Added the 64mb vista and updated the prices.

http://www.ebuyer.com/search/? ... k+edition&x=0&y=0
this is the only black edition amd processor from ebuyer.

Im only going for amd and things from ebuyer. I dont want to have to to register on lots of different sites. And the card i had was 3.2Ghz already. Thas plenty.

Im just checking out the graphics card now. Is that card any good compared to a nvidia card?


Edit: What are the cards that are meant to be coming out next month? And what are the price ranges?

The 9850 is the QUAD AMD should have brought out in the first place, it's the only one that can even try and compete with Intel's. And it's the only AMD worth getting if you're looking forward.

Why AMD over Intel?

Quote from garph :

The 9850 is the QUAD AMD should have brought out in the first place, it's the only one that can even try and compete with Intel's. And it's the only AMD worth getting if you're looking forward.

I really dont need a quad core, 4 cores would be crazy, i doubt id even use all of them.

Quote from Jakg :

Why AMD over Intel?

I dunno, ive bene told its cheaper and cooler.
Its personal preference tbh. If you can give me a valid reason why intel is better then amd then ill change lol.



OOOOOOHHH
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143263
Quad core + Amd + Black Edition = Nice quad core thats easily overclockable?

If you don't want a Quad core, you'll be stuck with the top end 6400+ Dual Core from AMD which is on a dead socket, makes more heat than the top end Intel Quad and barely overclocks. Get an E8400 and admitedly you'll spend a little more, but it'll be faster and cooler, and will be faster than anything AMD have on the market that's Dual Core

Hmm fair enough. I edited my last post with a quad core ill most likely get. Just need to upgrade the mobo.

Dyu think my system will be bottlenecked anywhere?
And would there be a point in getting a top of the range card? would it just not run as well as it could on this system?


Edit: I really need a cd/dvd drive.
Im looking but i cant find one thats cd/rw , dvd/rw and lightsribe.

AMD's are cheaper.....and thats about it.

If you have to go AMD then the 9850 is the only choice, the rest are beaten by Intel, just read some reviews of any of the E8xxx series or even the E6750 or E6850 and you'll see no AMD really comes close.

It's always worth getting a top of the range card, for games the graphics card the most important part and is where I'd be looking to spend as much money as I could.

Taking advice is good and I'll take all the info I can get from friends and ppl here but you also need to do some more detailed research for yourself. Read some comparison tests and reviews to get a better idea of what you want and what you're looking for so you can make your own mind up and learn what you're getting and why.

Quote from garph :

AMD's are cheaper.....and thats about it.

If you have to go AMD then the 9850 is the only choice, the rest are beaten by Intel, just read some reviews of any of the E8xxx series or even the E6750 or E6850 and you'll see no AMD really comes close.

It's always worth getting a top of the range card, for games the graphics card the most important part and is where I'd be looking to spend as much money as I could.

Taking advice is good and I'll take all the info I can get from friends and ppl here but you also need to do some more detailed research for yourself. Read some comparison tests and reviews to get a better idea of what you want and what you're looking for so you can make your own mind up and learn what you're getting and why.

Alrighty thanks

Ill check out intel too then. Just need to be careful about my budget, im at about £500 now with everything minus a dvd drive. And ive put in a temporary crappy graphics card. So if the intel makes everything much more pricier then i wont be able to get it. But ill have a look anyways.

Oh ok ill wait for next month for all the new ones to come out then

Quote from Migz :

I dunno, ive bene told its cheaper and cooler.
Its personal preference tbh. If you can give me a valid reason why intel is better then amd then ill change lol.



OOOOOOHHH
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143263
Quad core + Amd + Black Edition = Nice quad core thats easily overclockable?

The AMD 9850 Phenoms are only better than Intel at memory intensive applications. Games being one of them the 9850 sometimes is better than the Q6600 FPS wise, but only on stock speeds...which is why the Q6600 is way better. Even better for gaming is the E8400 for the same price, because most games still can only make use of one core, meaning the higher the single core speed the better, and dual cores are clocked higher then quads.

