Quote from tristancliffe :

Camaro, Dodge, it makes little difference. American cars, tsssk.
You're okay til you get to a corner. You might think your car(s) are good at cornering, but thats probably because you don't know what good cornering is....

That's not true, they know high banked left corners that don't require braking.

Quote from FPVaaron :

That's not true, they know high banked left corners that don't require braking.

that was an obvious point at nascar? right?

can't have been that obvious, right?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Camaro, Dodge, it makes little difference. American cars, tsssk.
You're okay til you get to a corner. You might think your car(s) are good at cornering, but thats probably because you don't know what good cornering is....

no, theyve just never met a proper corner... <img>

Quote from wheel4hummer :

All it has is a ported throttle body. And, that bmw isnt a 3 series. Its a M3 CSL. No where did I say who was overtaking who. I just was proving my point. Why would someone drive a car on the ring if it handled badly?

but we whre talking about a car that had been set up for the quater mile!

Quote from KajiFox :

Hm. It's diving a bit oddly then, he must be braking. And sorry, but you can't really tell from a photo. The amount of people that kit up a standard coupe (even here in oz where parts are scarce) is insane.
And it might be crazy but it happens a lot more than you might think. Look up some ring-taxi footage if you can find it. Even Top Gear has it's share of naff on the Ring. A diesel Jaguar for instance! And a van!

on a vid of sabine in the m5 taxi, she overtakes a coach!

Quote from ajp71 :

The concept of shoehorning a massive V8 into an extremely heavy bodyshell with the structural rigidity of a potato is to act as a catalyst for global warming.

lol!

Quote from george_tsiros :

guys, guys, guys... quit fooling around with those vtec lamers... to make them quiet down a bit you gotta talk their own language:

...vtec?

pah!
yamaha r6 2k6

you want ridiculous?
110bhp @15K rpm. (that's 185hp per litre. at the wheel. without ram-air.)
+
you want sound?
17.5K rpm redline (car engines wimp out @9K? puh-leez...)
==
you and your vtec's sound -> pwnt

And, besides, even if we stick to car engines, there is nothing... NOTHING like a V6/8/10/12 whizzing

you and your four-bangers...

(forgot the jpg)

ooo i beg to differ my friend Mr. Dennis down at woking surrey will also agree. i know a nice v10 car which will rev to 19,000.....sure just because its a mclarens f1 racer don't stop it being a car!!! lol

Quote from Blowtus :

can't have been that obvious, right?

hahahaha..

Quote from george_tsiros :

guys, guys, guys... quit fooling around with those vtec lamers... to make them quiet down a bit you gotta talk their own language:

...vtec?

pah!
yamaha r6 2k6

you want ridiculous?
110bhp @15K rpm. (that's 185hp per litre. at the wheel. without ram-air.)
+
you want sound?
17.5K rpm redline (car engines wimp out @9K? puh-leez...)
==
you and your vtec's sound -> pwnt

And, besides, even if we stick to car engines, there is nothing... NOTHING like a V6/8/10/12 whizzing

you and your four-bangers...

(forgot the jpg)

i love the VTEC, but you do have a point!

Hmm, my Camaro is a V6, so it's a bit lighter than most, but it still handles like crap. :P On the other hand, my girlfriend's Civic is slow as balls, (yes, with VTec) and also handles like crap. My VW could blow them both away on a road course, and it's damn near as fast as my Camaro in a straight line. But hey, I'm selling my Camaro p.o.s., and my girlfriend's Civic has 385,000 miles and still gets her 35 mpg and that's all she cares about. Although my VW is 22 years old with original engine, it gets me 40 mpg. I had a redneck in a beat up 5.0 mustang scratching his head the other day, just couldnt get past me from stoplight to stoplight. And I'm just starting on the crazyness with my VW- it will soon have roughly 250 ft-lbs of torque and get 50 mpg. :banana:

Brendan
84 VW Scirocco 8v
00 Camaro L36 M49

well i have the luxury of ahving her Civic Type R for the weekend

had the brakes smoking today, glad she has red stuffs and grooved discs!

