No, just dont kill them at all.
No, just dont kill them at all.
That made my day.
You still haven't answered the questions for the quotes in my last post directed at you. Are you totally against all killing, or just when it suits your worldview and/or the religious dogma you believe?
He'll be against all killing, unless they are thieves, murderers, rapists, criminals, Muslins, Jews, Catholics, Foreign, American, White, Black, good, bad, evil or overweight.
it is a valid argument
if we start from the assumption that a foetus has full human rights abortion would basically be murder
however not allowing abortions in certain cases of crime would legitimize the crime to a certain extent
so it becomes a question of which crime you give precendece to
Why should government have any say in rather or not a woman wants to reverse a pregnancy even after the foetus has started growing. If the patient and the doctor feel as though it is okay to do what they are going to do why should the government or anybody else for that matter stop them?
The same for gay marriage. Church and state are separte by the Constitution. If somebody with a marrige license marries a gay couple and that couple beleives in their marrage why should the government stop them from being married? I don't even beleive that they should be ableto stop them legally by my reading of the Constitution of the United States.
I never understood why these were even questions of government in the first place
The same for gay marriage. Church and state are separte by the Constitution. If somebody with a marrige license marries a gay couple and that couple beleives in their marrage why should the government stop them from being married? I don't even beleive that they should be ableto stop them legally by my reading of the Constitution of the United States.
I never understood why these were even questions of government in the first place
Remind me again which part of the bible mentions aborting a foetus is wrong; and how many people the bible says were supposedly ordered to be killed by your god?
Stop the press! Your post...it makes sense!
Just moving off the abortion debate ( briefly, I suspect !) have you read the republican rantings blaming brown people for the end of america, makes Mr Hair sound vaguely sane !
“The battle to take over the Republican Party begins today and the failed Republican leadership should resign,” said Richard Viguerie, a top activist and chairman of ConservativeHQ.com.
He said the lesson on Romney’s loss to President Obama on Tuesday is that the GOP must “never again” nominate a “a big government established conservative for president.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo ... mney-vow-to-take-over-gop
And Romney was a liberal since when ?
Out in the land, though, some hard-core conservatives spared no hyberbole in expressing their anguish over Obama’s victory. The political blog for the Cincinnati Enquirer reported that a tea party group in Warren County, Ohio, sent an email Wednesday morning saying “the world mourns the loss of America. Socialists, welfare and unions took over this country yesterday. Today I wear black. The day America died.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/po ... -20121107,0,3211220.story
They're well worth reading for the humor.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, and actually looking at reality, I really suggest that you people in the US read this. This is called budgeting, most of us do it at home. When it fails it's called bankrupcy.
Well, this is what your media don't tell you about the state of the US's finances.
Time to loot another country guys......
http://www.sovereignman.com/ex ... youre-about-to-read-9397/
With the rise of baby boomer entitlements and steady increase in overall debt levels, mandatory spending and interest payments have exploded in recent years. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office predicted in 2010 that the US government’s TOTAL revenue would be exceeded by mandatory spending and interest expense within 15-years.
That’s a scary thought. Except it happened the very next year.
3) In Fiscal Year 2011, the federal government collected $2.303 trillion in tax revenue. Interest on the debt that year totaled $454.4 billion, and mandatory spending totaled $2,025 billion. In sum, mandatory spending plus debt interest totaled $2.479 trillion… exceeding total revenue by $176.4 billion.
For Fiscal Year 2012 which just ended 37 days ago, that shortfall increased 43% to $251.8 billion.
In other words, they could cut the entirety of the Federal Government’s discretionary budget– no more military, SEC, FBI, EPA, TSA, DHS, IRS, etc.– and they would still be in the hole by a quarter of a trillion dollars.
4) Raising taxes won’t help. Since the end of World War II, tax receipts in the US have averaged 17.7% of GDP in a very tight range. The low has been 14.4% of GDP, and the high has been 20.6% of GDP.
If you guys were awake, this would have been what your election was about.
And now, back to abortion.........
And back in Romneys world today......
And in Obama's......
“The battle to take over the Republican Party begins today and the failed Republican leadership should resign,” said Richard Viguerie, a top activist and chairman of ConservativeHQ.com.
He said the lesson on Romney’s loss to President Obama on Tuesday is that the GOP must “never again” nominate a “a big government established conservative for president.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo ... mney-vow-to-take-over-gop
And Romney was a liberal since when ?
Out in the land, though, some hard-core conservatives spared no hyberbole in expressing their anguish over Obama’s victory. The political blog for the Cincinnati Enquirer reported that a tea party group in Warren County, Ohio, sent an email Wednesday morning saying “the world mourns the loss of America. Socialists, welfare and unions took over this country yesterday. Today I wear black. The day America died.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/po ... -20121107,0,3211220.story
They're well worth reading for the humor.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, and actually looking at reality, I really suggest that you people in the US read this. This is called budgeting, most of us do it at home. When it fails it's called bankrupcy.
Well, this is what your media don't tell you about the state of the US's finances.
Time to loot another country guys......
http://www.sovereignman.com/ex ... youre-about-to-read-9397/
With the rise of baby boomer entitlements and steady increase in overall debt levels, mandatory spending and interest payments have exploded in recent years. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office predicted in 2010 that the US government’s TOTAL revenue would be exceeded by mandatory spending and interest expense within 15-years.
That’s a scary thought. Except it happened the very next year.
3) In Fiscal Year 2011, the federal government collected $2.303 trillion in tax revenue. Interest on the debt that year totaled $454.4 billion, and mandatory spending totaled $2,025 billion. In sum, mandatory spending plus debt interest totaled $2.479 trillion… exceeding total revenue by $176.4 billion.
