Little problem here, I downloaded LFS S2W .exe version from LFS main page and did try to install to this brand new Vista laptop, good old error message that says that archive is not supported archive pops up, I don't have 7zip installed and I have tried antivirus on and off.

Also I have tested running file with admin and in XP compatible mode, but no any help.

Maybe some compatibility problem with 7zip self extracting files and Vista?

I'm sure Vista does not come with support for 7-Zip compressed archives. Install 7-Zip sounds like the logicl thing to try, assuming it works on Vista.

Install WinRar which supports 7z files http://www.rarlab.com/otherfmt.htm and open the exe file as an archive there (right click on the file > Open with WinRar).
Then you can manually extract it wherever you want to.

Succumbed to the darkside I see. Yeh I use winrar for everything and no problems. I always prefer downloading an actual zip file rather than a self extracting exe.

Well, there is no .zip download, only .exe and as it is self extracting archive I would assume that it would uncompress itself in Vista as there is Vista support in LFS.

I can easily drag my LFS folder from my desktop machine to laptop and run it, but how about majority of people with less computer know how that have bought new gaming rig and that are interested from LFS, do they have enough interest to try to find out how to get game to work or do they move on?

Thing should be fixed so it would be possible to install game to Vista as it is to XP, so there would not be loss of customers because of such silly thing.

I really am not going to play LFS with laptop, did just test if it would run it, laptop is for work and my other machine does all fun stuff.

Btw, Vista sucks big time, laptop is powerful but still everything happens at slow motion, also Vista likes to crash and also Office 2003 programs do crash a lot and it is not only this machine but there is quite few of similar I use, it is like using windows 3.1 with 386sx again, even there is loads of ram and cpu power

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Btw, Vista sucks big time, laptop is powerful but still everything happens at slow motion, also Vista likes to crash and also Office 2003 programs do crash a lot and it is not only this machine but there is quite few of similar I use, it is like using windows 3.1 with 386sx again, even there is loads of ram and cpu power

you are not the one who realized that .
I would call Vista aka Millenium II

Quote from JTbo :

Well, there is no .zip download, only .exe and as it is self extracting archive I would assume that it would uncompress itself in Vista as there is Vista support in LFS.

As you said it might be an exe file but still it's an archive and WinRar can open it so you could follow my instructions of the previous post.

About your Vista comments I agree with all of them. Surely LFS should work out of the box in Vista as it does in XP, since although they suck at the moment a developer simply can't ignore them

Quote from KMSpeed :

As you said it might be an exe file but still it's an archive and WinRar can open it so you could follow my instructions of the previous post.

About your Vista comments I agree with all of them. Surely LFS should work out of the box in Vista as it does in XP, since although they suck at the moment a developer simply can't ignore them

Yes, that is the point actually, if we look average Joe that downloads .exe archive and tries to install LFS to his Vista machine, it is possible that he can't get it installed and average Joe probably is not going to look solution from forums or trying winrar, he just deletes and forgets it. All new computers that come with windows do come with Vista now, so it should work in Vista.
This naturally will harm sales and reputation (which again will harm more sales) etc. and at least I would rate this as priority problem that should be fixed asap if it would be my business

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Btw, Vista sucks big time, laptop is powerful but still everything happens at slow motion, also Vista likes to crash and also Office 2003 programs do crash a lot and it is not only this machine but there is quite few of similar I use, it is like using windows 3.1 with 386sx again, even there is loads of ram and cpu power

I feel your pain I bought my wife a new top end notebook recently and it came with vista as well After the first 15 minutes of use I swore I'd format the hard drive and install XP Just got to get the time to do it now

works fine here on Vista ultimate...all issues with Vista sorted in patch U

I don't get why everyone badmouths vista. I had a custom comp built for me by a friend and he wanted to put vista home premium on it. I was iffy because of all the bad stuff I heard about it but I have not experianced any problems with it so far. Steam and CS:S work fine, lfs works fine, everything is great. Also, it's way faster than my old pc. I guess most of that is attributed to the better parts in this one, but still, I have no lag whatsoever.

