Hi

Quote from Woz :

Your answer here highlights that you allow what is legal and easy to purchase to blur you view on what is a drug. Caffine is actually a far "harder" drug than you and many other give it credit for.

There is a reason fizzy drinks with high levels of caffine have become so popular with the young, they are an easy to source stimulant with strong effects and that gives a high when taken even in smallish doses. At higher doses has very strong effects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

You should read up on caffine, its withdrawl and overuse etc. Caffine withdrawl can be experienced after a short duration of highish caffine use and does lead to abusive and antisocial behaviour and depression along with a whole raft of other side effects including a 'crash' similar to that of other stimulants.

I'm aware of caffeine can do various things, caffeine rage and what not, and you can get addicted to caffiene! It's silly but true . But will admit I haven't really read into the effects. I certainly agree, however, that many young people use those blasted energy drinks for whatever rush of crazy energy they feel they need.

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All of us have a very limited view on the world when we only take our own experiences into account. Doing this limits our view of the human condition and what that means into a tiny slit of what people are and live with and through during life. Sorry if this is a bit zen but hope you can see where I am coming from

I can't really understand what you're trying to say. From what I can see, it's that we can only judge on our own experiences and none of us are able to see the 'whole picture'? Which in iteself is true but if that's the case, how can anyone cast judgement on anything since none of us have enough experience to see this 'whole picture'?

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This is a shame because understanding the issues around the war on drugs and the costs and side effects of this "war" is one of the central issues in the entire debate.

The fact that the US back tracked on its attempt to ban booze shows it is fuitile. When scaled to a global level the disruptive problems is causes are drastic.

It's simply just an area I don't want to get involved in, the drugs trade is destructive but there are so many people that drink, of course a ban on alcohol would backfire.

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Education on drugs and their misuse is better than a ban, less destructive on society and also provides huge income via taxes to help deal with problems such as misuse. It is a far better solution that also removed hugh income for gangs and hence much of their power.

Agree with this. Many people will just try something because it's illegal, it's like an additional rush from simply breaking the law

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BTW: This is not a personal attack on you. I have singled you out as you appear to have a strong view on this and also appear up for a meaningful debate on the subject in the way to respond to my posts

It's fine, that's what forums are for, eh? It's just this thread touches base with me on my past and things that have happened to people who are/were close to me.

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They are perfectly entitled to their opinions, but to those of use who have a lot more life experience, and in this case experience of using drugs, their opinions really don't count for much I'm afraid.

I agree but unfortunately as you say, everyone has an opinion and we can't really do much about that.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

I can't really understand what you're trying to say. From what I can see, it's that we can only judge on our own experiences and none of us are able to see the 'whole picture'? Which in iteself is true but if that's the case, how can anyone cast judgement on anything since none of us have enough experience to see this 'whole picture'?

Yep, I was trying to highlight that you were saying most people that use drug have bad lives because of what you have seen. While what you have seen might not have been nice it is a smal view of the picture.

Research and shared experiences is what allows us to see more than just your own world and has lead to huge strides forwards in humanity.

I have also seen a friends life ruined by opiates when I was much younger and no longer have contact with them. I also know the depth of addiction that giving up cigarettes involves after smoking them for nearly 20 years before stopping after many attempts. I also know how quick addiction can re-assert itself because of earlier failed attempts during my life.

I don't want them banned though and have no issue being around people while they are smoking, it is now simply not something that is part of my own personal experience as it added nothing to my life.

There are drugs I have used and still use for recreational use for which I know after playing with for most of my adult life that I have control over, not the other way. I know I can take or leave them without issue and do.

Even with what I have seen opiates do and know the destruction the likes of P and Coke can do I still believe being legally available is a better solution than what we currently have. Education on them is the only way, as I know you agree.

This is not saying drugs should be sold from corner shops like cigs or in the supermarket like caffine, they need to be controlled.

Places like Holland show legal access reduces issues. Amsterdam has a "drug tourists" problem because people from other countries go their to experiment and cause problems but outside the red light tourist area it is a very different picture.

Coffee shops are country wide where there is legal access to pot and mushrooms. The are low key hassle free places that are far nicer to spend time in than many bars.