VW are good at building solid, run for miles engines, but honda are the best at gettin the most out of N/A engines IMO!

lol, you yanks crack me up. try putting your big barges on a track with some of our uk hot hatches. clio 182 cup, RS focus, civic type-r, 106 gti etc etc then they'll show you a thing or two about handling

Quote from Mini_ron_82 :

well i have the luxury of ahving her Civic Type R for the weekend

had the brakes smoking today, glad she has red stuffs and grooved discs!

VW are good at building solid, run for miles engines, but honda are the best at gettin the most out of N/A engines IMO!

agreed, although my 106 gti has the magical n/a 100bhp per litre aswell

And yours isn't standard.

Honda's can be N/A tuned to over 200hp's. And thats not a big effort, just some cam's, manifolds and a good chip.
There is your peugeot starting to fall behind, by miles.

Renault's are one of the few non-american cars I would buy.

renualt? what the heck is that?

Oh my. I'd never touch a renault, there's tonnes of other european cars that i'd much rather would buy. Saab (Oh, that 9-3 SportCombi Aero, 2,8 V6 Turbo, 250 hp standard), Mercedes, Audi, Lamborghini, Ferrari for instance.

The two cars lowest on my european car list is Renault and Fiat.

Renault? Why in the earth would you buy one of them? illepall They haven't really done anything special for uhm, 20 years? They make cheap family cars or small shopping bags for grandmas.

Only thing I personally respect from Renault are the FR2000 class formula cars (aka. FOX in lfs)

Some people think that the pre-riced clios are good. For some reason.

Well they need high NCAP safety ratings, because all they are good for is being crashed and trashed in to bits

Car of the year you say.. you know, they selected Toyota Yaris (iirc) as car of the year over here last year, and does that make me think Toyota Yaris is any better car now? No.

Renault is a boring brand, and unless they make something special in the next 10 years, I'm not changing my opinion. Family cars are for family drivers, I'm not one of them.. yet.

Toyota Yaris is a great car, if you need a shopping bag. Maybe even THE best shoppingbag. The second best is the toyota aygo 1,0 3cyl petrol 68 hp. Drives very well for a car of that price

Do you know the Clio RS 2.0 16v? I guess not, this is not really a kind of boring car. Maybe that is why it is so much used in rally?? héhé

It's front wheel drive isn't it? That makes it automatically boring, aka. grannies shopping bag.

Quote from punkboy80 :

This topic is about vtec honda. Honda civic is also a front wheel drive car , so what are you doing in this topic???

You should look in the mirror. YOU are the one that started babbling about renault's NCAP ratings I don't like french cars, and I'm ending this arguing on my behalf. Sry for offtopic.

ok just for some people who think vtec sucks.... if you have been in a vtec car it may not have been a vtec but a vtec E wich is the economy version. this does not even set the standards for real vtec. but in my opinon yes there will be nothing like the power coming from a supercharged V6 but a 4 cilinder pushing 160bhp (based on VTI) standard aint bad aspecially with the reving allowed. take for instance a 2.0 litre vauxhall cx20 engine thats only giving out 140 bhp (correct me if i am wrong) so i think its amazing.. natrually i love honda's so as i say thats just my opinion.

but i agree in time i think they should add vtec into lfs also superchargers on some cars.

Why the hell would you want to switch from a small-lope camshaft to a very lopey camshaft at a certain RPM? Why not just constantly use that lopey camshaft? It would sound nicer!

variable valve timing and lift electronic control (vtec) or valve technology as u wish, run off your oil pressure sensor regulator, and adjusts lift in ur cam timing to make a car go from 100% --- > 110%

i made a similar engine on lfs
emulating a b16a2 @ 170bhp,, 1600cc change over at 5200rpms redlining @ 8000rpm, okay i bet some sausage is guna bust out all this information saying ur wrong this blah blah, and my luck will be him being a 13yr over weight geek that sucks at drifting in lfs and begs everyone for sets , okay that was a bit much peace