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

you are not the one who realized that .
I would call Vista aka Millenium II

WAhhahahha!!!!
You still got the best jokes m8

Quote from GkillaC :

I don't get why everyone badmouths vista. I had a custom comp built for me by a friend and he wanted to put vista home premium on it. I was iffy because of all the bad stuff I heard about it but I have not experianced any problems with it so far. Steam and CS:S work fine, lfs works fine, everything is great. Also, it's way faster than my old pc. I guess most of that is attributed to the better parts in this one, but still, I have no lag whatsoever.

Then you are a lucky person

If you have a new PC for Vista it will be faster than your old one. But reformat and put XP in place and it will be even faster and also eat far far less ram while idle, leaving more for you to use.

There are a number of documents you should read. A good one came out of Auckland Uni and looked at the DRM effects of Vista on everything. Many many companies are fighting with Vista because of the issues it causes.

Also read up on Trusted Computing! (This has nothing to do with security, the only person not trusted is YOU )

Dell have taken the VERY strange step of allowing people to still purchase an old OS again (XP) after Vista released. This is a HUGE signal that things are not right. They are also still unable to release their top end machine running Vista because the drivers are not there for the GFX cards to allow the machine to get the Vista Logo.

The term MEII is becoming more common in relation to Vista around the wibbly web.

Hardware sales are still dropping even after a new OS that demands big hardware came out. MS have announced record sales for the 1/4 BUT actually changed their accounting practices so they could defer income to this 1/4 to hide problems they could see coming.

The list goes on and on and on.

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i have a lltl question of vista. when u start your pc say start vista or use erlier versions i never try earlier versions wt happened ( its cuz i want to go back to XP cuz i cant use ay mod or program with vistashit =() and i dont want to loose anithing

I honestly can't get what is the question in this?

Yesterday, I started laptop, opened Firefox and browsed forums for a little moment, then Firefox stopped responding, tried to get task manager up and bloody Vista froze completely, again kept 5sec power button pressed and restarting.

LFS runs pretty badly in it, with all minimum it is dropping to 20fps at BL GP start/finish line, Radeon 1100 something it has, don't know if it should be any faster, but performance is similar to my Linux box that has 800Mhz duron and 9600 radeon without pro, laptop has more than double amount memory and 4 times cpu power compared to linux box, also there should not be bad gfx card drivers and wine emulation slowing it down

But where to buy XP licenses today?

I'm particularly mad at Microsoft because RC1 worked great on my hardware, but RC2 ran like shit, and they chose RC2 as the release :@

Right click, and select Run as Administrator and it works.

Vista does not suck, it is actually very nice but a completely different OS, and will soon be much better and XP and is already more secure and more reliable.

Only downsides of Vista are the unsupported third party hardware companies that do not update their software to be compatible with Vista. So if you have no hardware to worry about, there is nothing to worry about.

My notebook runs LFS amazingly, 2.0 Ghz core 2 duo, Ati mobile X1400, and online I easily achieve over 120 FPS, at a resolution of 1440x900. While my 2.0Ghz P4 Nvidia Geforce 5600 online gets an average of 60 FPS, at a resolution of 1024x768.
No AA\AF on either for FPS reasons.

Quote from XCNuse :

Vista does not suck, it is actually very nice but a completely different OS, and will soon be much better and XP and is already more secure and more reliable.

and that told you who that its more secure? Microsoft?

The included firewall and other stuff was already tested and failed to pass these special tests.The 3rd party and even free programs passed and got better rated so what make Vista more secure?I would really like to hear from you how.

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and that told you who that its more secure? Microsoft?

The included firewall and other stuff was already tested and failed to pass these special tests.The 3rd party and even free programs passed and got better rated so what make Vista more secure?I would really like to hear from you how.

Yeah, I'm getting blue screens every now and then, sometimes lockups when starting etc. Also many eyecandy stuff are making working more difficult, for example copying file to another folder by dragging it to folder in tree view, that huge graphical eye candy blocks view and makes copying much slower process.