Holland has lower crime rates for most of the crimes you associate with drugs problems and also violent crime is lower. They are not locking up people that do not need to be locked up and also they have tax take on the drugs instead of large man power and spending to try and control them.

For all the political trumpet blowing in many countries on how well the war is doing I can source any controlled drug in very little time if I had a desire to. In other words it is an epic fail.

Thats me done here but hope I what I have said has helped you see there is far more to the whole debate than you currently believe. Do not believe what the government says though... Guy Fawlks was the only person to enter Parliament with honest intent

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I sort of agree with Dustin's comments but regardless, why the urge to do weed in the first place. I mean, I agree, it seems to certainly be less dangerous, but it's still a mental status altering substance and begs the question as to why you want your mental status altering to begin with.

I dunno.. I don't know why I still wanna try weed. I hate the smell, but it makes me.. curious. I probably will try it sooner than later as well. I dunno why anyone likes mind altering stuff, yet people actively drink booze, do drugs or anything that changes their body state via a chemical imbalance.

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And Canadian's aren't all that bad. I know one in particular and they are most certainly not stupid. Infact they're one of the smartest and most interesting people I know. Let's not generalise a nation based on a South Park episode.

The worst part of Canada.. we have America as neighbours, thus get grouped with them far too often.

Quote from The Moose :

They are perfectly entitled to their opinions, but to those of use who have a lot more life experience, and in this case experience of using drugs, their opinions really don't count for much I'm afraid.

Not everyone with experience have only good words to say.

Quote from -NightFly- :

Not everyone with experience have only good words to say.

There are very few things in life which are entirely positive. Few fun things anyway.

Out of the drug abstainers here, how many of you routinely drive too fast because you get a kick out of it? See, I might enjoy mushrooms but I would never drive irresponsibly on the roads. I am totally serious about that too.

This may well be a huge, HUGE sum of text, but here goes, feel free to skip if you CBA.

I cannot really comment in that much depth about illegal drugs, simply because i havent done em, well, maybe the odd joint as a youngster, but thats about all.

However, what i CAN comment on (and those who know me in real life can and will agree, particularly becky) is alcohol.

Its no secret to some on this board that i have had (and continue to have, to a point) issues with the drink (damn, theres a whole thread i made on it somewhere in offtopic!) and i will totally agree with what S14 said a few pages ago, which was how you feel about your life, things that have happened to you personally, and whats going on etc, affecting you attitude and therefore use of such things.

I have always enjoyed the odd pint or 2 of a weekend with a few mates down the pub, its just the way things are, the pub is the centre piece of the villiage, and its a place for youngsters, middle aged people and OAP's alike to meet, chat and socialise, a bit like the old days, everything was discussed over a beer down the boozer, go back 25 or 30 years and it was the norm everywhere.

I never drank to get drunk, i simply enjoyed a chat with folk over a nice cold pint after a hard week at work and (especially during boiling hot summer weather!) who could blame me, beer garden, sunshine, summertime, lovely.

Then, my life changed, i lost my driving license due to some silly handbrake turn related incident (nothing to do with alcohol) so instead of going out in my car with mates to cruises and stuff, i had nothing to do, and all this spare money (i sold my car as i was banned so no point keeping it) boredom, and sadness at not being able to drive, i climbed into a beer can for about a year...

Weekdays, go to work (hungover usually) home from work, dinner, telly, then id start at about 8 ish, to my room, PS2 (they were new then!) play loads of games, crisps, and a couple of cans,but over the weeks and months, the odd can turned into 2, then 3, and before i knew it, it was 8 cans of caffreys every night, but strangely i always used to go to bed fairly early, 11pm was usually as late as i would stay up, i was probably falling to sleep because of all the beer tho.

Then weekends, mindset to get as trollied as possible, over newmarket for about 8pm, pubs, clubs, kebab and then home at 5am, totally $hitfaced!

Then something else happened quite by chance, her name was mel.

She was only 5 years older than me but knew my parents as they used to go to the same pub over in soham and had become friends, i never used to go with them when they used to go over on a wednesday evening for karaoke (too engrossed in beer and playstation remember!) and on sunday, psshh, no chance, by lunchtime i was still sleeping saturday night off!

