The turdwagon(s) are the most popular cars in LFS, no? Furthermore most people drive the FWD turdwagon.
I bet the Solstice might even be a little faster than the XRG.
The turdwagon(s) are the most popular cars in LFS, no? Furthermore most people drive the FWD turdwagon.
I bet the Solstice might even be a little faster than the XRG.
This thread is huge and didn’t read all pages, but there are two points on Intrepid's post below that I couldn’t disagree more…
In my opinion if iRacing is successful, and I have no doubts it will be, Simracing won’t be in trouble at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. iRacing will start by gaining critical mass amongst simracers, but then will appeal to different markets and bring many new persons to our hobby, indirectly benefiting LFS. Of course, that is assuming LFS keeps developing, but as someone who’s around since version 0.1, I have big faith in Scavier. Scawen is a very smart man and I think he knows what needs to be done.
I agree that it’s inevitable that a portion of the most serious simracers jump from their current sims to iRacing, but simultaneously there will be an influx of new blood to the genre. As iRacing grows, showing its qualities and financial muscle, many more will be open to the idea of racing sims. Most of the younger persons don’t know, but in the early 90’s racing sims were big. Nowadays we have no airtime, but for instance F1GP was a hit; I remember magazines having previews, reviews, cover honours, and even TV shows showing it side by side with other top-sellers. There’s no real reason for our genre to be a niche.
Well, except one… profitability. And this is one of the things I’m more excited about. Hopefully iRacing will help change mentalities and make other developers sell their work at a more reasonable price. I said it many times before, and will keep doing so: LFS price is ridiculously low. Simracing stopped being attractive to the bigger developers because a sim can provide many hundreds of hours of entertainment, unlike most games, and that lead us to a swamp where the revenues were small.
It can be argued iRacing prices are high, but 8 euros per month is, what, 2 packs of cigarettes? A few beers? I look to my brother and he buys FIFA and Pro Evo every year, with a quite high price tag, and I sure drive more hours than he plays football. Paying for extra cars and tracks can be considered steep, and personally I’d prefer to pay a higher subscription than buying separate, but when I think it’s a one-time-payment, it’s reasonable. At least I won’t be paying for the same stadiums and players over and over, year after year. And well, I'm so slow I'm not even sure if I'd need to spend my 60 dollars bonus. lol
The service was designed to be noob friendly. While not simple to understand everything in a few hours, it’s easy to start. I’m actually very happy there’s no demo. We all know how the LFS demo is. Most persons trying it probably don’t have a great feeling about what we do. Demo’ing a service where the focus is on mutual respect and serious competition would be even more absurd. To try it for a few hours would only show the qualities (or lack of) of the sim, not of the service as a whole.
Regarding numbers, dunno what are iRacing expectations except their obsession with providing top quality in every field, but I’m happy the growth is programmed to be gradual. The last thing I want is to see wreckers ruining my experience. For that, only a very careful scrutiny of who is doing what works, and a typical launch would be a disaster. Hope LFS by S3 gets a stricter policy regarding that. Cruisers and drifters are bad enough already even when restricted to their servers, but wreckers deserve a very special place in Hell. I’d help carrying the wood to keep them warm.
In my opinion if iRacing is successful, and I have no doubts it will be, Simracing won’t be in trouble at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. iRacing will start by gaining critical mass amongst simracers, but then will appeal to different markets and bring many new persons to our hobby, indirectly benefiting LFS. Of course, that is assuming LFS keeps developing, but as someone who’s around since version 0.1, I have big faith in Scavier. Scawen is a very smart man and I think he knows what needs to be done.
I agree that it’s inevitable that a portion of the most serious simracers jump from their current sims to iRacing, but simultaneously there will be an influx of new blood to the genre. As iRacing grows, showing its qualities and financial muscle, many more will be open to the idea of racing sims. Most of the younger persons don’t know, but in the early 90’s racing sims were big. Nowadays we have no airtime, but for instance F1GP was a hit; I remember magazines having previews, reviews, cover honours, and even TV shows showing it side by side with other top-sellers. There’s no real reason for our genre to be a niche.
Well, except one… profitability. And this is one of the things I’m more excited about. Hopefully iRacing will help change mentalities and make other developers sell their work at a more reasonable price. I said it many times before, and will keep doing so: LFS price is ridiculously low. Simracing stopped being attractive to the bigger developers because a sim can provide many hundreds of hours of entertainment, unlike most games, and that lead us to a swamp where the revenues were small.
It can be argued iRacing prices are high, but 8 euros per month is, what, 2 packs of cigarettes? A few beers? I look to my brother and he buys FIFA and Pro Evo every year, with a quite high price tag, and I sure drive more hours than he plays football. Paying for extra cars and tracks can be considered steep, and personally I’d prefer to pay a higher subscription than buying separate, but when I think it’s a one-time-payment, it’s reasonable. At least I won’t be paying for the same stadiums and players over and over, year after year. And well, I'm so slow I'm not even sure if I'd need to spend my 60 dollars bonus. lol
The service was designed to be noob friendly. While not simple to understand everything in a few hours, it’s easy to start. I’m actually very happy there’s no demo. We all know how the LFS demo is. Most persons trying it probably don’t have a great feeling about what we do. Demo’ing a service where the focus is on mutual respect and serious competition would be even more absurd. To try it for a few hours would only show the qualities (or lack of) of the sim, not of the service as a whole.
