Quote from Albieg :

It isn't so. In fact you don't know, unless you're able to read the mind via Internet. What if somebody read another thread on FM before reading what you have written now? He/she could know a part of a story that you made public and have an idea about you (and someone else) already, heavily contrasting with your expectations. It was an interesting story that made me think a lot. At the same time, there was nothing particularly strange in what I read, it all seemed so fitting in its way. So your post is nothing new. But basically what you wrote here and elsewhere tells there may be some problems that can and must be corrected. These are problems which have to be solved internally to FM, but at the same time these very problems affect the way FM community is perceived by non-FM members, and the results are clear. FM members who deny this and reduce other people's opinions to trolling or flaming, or state their will to defend friends because they are friends won't do any good. Moreover, it doesn't change the perception of FM, which is for many people in this moment similar to the one you expressed. I find this rather ironical.

In response to your post, I can only say... That sectino of my post was directed more t'ward those who knew that I was an FM Admin, and had been for almost a year now... Obviously, the statment was pointless in your eyes, but I felt it had to be said all the same.


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I'm one of those who didn't even finish one race in LFS. In fact I prefer to stay on demo servers since I want to learn to drive the XFG and there are close to zero S2 servers who run the BL/XFG combo. I don't clear my stats for the occasional run I take on empty S2 servers here and there since. I don't claim to be a know it all.
Instead of posting here again, Harry, I'd suggest you take a look at how some friends of yours are struggling to defend you. I would be thankful because they are caring guys, but I'd try not to embarass them any more.

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I'm already struggling with grammar and syntax, but I'll try to pay more attention to formatting next time.

Thank you.. And no, I'm not being sarcastic

I understand language barriers, so don't worry about it to omuch.. I'm just picky sometimes.

Quote from Crazy Harry :

To get this clear. I´m - and I guess all others - are NOT pissed that you´re opened that thread. The thread shows the opinions of cool racers but mostly kids in the lfs forum. Some guys who post a lot here don´t even FINISHED ONE RACE IN LFS. But claim to be the KNOW-IT-ALL.

The thread shows clearly how short some people think and act. Only read the last post and spam spam spam. That´s it in a public forum. Boring? No, funny.

Look in any oval/drift/drag thread. The crowd needs someone to blame. Have a good one Thor!

So people expressing their opinion (and in many cases, their anger) with the FM-Servers (and the way they are lead) is just flaming and kid's posts? I'm sorry, you're missing the point completely... Face it, you HAVE a problem with your image, as is displayed in this thread, and (especially) your posts didn't helped a bit to change that... In fact, the worst replies I've seen here were from [FM]-guys... Yes, Thor did make this thread without you all knowing, yes, it was heading for desaster right from the start, but all you did was to bring this thread further down (which is kind of art, really)... Just take the results of the poll, change something or live with the bad image you have now... I don't care what you do (and I couldn't care less about your community), but blaming others for your bad reputation won't help matters...

Quote from bbman :

So people expressing their opinion (and in many cases, their anger) with the FM-Servers (and the way they are lead) is just flaming and kid's posts? I'm sorry, you're missing the point completely... Face it, you HAVE a problem with your image, as is displayed in this thread, and (especially) your posts didn't helped a bit to change that... In fact, the worst replies I've seen here were from [FM]-guys... Yes, Thor did make this thread without you all knowing, yes, it was heading for desaster right from the start, but all you did was to bring this thread further down (which is kind of art, really)... Just take the results of the poll, change something or live with the bad image you have now... I don't care what you do (and I couldn't care less about your community), but blaming others for your bad reputation won't help matters...

I heard something once that would fit nicely here.. But I can't remember what it was. I'll just say "Well put." and leave it at that.

Well I have not raced on the FM Oval servers before and after they way they have behaved in this thread it's a safe bet that I never will.

Quote from SabersKunk :

Well I have not raced on the FM Oval servers before and after they way they have behaved in this thread it's a safe bet that I never will.

Dude, nothing against you, but I think you are a follower. You read some or all of this thread and realize some people dont like us. But there are a big bunch of people who do. And if you dont want to form your own opinion about the community or the servers, then do it.

Quote from Torben :

Dude, nothing against you, but I think you are a follower. You read some or all of this thread and realize some people dont like us. But there are a big bunch of people who do. And if you dont want to form your own opinion about the community or the servers, then do it.

from what he wrote im pretty sure he did form his oppionion not because of what others said about you but because of what your members (especially harry and stoned (btw having that nick in leet speech doesnt exactly help with giving others the impression that youre a competent and mature admin)) posted in here

the posts of your very own team show an attitude most of us dont want to see in somebody whos going to admin their race ... accept it or change it but dont call others sheeps

Quote from Shotglass :

...especially harry and stoned (btw having that nick in leet speech doesnt exactly help with giving others the impression that youre a competent and mature admin)) ...

Who is Stoned?


edit: Ups... takes me month so see what Plaztiks real lfs name means. Shame on me. =)

I think everybody's made their opinions abundantly clear, how about you all stop putting the boot in now?

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Who is Stoned?


edit: Ups... takes me month so see what Plaztiks real lfs name means. Shame on me. =)

Its Plastick

We always think plastickman but never look at his real name. Took me while to figure out as well

Quote from Shotglass :

from what he wrote im pretty sure he did form his oppionion not because of what others said about you but because of what your members (especially harry and stoned (btw having that nick in leet speech doesnt exactly help with giving others the impression that youre a competent and mature admin)) posted in here

the posts of your very own team show an attitude most of us dont want to see in somebody whos going to admin their race ... accept it or change it but dont call others sheeps

I'd say you accept how we admin our servers or you dont. And if you dont stay away. We dont force anyone to come or stay on our server.
And I am not mowning about your name either, Shotglass, u like shooting glass??? Leet speech hin oder her. Plaztik is a funny guy and fünfhundertzehn'N'dreiD ist in meinen augen ein lustiger nick. (is in my eyes a funny nick) falling back to german in extreme situations, sorry)

And the posts of the majority of the users posting in here show an attitude I wouldn't choose as my friends. If you choose it that way, have fun. Enjoy yourself.

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