies in real life too, I recall there was something like twice or three times more starters in GT2 than in GT1 this year at Le Mans, and the general standards seemed to be better in the former

And about the overall car number... That's a shame yea. Hopefully we will get some update before the 2011 run but I personnally wouldn't bet money on that. The overall number of cars is as best gonna stagnate, or more probably will decrease, if there's nothing new before that. Any attempt at providing something new with Tweak or similar are probably not gonna work, just look at the LMP venture in MoE. Most people don't wanna hear about road cars or formulas, so other standard content of any kind seem to be no-go atm. Hard to give up any of the current class for something else anyway, since each class has its own fans.

In the end I'd rather look for 2012 or 2013 to see multi-class endurance getting back into shape, I'm affraid 2011 will be another kind of "transition" year with less teams signed-up.

16h's with FO8?

Quote from Seb66 :

16h's with FO8?

Now that'd be interresting

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

Now that'd be interresting

32 starters 3 finishers eh

Quote from xtraction :

32 starters 3 finishers eh

That's almost more than there were starters in NGT this year.

Quote from xtraction :

32 starters 3 finishers eh

That's it, more or less... If they change to NDR's rulesets.

Now I guess shift+P and stuff won't be removed

Quote from Seb66 :

16h's with FO8?

Why not with UF1 ?

Quote from Kova. :

Why not with UF1 ?

24h

Quote from kaynd :

And you choose to stay right behind me despite that gap. You had enough time and space to slip by my left side.
My maximum cornering speed through that corner is 160km/h, yours is at least 185. How on earth this could work? You were going full throttle till the very last second. Is it necessary to trace your ideal racing line when you are about to slow down that much because of the much slower moving obstacle in front of you? I just see a driver ignoring completely what is in front of him, doing hotlap runs.


I was already to the right... I decided to go even further to the right a second before you hit me. In my copkit you can see my wheel turning to the right and then to the left. I thought that it's obvious that I am not on rails... I was afraid that understeer will send me straight through the grass and I did what I could to avoid an exit. I was trying to make you space. And you had more than enough to make a clean and fast pass. But obviously you didn't care.

You can’t predict that this move leads to a certain crash, no matter what I do…
(1sec and 180milisec between the two shots.)
http://img85.imageshack.us/f/2abr.jpg/
but somehow you can predict that I would crash to the wall by my own… Guess what… there was a reason for my relatively low speed there and I would have gone through that turn just fine even with a late corner entry, if you had chosen a line that didn’t pass over me.



But let’s not narrow it down to my incident only… if it was only this, I probably wouldn't care.

What's your explanation on the scenes I added to my previous post when you took out your team's nGT because you had no intention to lift off the throttle to the slightest?

What about this?
http://img810.imageshack.us/f/20634864.jpg/
http://img132.imageshack.us/f/76760183.jpg/
http://img163.imageshack.us/f/37206595.jpg/


this is even more profound.
http://img264.imageshack.us/f/24926146.jpg/
and closer
http://img691.imageshack.us/f/64192605.jpg/
even closer and still full throttle
http://img28.imageshack.us/f/71771254.jpg/
woops
http://img297.imageshack.us/f/85204224.jpg/

and the reason I made my first rant post about you here.
8 minutes before the race finish
http://img709.imageshack.us/f/resultex.jpg/



You should learn something from your teammates.
V.Lombardi and N.Puntola didn’t cause any incident and almost never came close to.

Even if you think that everyone else is wrong and you are right, that doesn’t give you any right to knock them out of your way.
Mistakes do happen. but thinking this is what you should do... that’s my problem.

Anyway, I rest my case. I caused enough destruction to this thread.

You should use this in Photomode Competition where theme is fast braking ahahahahah

Quote from prOmo_LTU :

24h

I agree !

Quote from kaynd :

But let’s not narrow it down to my incident only… if it was only this, I probably wouldn't care.

What's your explanation on the scenes I added to my previous post when you took out your team's nGT because you had no intention to lift off the throttle to the slightest?

What about this?
http://img810.imageshack.us/f/20634864.jpg/
http://img132.imageshack.us/f/76760183.jpg/
http://img163.imageshack.us/f/37206595.jpg/

Ah....i was wondering who hit me there.

I was more than a bit annoyed when this happened. You could have waited a couple of seconds then you could have easily passed on the straight before the next chicane. Lucky for me I landed rubber side down after rolling about 4 times and the damage wasn't too bad.

For me this was wreckless driving with no regard for the little guys in the NGT's.

If you look closely in that last pic, I'm giving him the finger

Thanks to the RM 16h Race Organisators was great fun.

And thanks for mostly fair and clean driving to all the other crazy drivers.

Hope we see us next year again on a track with better curbs.

Thank you Commandermas for the results

Yes, thumbs up for the great job. Would also be great to have last years results kept somewhere in this sub-forum aswell, if someone still have them of course.

93./94. lap von #219 (ev0lutionsbremse)
Split 4 -> 1 (über Start/Ziel)

#225 will #219 (uns) überrunden.
#219 fährt auf der Geraden ganz links und #225 überholt rechts, fährt dann allerdings ohne erkennbaren Grund zu #219 nach links herüber und rammt den Wagen. (Absicht?!)

MfG

#219 - M. Schnieders that scene is for sure a thing, that is not needed in such a race. It is understandable that 225 was a angry with 219 after they were blocked several times, but we will penalize such a scene if we see it. 20 seconds penalty

They blocked me for I dont know how long, when they were under blue flag. You can see clearly that they take the inside again down the straight, to block the leader (or 2nd, cant remember). I gave them a note, that he has to let me pass now. (something that worked) :P Yeah, not a good move, but when someone a lap behind is blocking you that intentionaly, over such a long period, you get angry at them.

yes, as i wrote, it is understandable, but not a good move. a protest for beeing blocked would have been the better idea.

and if they didn't block you, the penalty would have been higher

yeah, ofc. And I wouldnt done it if they hadnt blocked like shit :P But yeh, protest would been the better choice ofc :P

Strange .... our (#255) protest against drivers who past us in the first SC period haven't been dealt with?

I guess no bid deal but at least a knowledge that the mail got to you and/or an explanation would be in order.

-nuked-

Quote from Cawwa :

Strange .... our (#255) protest against drivers who past us in the first SC period haven't been dealt with?

I guess no bid deal but at least a knowledge that the mail got to you and/or an explanation would be in order.

from which mail adress was this one sent?

Deadline team thanks RacingMinds for the this 16 hours race. We waiting this race in next year.

was a nice event guys. Next time i will attend for the 5th time.

Quote from Cawwa :

Strange .... our (#255) protest against drivers who past us in the first SC period haven't been dealt with?

I guess no bid deal but at least a knowledge that the mail got to you and/or an explanation would be in order.

looked that one up again.

Quote :

Past us (#255) during yellow at the big wall. Server time 7 minutes

/Bertil "Cawwa" Holmberg

This one was not posted because there was nothing to discuss about. In our Race there is no rule against overtaking under yellow flag, that was not in the SC period.

Quote from commandermas :

looked that one up again.


This one was not posted because there was nothing to discuss about. In our Race there is no rule against overtaking under yellow flag, that was not in the SC period.

As I recall it the SC was deployed and for sure the yellow flag was handed out. I find it odd that it is allowed to pass under yellow, but you make the rules. The three cars, named in the subject line of the mail, passed us becourse we were careful and acted normaly ...
No big deal though. I got your explonation.