By some way or other our paths inevitably crossed (i think mum n dad had maybe told her about how i was getting and got her to have a word) and before i knew where i was me and mel were really good friends and instead of blowing £100 odd and being pissed out of my tree every weekend and vegging in my room every weeknight i was going out with mum and dad over to soham and enjoying a couple (3 max) pints in the pub and socialising, plus i had been introduced (by mel) to karaoke, i have no shame, plus it was really fun.

But then there were still the evenings where there wasnt a karaoke on anywhere and i was still drinking myself silly at home, until mel came upto me on one of the nights i was out and said, i feel that i know you well enough to say this to you now, dont waste your life sitting in your room like a sad act, youre being a ****ing idiot, why are doing it, what is the point of it, really, why drink your life away, are you just bored, or what, is having mates who care not enough for you??

And i couldnt answer it with a valid response, because she was right, and deep down, i knew she was, i simply had nought better to do, time on my hands, yeah lets have a drink after drink in my room like a recluse, it'll pass the time, nothing better to do.

So i simply found another interest, a mate of mine moved back nearer to mine, and used to help someone he knew build bangers of an evening, and so i then became danthebangerboy, building cars in the evening with me mate who used to take me with him, plus i still had my wednesday nights in the pub with parents and mel, and it worked, cant get pissed when working on cars can i?

In time i got my license back (after having to retake my test) and all was good, in hindisight i neglected mel and the pub eventually as my mates mate (now my mate) had got more committed to doing more race meetings and i was needed more there, plus i could drive again now.

Then i met my (now ex) fiancee, and we were really happy, i worshipped her and she did me, so i drifted away from racing, just wanted to be with her, plus i couldnt afford the 15 mile round trip everynight once we moved in together, which is where i went a bit off again, she lost her job, money got real tight, and i started slipping back into that ol' beer bottle in the evenings again, i was happy with her, but unhappy with the circumstances, work all day, bust my balls, but always nearly broke, beer helped block it out.

Then i realised that it was becoming an issue again and thats when i started a thread on here somewhere about it all, and although i knew it myself anyway, seeing other people offering advice helped push me into making a change, so i did.

I then ended up splitting with her and moving home, and although i was probably at my lowest ebb ever around about then, i never slipped into those old ways again, coz i know that it doesnt work!

I have been there and done it, twice, and it really is pointless, so i have kerbed the habit.

Im not going to lie, even now, i have a drink every day, one can of beer in the evening, and i am quite happy with that, because in my heart of hearts, i am most likely addicted to, or at least somewhat dependant on alcohol, but one can of lager while watching telly is much more acceptable and sensible (not to mention better for me) than multiple cans every night.

I have my weekends down the pub, where i do have 4 or 5 pints sometimes, but the difference is that i do not get drink to forget, or to get totally plastered, i just enjoy a beer socially, and thats good enough for me.

You may wonder, whatever happened to mel??

Theres a party on this saturday night, i am meeting her there, i think a good ol catchup is in order,god i have missed her!

Quote from TehPaws3D :

You know, This explains why people in canada have lowered mental abilitys. Store buggy + Staircase = LETS ****ING DO IT. But yet, The broken bones in the end is what makes me smile. Oh wells..

Ironic coming from an American.

Our educational system may be in the gutter, but at least it's not as bad as yours!

I feel like I can call Americans retards because I lived in the USA for a few years and know a lot of Americans.

The Americans I am friends with would never object to my objections about Americans. It's a strange country, almost as polarised as Northern Ireland. When you look at the way they consider nations like Iraq or Afghanistan, you can sort-of understand why they don't understand. Because they are so ****ed up themselves but manage to stay one step ahead of anarchy due to being the richest nation on earth.

If the current round of QE doesn't rescue the dollar I can see them having another civil war.

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If the current round of QE doesn't rescue the dollar I can see them having another civil war.

Sounds like a sci-fi shooter... Angry public revolts against gov't... gov't uses Nuclear weapons on their own people... Zombie revolution. You know the drill.

Dear Klutch,

On one hand, it hurts me to read this all, on the other hand, I'm very proud of you.

It took me until 3 days ago to tell my parents about my drugs abuse.