The black edition simply has a unlocked multiplier, which means it is easier to overclock, but it doesnt mean it is a good overclocker. The Q6600 however is easily overclocked from 2.4Ghz to 2.8-3Ghz on air, which is why it is a better choice.

'Top of the range' as stated will be more than £1000 and not worth it at all. The price curve for good hardware to the best is erm...a very verticle line

I am a bit unsure on your money situation...are you saying you have £700 in total to get the base unit and components (including graphics card)?

i have £750 for the tower.

But what im going to do is spend £400-£500 ish on everything besides the graphics card, and then get a 8600gt for around £50 as a temporary card, then next month when prices change ill see what i can get.


Edit: Also would it be possible to get the harddrive from my old computer and move it over? so i can have a second boot for xp?

Quote from Migz :

Edit: Also would it be possible to get the harddrive from my old computer and move it over? so i can have a second boot for xp?

Yes, I am presuming your hard drive is connected to the motherboard with IDE. So as long as the motherboard you pick has an IDE slot then it will work....providing it is IDE.

You will need to reformat and reinstall XP on it though.

Quote from spacedskunk :

Yes, I am presuming your hard drive is connected to the motherboard with IDE. So as long as the motherboard you pick has an IDE slot then it will work....providing it is IDE.

You will need to reformat and reinstall XP on it though.

Oooh, i dont think the mobo i have is ide. And no clue on the hard drive lol.
Pah xdxd Thanks anyway May just buy a second hard drive.

Bump/Revival

I've selected some parts again , but this time from dabs, i just need your opinion on them.

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=55F2 Processor
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3TM3 Speakers
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=535P Hard Drive
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=55H8 Graphics Card
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4L04 PSU
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=577H Case
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4SQG Motherboard
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4PDL Ram
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4BJF Sound Card
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4XKQ Everything Drive

The main things i need to know are.

1.Is 4gb of ram enough? I was going to go for 8Gb but its VERY expensive, so i thought id only go for it if needed.

2.Is the PSU powerful enough? Or too much, i was told i only need a 500w one, but that was a few months ago, new parts may = more watt usage.

3.Are my speakers going to be used to their full potential with that sound card?
The Signal to noise ratio on the speakers is "93.5 dB, typical 100"
And on the card its about 107 ish, i have no clue what sound to noise ratio means but I'm sure some of you do.

4.Is it pointless getting a graphics card like that? Is it going to be bottle necked by the rest of the computer?

5.And finally, will any part of the computer be bottle necked?

Thank you to anyone who answers my questions

Edit: oh and just in case i was stupid, tell me if im missing anything

Second Edit: Also is there a point getting that case? I only picked it because it has lots of fans and i don't know if my computer would get hot with those parts. It is quite an expensive case though

4 GB of RAM is enough.

The 1200 is a very nice case, but the 900 is cheaper alternative.

I would get a better PSU

I would get a 4870(maybe an x2) over a GTX280

AMD? Bleh - Get an P45 board and an Intel CPU

Why get the Fatal1ty? Just get an XtremeMusic.

What's your budget? I'll try to throw together a build for you?

Are you getting a monitor? Don't forget you'll need Vista x64 for that build (£60 - £65)

Ooh i hadnt noticed there was another version. Ill look that up in a second.

Do you mean a PSU with more watts? or just a different one?

Oh right ok, but the card wont be bottle necked at all on this system right?

Its just personal choice on AMD or Intel's isnt it?

You mean
http://www.dabs.com/productvie ... ationKey=11140,4294959800
That sound card? If so then i've just looked at the specs and it seems great.

My budget is around £1000

Thats how much the current setup costs. Yeah if you can that'd be great.
I need 4 cores, a good graphics card, a sound card that using the speakers to their full pottential and 1TB of Hard Drive space (Sorry if im a little picky)

Nah im not going to get a monitor, i will at some point, just not looking for monitors right now

Yeah i didnt have windows vista in that list at the time because i was still working out what the difference was betwen OEM and retail versions, and working out which vista to pick.
I decided on Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit.

