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Quote from dawesdust_12 :I just realized, don't the clamps tristan sawed off, aren't they removable with a screw driver?

Now where would the fun in that be?

That'd be like saying "Hmm, I need to remove this door from my van, do I take it off with a spanner, or do I blow it off with some C4. I think I'll take it off with a spanner." Just no fun.
Gunn, any pics or vids? Without them your posts are worthless!
Quote from tristancliffe :Shut It. Shut It Now

What Tristy-cliffe? Can you not take the heat? Then you should move to the arctic



[sorta random, I just wanted to call him Tristy-cliffe :P )
Quote from dawesdust_12 :I just realized, don't the clamps tristan sawed off, aren't they removable with a screw driver?

The "hard points" located in the back of the G25 Console are intended to assist the two main "Front Clamps". They will not, and can not hold the Console in place alone. The Main Clamps should aways be used and never removed.

The screws for the Main Clamps cannot be removed without taking the unit fully apart which is the same as DFP (unlike Formula Force GP which you can unscrew the clamp screws and pull the clamps out the bottom). These clamps are "trapped" between the Top and Bottom Case plastic.
No, Tristan on his momo, sawed off the large screw clamp, not the small twisty-clamps, Its well known amongst the forum, so we poke fun at him.

I however will be taking a drill to my desk for the G25... *desk trys to run and hide, but can't move with 2 monitors, PC, wheel, pedals, and my feet on top of the pedal base*
No such desk mods for me..the clamps on my DFP held it there okay, fail to see why the G25 ones will be any different. I don't like peering over the wheel ALL the time

Saw a link to an excellent video on "that other forum", clearly shows the wheel speed, sound (or relative lack thereof), and pedal spring strength compared to a DFP. Worth a look:

http://59.186.253.11/movie/g25review.wmv
Dell is supposed to have wheels in stock. i wont have the money to order a wheel untill next week....
Quote from Rtsbasic :No such desk mods for me..the clamps on my DFP held it there okay, fail to see why the G25 ones will be any different. I don't like peering over the wheel ALL the time

Saw a link to an excellent video on "that other forum", clearly shows the wheel speed, sound (or relative lack thereof), and pedal spring strength compared to a DFP. Worth a look:

http://59.186.253.11/movie/g25review.wmv

That makes it look veeery tempting !!
That video just made me about 300% more desperate for it... Everyone, you can now call me pathetic, Seeing I want this wheel more than I want a girl as of now, once I get it, and the inital 2 weeks of shock wear off, I may return to normality, or hit hyperspace again.
You shouldn't have posted that video. My bank account will not appreciate the consequences.
G25 videos; A new kind of porn
Zoo TV: A new kind of TV.

Watch out, It's very simple.
Oh man that video has made me want one bad!! arrhgfjghsfjghkfsghkjfhgkf BOOM.

Looks so fast too!!

Does it come with full PC drivers or will we need new WingmanTeam software?
Heh, I thought that video might be seen as porn by some of you Had me drooling for a while..

Comes with PC drivers in the box, they're a new version of the Wingman software. Ver 5.0 I think. Looks very similar to the old Wingman ver, which is fine with me because it does the job very well.

Edit: Just read the reply above mine..Razor, when you press the pedals in, do you see the axis for them move in LFS? While assigning them you shouhld be able to see the axis's move realtime on the right. Its possible you still have combined accel/brake enabled as well, you need to turn that off.
Quote from Razor_00 :I just got mine today, woot! its so damn nice..gtr 2 feels so real.
But i cant get LFS working, all the buttons/axis work besides accel/brake/clutch, anyone else with the wheel found this? im using the drivers that come with the wheel, logitech profiler v5. guess that answers your question too robster.

Read my post here on a general tutorial for how-to calibrate your wheel and pedals. This applies to any controller really:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=208205#post208205

EDIT: Oh and I just want to mention that in the last part of that video review, the game this person was playing... I don't know what the hell that was... but it was giving really bad feedback to allow the wheel to spin quickly. FYI, LFS lets the wheel spin VERY fast when it does self-countersteering, and that is thanks to its FF connected properly with the steering physics. Other games are not-so fast, but LFS has very quick movements.... allowing LFS to control the movement completely. If that means anything to some.....
First, I suggest uninstalling all Logitech software, unplug your controller.... restart system... startup installation from the included disc, and when you come to the calibration/detection screen after some install stuff, plug in the controller and WAIT until it installs everything. Then click next, etc etc.

Because it sounds to me like you haven't correctly installed it. All Logitech controllers are like this, you just need to start fresh and reinstall the software, then the hardware. And before you use the Logitech Profiler, use the controller properties window in Game Controllers of Windows... don't confuse it with Profiler just yet .
Looking good Gunn, how are you finding it now that you've had it a short while?
i hope u can buy the shifter lose from the wheel
Quote from Robster230 :Looking good Gunn, how are you finding it now that you've had it a short while?

Oh it feels quite nice. Just the size of the wheel, and the very sturdy feel accounts for a lot of satisfaction. The FFB is the best I've felt. The pedals are great too, but I'm not fully accustomed to them yet, lap times are not quite up to par, but improving.
How do the clamps on the wheel work? Because as the clamps are so far in the front I'm concerned the back of the wheel might lift off on sudden movements...
Do you need to be careful with the stick shifter, or can you use it even during "intense" driving without the fear of breaking it?

Mmmh, I told myself I'm not gonna get one before this MOMO is dead, but boy..
Quote from bbman :How do the clamps on the wheel work? Because as the clamps are so far in the front I'm concerned the back of the wheel might lift off on sudden movements...

Yeah they work perfectly on my desk.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :Do you need to be careful with the stick shifter, or can you use it even during "intense" driving without the fear of breaking it?

No you don't need to treat it too softly at all (but it moves easily anyway), but you might want to make sure it is secure, I would like it to be more so. I found that mine moves a bit upon heavy downshifting. At least with the inclusion of hard mounts Logitech have given enthusiasts a way to attach their own custom mounts or platform.
Kewl, that was really the only thing I was a bit suspect of. Cheers
Sounds good, thanks for the pic and writeup.

Have you ever used the ACT Labs shifter? Wondering how it compares in feel to others on the market.
Quote from Rtsbasic :Sounds good, thanks for the pic and writeup.

Have you ever used the ACT Labs shifter? Wondering how it compares in feel to others on the market.

Sorry mate, I can't provide a comparison with the ACT Labs device. From what I have heard they worked well but did not appreciate even low-level punishment (someone who has one can give better feedback than I). I don't think we will really know the strengths and weaknesses of the G25 shifter until some time has passed and a more appropriate appraisal can be conveyed. It's a case of so far - so good. Perhaps some other G25 users will have different experiences?
Well worth your money then Gunn?

Awesome report. I see myself with one next year.

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