This is a main reason why things went wrong.

As the last poster is talking about brain experiences such as sex, bungee jumping, etc.

I'll tell you a FEW of my really good experiences.

1. Karting my favourite thing to do, and when I'm calm and feeling well, I'm very good at it. It's my absolute love, and I would love to once drive in a racing series.
2. Taking photo's, I am absolutely addicted to taking photo's of everything I like. For example, Gas Stations, Trains, Houses, Fun Things, Auto-sport, Nature, the Sun, etc.
3. I get a über high kick from racing a nice race in LFS.
4. Taking chilling drugs such as shrooms, weed, hasj.
5. Writing poems, lyrics, etc, really makes me happy, and "turns me on"
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I could continue, but probably no1 is interested, so that's why I'll be quiet.

Keep up Klutch, I really like you.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I feel like I can call Americans retards because I lived in the USA for a few years and know a lot of Americans.

The Americans I am friends with would never object to my objections about Americans. It's a strange country, almost as polarised as Northern Ireland. When you look at the way they consider nations like Iraq or Afghanistan, you can sort-of understand why they don't understand. Because they are so ****ed up themselves but manage to stay one step ahead of anarchy due to being the richest nation on earth.

If the current round of QE doesn't rescue the dollar I can see them having another civil war.

What amazes me is how it seems that 49° line seems to be the magic ticket. You don't see many people born here going "Hey, he's a towelhead terrorist".. but it seems if you're born south of the 49th, it's like it's inbred into them.

Just ****ing strange how that works.

Quote from MAGGOT :

Sounds like a sci-fi shooter... Angry public revolts against gov't... gov't uses Nuclear weapons on their own people... Zombie revolution. You know the drill.

Ah but they've got a democrat government at the moment, so no nukes allowed. No it will be apologising democrats sending the National Guard against the right-wing nutjob Tea Party dickheads who are probably better-armed than the National Guard anyway. So a fair fight.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Ah but they've got a democrat government at the moment, so no nukes allowed. No it will be apologising democrats sending the National Guard against the right-wing nutjob Tea Party dickheads who are probably better-armed than the National Guard anyway. So a fair fight.

Aww, but I wanted a zombie apocalypse.

Quote from MAGGOT :

Aww, but I wanted a zombie apocalypse.

And just who doesn't like a good zombie apocalypse ???

Just make sure you post it on youtube !!!

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Agree as I said that perhaps banning of certain substances is not the way forward as mentioned. Governments are very naive when it comes to things such as tracking down dealers and suppliers and generally focus on the small fish in what is a very large pond.

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Thats me done here but hope I what I have said has helped you see there is far more to the whole debate than you currently believe. Do not believe what the government says though... Guy Fawlks was the only person to enter Parliament with honest intent

I never believe anything the government say, learnt that lesson about oh, 19 years ago.

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A very interesting, sad and happy story. Thanks for sharing.

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I dunno.. I don't know why I still wanna try weed. I hate the smell, but it makes me.. curious. I probably will try it sooner than later as well. I dunno why anyone likes mind altering stuff, yet people actively drink booze, do drugs or anything that changes their body state via a chemical imbalance.

Curious as to what? As to the feeling of being high? Are you therefore curious about homosexuality? Just saying, because this is what I'm trying to comprehend, that is the reason behind people being curious about drugs. Is it because they're illegal, or because people say that 'good' things happen?

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What amazes me is how it seems that 49° line seems to be the magic ticket. You don't see many people born here going "Hey, he's a towelhead terrorist".. but it seems if you're born south of the 49th, it's like it's inbred into them.

Just ****ing strange how that works.

Oh come on, I'm in Florida, the southern most state, and I've never said or thought that.

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Is it because they're illegal, or because people say that 'good' things happen?

The main thing that lead me to trying MDMA was seeing how happy and in absolute bliss everyone was.
And the other thing was that i wanted to go hard all night, not piking by 3am.

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Curious as to what? As to the feeling of being high?

