I can see where others are coming from. Playing LFS for a year now and i thought it would of been alot further along than it is. yea they where 30 test patches but most of them seem to correct bugs and trivial stuff. the fact that the devs don't really say what there working on there site dosent help. I guess most are just fustrated because they know LFS has alot of potencial and it dosent seem to be fulfilling it.
lalathesortofgood, test patches are meant to fix trivial things, I guess it's why they're called "test patches" Gunn made a good point before, when I suggested the same thing about informing visitors to the official site about test patch progress (which you would have seen if you'd read page 1 ):
I'll also choose to play the old "3-man dev team" card in conjunction with the "other indie game communities wish they had half the developer involvement & contact that we have" spiel. We get more contact, more content and more updates than games with dev teams ten times the size of Scavier. I'll also happily argue that the quality of what we get and what we have in LFS so far, even in its current alpha stage, is far higher than what most larger studios release as complete products. I just don't understand why people expect things to happen so quickly
Besides, it's the holiday season and people are starting to wind down and chill out. Some of us LFS'ers should do the same
Scawen's explained his motivation behind what he is doing now here.
Unless you have something new to add to that, please don't repeat all that, kthxbai. Firstly 95% of the time Scawen has spent on LFS since April has been pretty much must-do things. The Vista compatability was undeniably necessary. The auto-updater which is on its way is a good thing, the sound improvements too. Secondly, all the little compatible stuff HAS to be done at some point, so why not take a deep breath, get it done and in the remaining 5% of the time in-between the bigger stuff NOW, rather than being distracted by it when doing core development, get a solid compatible patch out there and get working on physics/sound/AI/whatever else?
how is vista compatibility and a new sound system trivial ?
and even in its current underdeveloped state lfs is the most complete sim with the most bang for each of those 24 bucks (which really isnt much compared to other sims)
and dont forget those 24 quid not only buy you lfs in its current state your also will get tons of fixes weather updated graphics etc further down the line
personally id start worrying about lfs if its starting to fall behind .... but currently its the clear leader of the pack and constantly pulling away
Why not give Scavier a break and let them do their thing? Why must these bloody threads keep popping up? This isn't a netKar-type situation FFS. The way I see it we're very well looked after. The product we have is a world-beater and leader in its genre, even as a WIP. Can we not just enjoy it and be a little patient - dare I say a little adult - about its progress? What's the damn hurry anyway? Not enough other games on the market?
Suggestion: In future, if any of you have a beef with how the devs are doing their work, PM them directly and quit polluting the forum over and over again with this bullshit. Please.
I like how in LFS forums people who even slightly question the way LFS is done are instantly labeled moaners and whiners. It looks like the people here on lfsforum are starting to think that nothing can beat LFS. Ever. There are some good stuff coming in near future. LFS is the best sim atm. but is it tomorrow? Is LFS so good because the others are so bad or is LFS so good itself?
After all, finding a new favourite sim may not take longer than the installation and creating new shortcuts takes
I'm not one-eyed about this game and I sure won't kid myself that it's perfect - I'm a long-time GPL fanboy, flaws and all - but I know how good LFS players have got it as far as dev contact and stuff goes. These threads rub me the wrong way and two of them just popped up within a couple of days of each other. I don't get what the hurry is, that's all GPL'ers have to wait 2 years or more between announcement of a mod and its completion and release. Tracks can take just as long. Maybe we in GPL-land have more patience than others
LFS is progressing nicely and that's all that matters imho. It might not be the best sim tomorrow, but who cares as long as you enjoy it? To many people, GPL passed its use-by date years ago, yet it continues to attract new players and people can't stop making tracks & mods for it (release of the Barcelona Montjuich circuit is imminent). I suppose I just want it explained to me why the devs should hurry up, or whatever it is people want them to do. Would you like it done quickly or done properly?