How does one go about adding things to the Race Calendar?

Click on the race calendar, then use the "Add New Event" menu in the top right hand corner.

Cheers for sorting this Vic.

This is smashing, the Clanshells one didn't seem to be getting used by other leagues any more so this is very handy indeed in avoiding conflicts when planning the calendar.

I personally consider Beckys entry in the calendar to be spam. The release of a movie is not an event in my opinon.

Quote from felplacerad :

I personally consider Beckys entry in the calendar to be spam. The release of a movie is not an event in my opinon.

It's a broadcast significant to leagues.
If it were a movie called 'Bouncing UF1s and Crashing FZs', I'd judge differently though.

Sam, its a RACE CALENDAR. Why bloat the calendar with something that is not an event. I consider it to be a particularly sneaky move to make her "event" last past midnight, thus making it show up for two days.

I know but alot of people interested in the races are interested in seeing that broadcast as well. It's RELEVANT.

It's not like it's bogging up the whole list, it's just one small line of text optional for those interested.

I do however think it's on the limit. Anything less relevant will be seen as spam by me.

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Sam, its a RACE CALENDAR. Why bloat the calendar with something that is not an event. I consider it to be a particularly sneaky move to make her "event" last past midnight, thus making it show up for two days.

Let Becky have her moment dude, alot of effort goes into those broadcasts.
Its a bit of extra advertising for an LFS event, how is that not relevant?
I say, live and let live for speed

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Sam, its a RACE CALENDAR. Why bloat the calendar with something that is not an event....

I totally agree with Fel.

Maybe many people are interested in watching the STCC movies and maybe many like to see stats and standings of this or others leagues etc.

But then we can fill the calender also with "The UXRL results are released today" or "The stats of Round 4 of the bla bla league going online today" etc. Because these are all important "events" for some/many people.

Tbh when I check a LFS race/event calendar I want to see racing events. Not release dates of movies, stats,standings,penalties etc.

If you want to know more about a league/cup or whatever then it's up to the people to check out the leagues sub-forum or the website of that league.

I can see it from both angles, so let's talk about it and hammer it out.

What constitutes an "Event"? The release of an STCC broadcast video is, in itself, an event. It's also a League Event. Is it a CALENDAR event? Prolly not

We all have to get up to speed on what the calendar MEANS. I propose we set ourselves some conventions, so that later we can make judgement calls.

At THIS point, of course, there ARE none, and so I think it's unreasonable to point fingers right now.. it's just individual perspectives, and nobody at this point is breaking any rules or conventions.

Alright, everyone's gone quiet (or are eating dinner maybe?) so, how about these recommendations:-

1. The things you should expect to be able to post on the calendar are FUTURE events, rather than current/sudden announcements.
   
2. The minimum period of time to post a future event should be x days (I propose 4).

Other events (e.g. STCC video, LXCC results tables etc) should be announced by thread posts rather than calendar events, UNLESS you can deliver advance notice of these, meeting criteria 1 and 2.

This would allow results and videos to be announced in advance, AND (most importantly - the purpose of the calendar) allow people to subscribe, so that they receive a reminder when the event comes to pass. Say I'm dying to hear when the STCC video is released, but I'm not constantly trawling the forum, I would like to be able to subscribe to be reminded of the video itself being released. But anything less than 4 days, and I would probably find the forum thread when it's announced anyway.

That's my thinkings so far. Anyone else?

I concur.

In the same way we do not allow multiple threads about somebody's work, a thread and a calendar event is unneeded advertising. If people can't be bothered to hunt around forums it's their loss. If you do something really spectacular chances are it will get advertised by word of mouth anyway.

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In the same way we do not allow multiple threads about somebody's work, a thread and a calendar event is unneeded advertising. If people can't be bothered to hunt around forums it's their loss. If you do something really spectacular chances are it will get advertised by word of mouth anyway.

I agree there. I've removed the STCC calendar event. There's a thread about it in the Movies section, and that's sufficient.

I think one calendar covering races and important events (league races, advanced-planned OCC evenings etc) are acceptable usage of the Leagues & Events calendar. With the conventions we've proposed, I don't expect there would be many transgressions into other types of notification/advertising. We'll be able to address those as and when they occur.

I think the birthday calendar is fine as it is.

Hey!

That post was deleted for a reason .

Anyway. It's good that you've set up some guidelines. We'll see what happens.

Bahh! That post was there when I STARTED typing I'm just a slow thinker! LOL! I'll edit my other post accordingly

Quote from Bob Smith :

I concur.

In the same way we do not allow multiple threads about somebody's work, a thread and a calendar event is unneeded advertising.

How do you figure? Users cannot reply to a calendar entry. Thus, the threads are a necessity.

I think Bob's agreeing with you about non-race calendar posts (though I could be wrong). League Events would have threads containing discussion anyway.. and the calendar event would be the date-related marker for that. But things like "sam releast his frist dr1ft vid 2day clik dis link 2 c da thred" calendar events would be roasted pretty quick by one of us.

I see one major but hopefully easily fixed problem with this calendar. It's not viewable if you're not logged in. It would be more helpful to growth of the community if the casual guest users were able to see the LFS league activity at a glance.

To promote this new feature, could its link be put in a brighter color to stand out in the navigation bar?

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Hello fellow pilots.
I would like to propose an idea.
(If there already is something like that please ignore my whole post - and point me towards it please)

Here is the thing, my english isn't stellar or anything like that but i"ll try my best to explain what i mean, right?
Bear with me for a minute while i explain it.