From my experience, weed is not something really fantastic, "out of this world". Similar state of mind can be achieved naturally, through various practices like pranayama.
Weed only gets you there quicker, and it really depends on your state of mind where it`ll lead you(self centered meditation, expansive/exhilarating, creative, focused and lo and behold: very active - caffeine rush-ish).
If you want to use it to relax, and you smoke it like a chimney, it`ll put you to a few hours of sleep. But it also helps raise your vibration and awareness, if that`s what you wish.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Are you therefore curious about homosexuality?

If you would be curious about homosexuality, would you not pursue it? If not, why, because others frown upon it? As with weed, it`s not like you run around shouting "hey people, I`m homooooooo!".
I wouldn`t have a problem with it as long as you keep it to yourself and don`t actively try to "convert" me. Informing me it`s ok.

I see nothing wrong in any activity that produces joy and happiness to someone, if said activity comes from the heart and is not one of violence.
Sure some activities might kill you in the process, but that`s the risk you consciously take.

Maybe that`s how you can explain to some people, the purpose of racing, ehm, I mean use of a car in a way it is "wasteful" (according to them). You go try explaining them, see what happens.

:twocents:

Quote from Klutch :

The main thing that lead me to trying MDMA was seeing how happy and in absolute bliss everyone was.
And the other thing was that i wanted to go hard all night, not piking by 3am.

So you wanted an artificial boost because you were incapable of enjoying the night without the use of drugs?

Quote from STF :

From my experience, weed is not something really fantastic, "out of this world". Similar state of mind can be achieved naturally, through various practices like pranayama.
Weed only gets you there quicker, and it really depends on your state of mind where it`ll lead you(self centered meditation, expansive/exhilarating, creative, focused and lo and behold: very active - caffeine rush-ish).
If you want to use it to relax, and you smoke it like a chimney, it`ll put you to a few hours of sleep. But it also helps raise your vibration and awareness, if that`s what you wish.

That's my point sir. If you can achieve similar levels of enjoyment/relaxation without resorting to drugs, then the only thing they're good for is possibly risking your health. I mean, meditation takes discipline and self control, while those who want to get there quickly, appear "cool" to their friends and peers and who don't really care about their health would choose the take the drug.

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If you would be curious about homosexuality, would you not pursue it? If not, why, because others frown upon it? As with weed, it`s not like you run around shouting "hey people, I`m homooooooo!".

Many people 'brag' about being on certain drugs as they think it appears to make them cool or more tough. They brag about getting high/drunk, as if it's some sort of competition. This just about shows their maturity, if you ask me..

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I wouldn`t have a problem with it as long as you keep it to yourself and don`t actively try to "convert" me. Informing me it`s ok.

I see nothing wrong in any activity that produces joy and happiness to someone, if said activity comes from the heart and is not one of violence.

Which I agree with, to a point. I often wonder about many things but I don't act upon them. Being curious and actually doing something about that curiosity are very different things. I'm curious about many things but don't act upon them. it goes against my beliefs and against my personality, and plus while I am curious, I have absolutely no urge to find out 'what something is like', especially if it comes to drugs/alcohol. Plus while they may not convert you, the effects of this may end up affecting you in some way, especially if it's a friend or family member.

Being on a particular substance, whether alcohol, weed, opiates, etc, would mean that you're not in full control of your mental status and body which means that you are likely (depending on you as a person and how much of said substance you've taken) to cause injury or harm to others around you, or yourself at the very least.

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Sure some activities might kill you in the process, but that`s the risk you consciously take.

Many people don't conciously take a risk. It's mostly sub-concious. If someone takes ectasy, herion, etc, they're not thinking 'I know there is a risk and that I may become ill or even worse, and there are many people in my life who would worry about me etc', they think 'Cool let's get smashed/have a good party' or whatever.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

So you wanted an artificial boost because you were incapable of enjoying the night without the use of drugs? .

Er, what? Don't twist my words!

I've said this like twenty times in this thread. I am capable of having an amazing night out without the use of drugs.
But, when you add in drugs, it makes the night BEYOND amazing.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Curious as to what? As to the feeling of being high? Are you therefore curious about homosexuality? Just saying, because this is what I'm trying to comprehend, that is the reason behind people being curious about drugs. Is it because they're illegal, or because people say that 'good' things happen?

I'm just curious of the feeling of getting high. Not curious enough evidentally as I always pass on my friends when they're like "Lets hang out!"