Also some easy to use cd-writing thing is causing lot of problems as sometimes computer recognizes cd to be RW that needs to be erased, even it is factory made cd. However if I launch XP that I have installed in VM-ware server cd works fine. Lot of bloatware in vista also, makes it sluggish without offering any real gain. Search is better, but that's about it.

.zip download should be offered, that is best solution to problem, imo.

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

and that told you who that its more secure? Microsoft?

The included firewall and other stuff was already tested and failed to pass these special tests.The 3rd party and even free programs passed and got better rated so what make Vista more secure?I would really like to hear from you how.

Does it really matter? This thread is about installing LFS on a Vista platform and I said how, and that is all that matters at this point.

If you're so worried about Vista not being secure enough, then wait for SP1.

XCnuse,

It seems your are failing to see the M$ is trying to make virtually Vista more secure then it really is and I bet SP1 will not make it better.The intergrated firewall,antivir or what ever are piece of crap.Everybody who knows good about computers just turn it off and install the thirdparty programs.Even some free one are better so what we really pay Microsoft for

Microsoft is making poitns that the intergated things make the Vista more secure product which is not really true.I feel bad that guys like you rely on the Microsoft misinformations.

Yeh,I went of topic because I couldnt resist with your statement about Vista being more secure.I have been testing Vista and with the confusing new look and bloody memory requirements I am failing to see what it brings more over the XP.Maybe its just me.

Sorry for the offtopic.

I've been running Vista Ultimate for a couple months now on a relatively ancient machine and haven't had any of the problems you're talking about. This is an AMD Sempron 3100, 1GB RAM, and a GeForce 5900FX 256MB APG card. My system feels just as fast (lol) as before, and I like the Vista interface so much more that I have no reason to go back.

For one thing, I've never installed 7zip but somehow a fresh install of LFS from the original archives and all the test patches have never gone awry. The only archive software I have installed is WinRAR, but I'm not sure that has anything to do with self-extracting archives? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but isn't the whole point of self-extracting archives the fact that you don't need a particular decompression software to extract it?

I have encounted one real problem however, but it's basically due to hardware vendors not creating new drivers for olllld hardware. My Sony Clie palm pilot won't sync with Vista, and I don't think nVidia is planning on updating drivers for my old card. So that kinda sucks.

But yeah, my audio production software and hardware works, LFS works, and I like the look and feel of the OS better than XP so I don't know what more I could ask for. Wish I could tell you how to fix your particular problems, but I haven't experienced them, so But it seems to me that most of the negativity is just so much propaganda.

And "confusing new look?" Elaborate?

I have Kubuntu 6.10 (7.04 as soon as I will find time to install and setup it).

Any guru made it run under linux already, or no success so far?
I was quite addicted to demo of LFS when I had windows at hand, especially now after reading about false starts in patch X I miss the game a lot .

Best "feeling" sim I ever played.

Quote from Ped7g :

I have Kubuntu 6.10 (7.04 as soon as I will find time to install and setup it).

Any guru made it run under linux already, or no success so far?
I was quite addicted to demo of LFS when I had windows at hand, especially now after reading about false starts in patch X I miss the game a lot .

Best "feeling" sim I ever played.

Try that search function, type Linux into it and you will get few good threads of reading, it is possible to do, all documentation you need is in those threads

I have been into computers since windows 3.1 and the only comment I have to make on the whole vista sucks topic is that it was the same way with every introduction of all new versions of windows. XP was hated badly when it first came out and now people would rather stick with it as to move to vista. I forsee the same thing happening with vista. Just give it time. I am running vista ultimate right now, and with only a turion 64x2 1.6 g and 1g of ram and a radeon 1100 I am running LFS with no problem and at an average of 60fps with everything all the way up aside from AA. I dont use AA on this machine due to the poor graphics card, vista works great otherwise. This is not an argument to say others are wrong for hating Vista though. It is only my opinion

Quote from Flyingcorndogus :

I have been into computers since windows 3.1 and the only comment I have to make on the whole vista sucks topic is that it was the same way with every introduction of all new versions of windows. XP was hated badly when it first came out and now people would rather stick with it as to move to vista. I forsee the same thing happening with vista. Just give it time.

Agreed completely.