I for one like to race in leagues (even only having LFS for such a short ammount of time now), everything is a lot more organized, people tend to be more on par with each others' times, peaple race a lot more "seriously" and prudently and so on. My kind of racing.

I'm sure a lot of you guys too like to race in some leagues, right?
For the same reasons i think and others more.

Here at the forums we've got a section for leagues and stuff. That's cool.
There are a lot of leagues listed here and there's plenty more which aren't listed and have it's own subforum (here). That's cool too. There ain't enough room for "all" of them, of course.

I'm from Brazil and we just wrapped up our events (brazilian league - www.lfsbr.com) for the year and will be coming back only around march next year.

Now, i'm looking for a league to spend some quality racing time on.
I've looked through some of the subforums (i'm mostly interested on open wheelers, pretty much only the fox and fo8), followed some signature links too, that kind of stuff.

Well, a lot of leagues are already running. Some, it looks like, aren't "active" and others while apparently "active" haven't a date for their next "season".

What i would like to propose is a pretty simple "LFS Leagues' Global Calendar".

I know nothing of "coding" and the like but i guess it would be really easy to do it, on the technical level.

What it would be is a website where "all leagues" (thats the tricky part i guess) announce their seasons, that's all.
Maybe some "stand alone events" too.

What i would like to know is when events (be it full seasons or just "events") of such level ("leagues", as i explained before) are going to take part.

If we had such a website on which the leagues could announce their events my LFS experieance (and i guess a lot others too, right?) would be much better.

What do you guys think? Dumb idea?
Please share your opinions about it and again i'm sorry about my poor english.


Ps: Then if and when we get this website running we could add some filter options (to see what is going to take place on any given month, for cars, kind of event, if it's open to "anyone" or no, etc etc), maybe a subscribe option for updates via e-mail os something. the main idea is to have a place of easy reference to go and find out "everything" which is going to be happening on the lfs leagues' scenario.

The main idea is that. If the event isn't "open to anyone" (a only nationals' pilots league, a "higher class" inside a league cup, anything really) it doesn't matter, it will be listed and then whoever is interested on that league (cars, combos) go to the league's website listed for specific info about that "event" and to see if they can apply or not.

The only "tricky" part would be to get in touch with "all" those leagues' "owners" and get the info from them, but even that shouldn't be a problem, a mere "pilot" could give us the info regarding the event's date, someone else validate the info and bam, there we got another entry on the website.

Ps2: what a bloody large "Ps", eh? hehehe
Just to be clear, again, what i would like to see is just a very simple "listing" about all the upcoming "events", comprising "all" leagues, really. That's all.

i am behind you with your this idea.

Tyreshot - no offense, but that 1.5 page long post of yours is .. well, 1.5 page too much clutter. Please can you consider keeping your posts a bit shorter? Also because it's a tad late to say you agree with something that's already been implemented. Makes you look like a post count raiser, no offense.

sorry for my long post,i will really think one more time when i try to help my dudes.you are really right that i posted too long and i saw that its very bad so i never want to annoy my dear friends so i will be more carefull,thanks.

Quote from felplacerad :

How do you figure? Users cannot reply to a calendar entry. Thus, the threads are a necessity.

Like Sam said, you got the wrong end of the stick there.

What's our stance on team-only events?

Just to say everyone, the calendar is filling up nicely, no obvious abuse yet. Aside from an STCC entry for January 2006 (somebody got the year wrong ) everything looks tidy.

I can't give an ETA but hopefully me and my good friend Misan will have something online within a few weeks. Personally i don't think the forum calendar is much use with regards to the aforementioned idea, as it lacks filters and generally hasn't been designed for the job at hand. As i said though, it could take a while to get to something public, as we are building an entirely new website for our team and for the league that we run.

Thanks, Josh

I disagree, Josh. I think the race calendar is ideally placed on the forum. Here is where it will be seen most, and it's also highly relevent to the Leagues & Events section. I also don't see why it needs to have more functionality than it has now. That said, I've not seen your alternative proposal yet, so I'm not pooh-poohing the idea completely. I just don't perceive the problems you seem to

@ Bob.. Teams probably won't need to use the calendar to remind their members of upcoming races, by and large, but I couldn't say that definitively. If a team finds the forum calendar to be more effective in guaranteeing a grid...

If there are more than 4 events on a particular day, the calendar doesn't try to display them all. It just says "Events (5)" or however many events there are that day. People who want to browse deeper can do so. The argument that the calendar will quickly become cluttered is negated, IMO.

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I disagree, Josh. I think the race calendar is ideally placed on the forum. Here is where it will be seen most, and it's also highly relevent to the Leagues & Events section. I also don't see why it needs to have more functionality than it has now. That said, I've not seen your alternative proposal yet, so I'm not pooh-poohing the idea completely. I just don't perceive the problems you seem to

@ Bob.. Teams probably won't need to use the calendar to remind their members of upcoming races, by and large, but I couldn't say that definitively. If a team finds the forum calendar to be more effective in guaranteeing a grid...

If there are more than 4 events on a particular day, the calendar doesn't try to display them all. It just says "Events (5)" or however many events there are that day. People who want to browse deeper can do so. The argument that the calendar will quickly become cluttered is negated, IMO.

Imho, the calendar is cluttered if it shows tons of useless information. Those filters sound pretty good. After all, I'm only interested to know when the races of my own leagues are, not interest to see _all_ the league dates and time. Also showing the time next to the event name on the day field would be great.

With user definable filters and maybe subscritions I mentieoned before you wouldn't have the problem of clutter because everyone could just choose the stuff he/she wants to see. Now you have to look through a lot of stuff, which makes the calendar look a a bit cluttered