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That's my point sir. If you can achieve similar levels of enjoyment/relaxation without resorting to drugs, then the only thing they're good for is possibly risking your health. I mean, meditation takes discipline and self control, while those who want to get there quickly, appear "cool" to their friends and peers and who don't really care about their health would choose the take the drug.

Show me the meditative state that comes close to the experience of taking LSD and I will certainly give meditation a go.

I'm pretty sure the experience of hallucinating on LSD or mushrooms is an experience you cannot get any other way. If you don't want to know what that's like then that's fine by me, but if someone else does, why would you have a problem with it? They're not doing you any harm.

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Show me the meditative state that comes close to the experience of taking LSD and I will certainly give meditation a go.

I'm pretty sure the experience of hallucinating on LSD or mushrooms is an experience you cannot get any other way. If you don't want to know what that's like then that's fine by me, but if someone else does, why would you have a problem with it? They're not doing you any harm.

Agreed

I am responsible for several people who initially said they would never try LSD trying it for the first time, and being there to guide them through their trip and not one has regretted it. Or has been able to compare it to anything like they have ever experienced before, it will confront you with your own thoughts to a degree you can't imagine and show you the world in new light
"but.. but i don't need lsd"

No, you don't, but to say you don't want to know what lies beyond your own perception.. Well that is a reflection back onto your fear of reality.

LSD is not something you use to escape, it will confront you with full force with what ever you are trying to escape from.

"oh then it doesn't sound fun at all"
Depends on your personality, if you are a closed minded it may open your eyes to new things or you may be locked in Satan's kitchen for 6 hours.

If you are open minded and down to earth you will have the time of your life watching clouds and marveling at nature, everything is immersive beyond comprehension.

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Er, what? Don't twist my words!

I've said this like twenty times in this thread. I am capable of having an amazing night out without the use of drugs.
But, when you add in drugs, it makes the night BEYOND amazing.

Then if you don't need them to have a good time, is the added enjoyment worth the risk to your body? Oh, after looking at you, I guess it is.
Just messing! lol:]

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Show me the meditative state that comes close to the experience of taking LSD and I will certainly give meditation a go.

I'm pretty sure the experience of hallucinating on LSD or mushrooms is an experience you cannot get any other way. If you don't want to know what that's like then that's fine by me, but if someone else does, why would you have a problem with it? They're not doing you any harm.

With meditative states, you don't tend to hallucinate...so if that's the end result you're looking for, then you'll be disapointed. It's about reaching a relaxed state and keeping only those positive thoughts (I think those who are deeply into this sort of stuff call it 'positive energy') while not thinking about anything bad. It's about believing in something and enabling you to do it.

Sorry but I detect a sort of 'Well it's your loss' attitude because I choose not to use drugs for whatever reason? Sure people who I don't know doing drugs may not harm me (equally they might - they may think I'm an ancient king and then they'll stab me to recover my 'treasure' because they're so tripped out), but those around me (friends/relatives etc) would affect me because they are putting their health, both physical and mental, at risk.

Quote from FPVaaron :

I am responsible for several people who initially said they would never try LSD trying it for the first time, and being there to guide them through their trip and not one has regretted it. Or has been able to compare it to anything like they have ever experienced before, it will confront you with your own thoughts to a degree you can't imagine and show you the world in new light

So basically, from my understanding, you took some people who didn't want to try drugs and using whatever methods, probably 'peer pressure', you got them to take what they clearly didn't want to originally take. Grats bro.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

I'm just curious of the feeling of getting high. Not curious enough evidentally as I always pass on my friends when they're like "Lets hang out!"

I can relate. My friends at my previous job used to smoke a joint at lunch or whatever. They always offered but I refused simply because I don't want to be using drugs. As mentioned, of all the drugs (inc alcohol), I would rather someone did weed than anything...so I can sort of accept people doing it, but they weren't my 'best' friends, members of family or my spouse. If people in those 3 groups were doing it I'd have a very different attitude. One which I hope I never have to use.

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Sure people who I don't know doing drugs may not harm me (equally they might - they may think I'm an ancient king and then they'll stab me to recover my 'treasure' because they're so tripped out)

Rrright... :munching_