If you can build me that computer then that would be great
I Love Jakg lol.

Why Ultimate? Home premium has all the features you'll ever need.

AMD vs Intel isn't a personal choice - AMD has NOTHING to compare to Intels which run cooler, are cheaper for the performance, go faster and overclock better.

Will try to spec a build up later when "E" has gone home

It sounds cool, come on say it in your head with one of those cinema trailer voices....

Ultimate!!!

Sounds so much better then

Home premium. <-- Sounds a bit gay.

Ooh right, i was told it was just personal choice, and that AMD was acctually cheaper then Intel :|

Haha, her name has permanently changed from "name would be here" to E
Easier to remember i guess.

Btw

It says it has 9 bays, and i can see the bays, but there are fans behind them? How exactly would i put something in the bay if theres a fan there? Or do the fans have to be removed?

It probably means 9 bays as in "a few" CD bays, and a "a few" 3.5" HDD bays and a Floppy bay.

I'll spec something up - will you be overclocking? Will you need RAID? Do you plan on adding a second card later (i.e. SLi / Crossfire? Or SoftTH? Or PhysX?)? Do you plan on doing anything "special" on it? Is quietness important?

I would still go for Vista Home Premium (£60-£65) over Ultimate (£100?).

Quote from Jakg :

It probably means 9 bays as in "a few" CD bays, and a "a few" 3.5" HDD bays and a Floppy bay.

I'll spec something up - will you be overclocking? Will you need RAID? Do you plan on adding a second card later (i.e. SLi / Crossfire? Or SoftTH? Or PhysX?)? Do you plan on doing anything "special" on it? Is quietness important?

I would still go for Vista Home Premium (£60-£65) over Ultimate (£100?).

Oh right, but that still doesnt explain the fact theres fans behind the bays? Unless the things i can put in are all completely flat lol.

I've never over clocked, but i will as long as it doesnt make much more noise(over clock it as far as it can go without needing another fan.)

I dont know what RAID is, but most likely not.
If you mean a second graphics card, then probably not, i dont think there's a point in a second one.

What do you mean "special"?

I use my computer for EVERYTHING
Photo editing, video editing, listening to music, viewing photos, viewing movies, downloading, msn, internet, rendering, game playing, game creating, Streaming, creating flash apps, creating websites. Bassicly anything creative i can get my hands on.

Fine Ill go against the all mighty voice and pick Home premium


Edit:
:| Oh my, i just looked at two processors, both quad cores, but one by Intel and the other my AMD.

Intel processor that costs £285.95 ex vat

AMD Processor that costs £127.65 ex vat

As you can see the Intel one is WAYY more expensive :|

But the Intel one is MUCH faster. The £127 AMD is SLOWER than a £110 Q6600...

Overclocking would need "another fan" (a new heatsink / fan tbh) but would run cooler and quieter because of it (even with a £15 heatsink).

Oh right, then does that mean the two processors i compared arnt in the same league then?

Overclocking + new = quieter? Are you crazy? Or do you mean overclocking with a fan would be cooler and quieter then with overclocking without the fan?

You NEED a "fan" (i say fan, but you need a heatsink AND a fan), however most CPU's come with one. You can buy a cheap replacement (such as the Akasa 965 / Freezer 7 Pro) for around £15, which will be cooler and quieter even when the CPU is moderately overclocked.

Ok i'm speccing atm

Do you need the £200 Z-5500's or did you pick them because they looked cool? If sound quality is important to you then I hope you'll be playing something better than a 128 kb/s MP3 through them...

Ohh i get you. I thought you meant a EXTRA fan, so i thought that the two fans would make alot of noise. Well then an extra fan i shall get, what is a heatsink? I remember watching videos about turning a ps3 into a laptop and it was always saying to not damage the heatsinks, but from what i could see the heatsinks look like little square foam things.

Edit: sorry didnt see your post.
It HAS to be the Z-5500's. Music is a main thing in my life, so i need some of the best/loudest speakers around :P.And most of my music is high bitrate music. And a few flac albums

Freezer 7 Pro:



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