For Fiscal Year 2012 which just ended 37 days ago, that shortfall increased 43% to $251.8 billion.
In other words, they could cut the entirety of the Federal Government’s discretionary budget– no more military, SEC, FBI, EPA, TSA, DHS, IRS, etc.– and they would still be in the hole by a quarter of a trillion dollars.
4) Raising taxes won’t help. Since the end of World War II, tax receipts in the US have averaged 17.7% of GDP in a very tight range. The low has been 14.4% of GDP, and the high has been 20.6% of GDP.
If you guys were awake, this would have been what your election was about.
And now, back to abortion.........
And back in Romneys world today......
And in Obama's......
You want some good retarded Obama viewpoints? Look no further than here: http://fstdt.com/Default.aspx
(unfortunately it uses dynamic pages for everything so I can't link to the specific Obama ones - there's a search function though)
(unfortunately it uses dynamic pages for everything so I can't link to the specific Obama ones - there's a search function though)
Prince William is the anti-christ, now thats a new one:clapclap:
oh god, that site is comedy gold
Quote# 71264
Some things can not be explained by science. Take for example, rainbows. Rainbows are a mystery and you can not touch them, just like god. Despite this fact, they are still there even though there is no scientific explanation for them. So next time you find yourself doubting your faith, think of god as a rainbow. I know that this can be a difficult concept for some of you to grasp. It is just like air you can't see it but you know its there
Dro, Y!A 226 Comments [3/2/2010 2:05:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 341
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Gravity is a theory, not a proven fact.
The effects of gravity can be explained by other theories. An example would be the acceleration theory which asserts the earth is actually moving 'upward' at a constant rate of 1g (9.8m/sec^2). This produces the same effect as "gravity".
See there are different theories for the same phenomena - and none are facts, they are just theories.
oh god, that site is comedy gold
Quote# 71264
Some things can not be explained by science. Take for example, rainbows. Rainbows are a mystery and you can not touch them, just like god. Despite this fact, they are still there even though there is no scientific explanation for them. So next time you find yourself doubting your faith, think of god as a rainbow. I know that this can be a difficult concept for some of you to grasp. It is just like air you can't see it but you know its there
Dro, Y!A 226 Comments [3/2/2010 2:05:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 341
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Gravity is a theory, not a proven fact.
The effects of gravity can be explained by other theories. An example would be the acceleration theory which asserts the earth is actually moving 'upward' at a constant rate of 1g (9.8m/sec^2). This produces the same effect as "gravity".
See there are different theories for the same phenomena - and none are facts, they are just theories.
It would not be murder. All they are doing is removing the foetus from the mothers body, obviously it would die but it's human rights have not been touched.
However forcing the mother to keep the foetus inside her body without her consent would certainly breach human rights.
Seriously tho, we are all f*cked still.
ALSO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... z3OT-8&feature=relmfu
I lol'd
4 more years tho?
Oh, I get it! Because he's black!
That is such a stupid viewpoint though. So let's say your family member gets forcibly raped, yet they have a medical condition (which exists) which means their body can't withstand being pregnant past a certain point, you would be okay with that family member essentially dying a slow, painful death then?
I'll state my point again. Abortion (and other issues) should be looked at on a case by case basis. It has zero to do with religion (I don't follow a Christion God thank you very much), my point is merely that every case is different.
On a related note, you Yanks. Which state(s) are voting on right to die?
Massachusetts did. The measure lost by 2%. I voted for it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new ... suicide-article-1.1198305
I thought that I read there was more than one? Honestly, (and again contreversial) I believe if somebody has a terminal illness, they should be free to end their life and it should not be a crime.
first of all you have a bit of a rainbows and unicorns outlook on how abortions work and secondly you are still actively ending the life of something that may or may not be considered eligible for having human rights
so (assuming a foetus has human rights) if it isnt murder it is at least manslaughter
im getting more of a wigga/vanilla sherbet vibe from that image
thats not the question though its always been legal for someone to end their lifes (or at least free of punishment as its kinda difficult to punish a dead person)
the question is should it be legal for someone else to end the life of someone who wants to die
Yeah. Apparently the Massachusetts proposal had a lot of support initially, but the opposition raised questions over the steps the patients and doctors would have to go through—basically they said it wasn't stringent enough to make sure that the patients were in their right mind in order to be able to consent.
i dont know the legislation in question at all but if thats true (and there is a chance since that is an unusually level headed logical and non fundamentalism based argument against it) that is a very valid reason against it
http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
The Republicans haven't been this disappointed since the rebels blew up their Death Star.
The Republicans haven't been this disappointed since the rebels blew up their Death Star.
Their both the same party, morons...............
Who can say 'Wall Street'
Seen Obama's fireworks display to celebrate getting into power ?
"Not even a full day had passed before newly reelected President Obama ordered another drone strike in Yemen.
A U.S. drone strike targeted a group of al-Qaida militants on the outskirts of the Yemeni capital Sanaa on Wednesday night, killing at least three terrorists, government officials said.
Huffington Post:
A White House spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. If it were a American strike, of course, it would have to have been authorized by Obama.
The drone war violates both domestic and international law, and the Obama administration’s vehement disdain for transparency in government is the only thing keeping it from public and legal scrutiny. Beyond the law, it’s terrorism."
http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/1 ... after-winning-reelection/
I do not support the wars abroad, but i feel that no matter who our presodent is that they would happen anyways
US Elections 2012
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