Regarding numbers, dunno what are iRacing expectations except their obsession with providing top quality in every field, but I’m happy the growth is programmed to be gradual. The last thing I want is to see wreckers ruining my experience. For that, only a very careful scrutiny of who is doing what works, and a typical launch would be a disaster. Hope LFS by S3 gets a stricter policy regarding that. Cruisers and drifters are bad enough already even when restricted to their servers, but wreckers deserve a very special place in Hell. I’d help carrying the wood to keep them warm.
Only for all the demo-racers who haven't got anything else to choose...
So contentwise, iRacing is equivalent to the LfS Demo (supposedly with better physics), just that even the demo costs money and everything on top of that costs extra...
Last time I checked, LFS demo didn't have Laguna Seca.
I won't be buying it. At least not for a year or two (or however long it takes for them to release a demo, or someone to hack an offline demo together for me to try for free).
I really don't see the fuss to be honest. I've yet to see or read anything that makes me want it - the good stuff is almost certainly over-hyped because it's new, and the bad stuff sounds terrible.
I really don't see the fuss to be honest. I've yet to see or read anything that makes me want it - the good stuff is almost certainly over-hyped because it's new, and the bad stuff sounds terrible.
So? Did you fail to make a point or do you just write what goes through your head?
It is about 12 times the price (assuming you race a good sim for 3 years) to race with one car and four tracks (assuming you don't like turning left) compared with LFS which gives 18 cars, 7 tracks and freedom to race with who you want to when you want to in whatever kind of racing you want.
From what I've read, it's only the safety rating that determines advancement to the next license. When you got to the next license you'd be racing (safely) against other slow guys.
It can have 100 cars and tracks but it wont change the fact the graphics are 5 years old, sounds are crap and it doesnt have real content. I guess someone people like Mcdonalds and others like restaurants. Depends on what standard your after.
I prefer to Buy Burger from Burgerking.
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http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... d=456419&d=1212740316
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... d=456675&d=1212999932
i think even a mcdonalds drive through clerk will laugh at you if you pull up in a solstice
That's a pretty dodgy comparison, if you ask me. If anything, LFS is the reputable corner cafe where everyone knows you, the food is cheap and wholesome and the atmosphere is (usually) great. iRacing is the new place in town, where the food is apparently very good but the servings are seemingly too small for what you pay, and you have to book ahead but can't be guarunteed a decent seat. Possibly a good recommendation for the occasional fun night out when you want to indulge yourself, but too expensive to do every month.
The point you made about iRacing's content is bullshit. So was your "comeback", btw--neither sharp nor humorous. I hope this post is clearer than the previous one.
No, I just used a swear acronym!
Actually, you can't prove what the 'F' stood for anyway, so you'll have to accept it when I arbitrarily tell you it meant "fruit".
Heh it's more about attitudes than words anyway I think, afterall words communicate ideas and therefore the words themselves are somewhat moot; being rather a means to an end. IMO of course.
Could be wrong, don't you get to use the single player test mode on other things? I thought you were only restricted to racing with what you "own", and that testing was not so. Could be wrong, don't care, I'll still be trying it out.
Wow, a car without a black void of an undercarriage... it's like an epiphany!
3 cars, one track against 2 cars and (really) two tracks... I can see where I bullshit everyone about the joys that are iRacing, yes...
Is that another crappy Pontiac?
CTRA Race 1 does seem to be the most popular server of all time.
Anyway, I'm not disagreeing. I dislike iRacing's pricing scheme as well. It's the principle behind it all.
What you don't realize is that in real life, there's a Solstice-sized Burmese tiger trap at that very spot of the grass.
I love this thread :lovies3d:(goes hiding before some mad guy from up north interprets my post and shows up at my door with an axe...)
You forgot few things. Most of the time the LFS cafe is filled with drifters and cruisers, racers are almost a minority. Sometimes when the cafe is filled up with people, a tiny touch with other person will get you thrown out. The cafe environment is a bit dull and the chairs are mostly uncomfotable. Service is great but when's the last time you saw the chef?
And all but four of the cars in the parking lot of the LFS Cafe are imaginary. At the iracing cafe, for some reason, there are only Solstices. (or is that Solstii?)
www.iracing.com, intro and new site
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The imaginery bit doesn't concern me the slightest. Heh, true about the solstices
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Soo, is it possible to get into the skip barber car racing in 4-5 days or was that just the way it was in the beta?
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So a dual-core processor is required?
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The imaginery bit doesn't concern me the slightest. Heh, true about the solstices
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Soo, is it possible to get into the skip barber car racing in 4-5 days or was that just the way it was in the beta?
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So a dual-core processor is required?
You´re wrong... There's another car at the IRacing Cafe... It looks like an old car, but I'm not quite sure because it just keeps going round and round the cafe...
Looks very slick and professional. Awesome.
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