I just want to recommend this really interesting, 7 part series of articles from Newsweek. Apparently they've had reporters following the Clinton, Obama and McCain campaigns from behind the scenes on the condition that their findings weren't released until after the election.
They really make you appreciate just what cluster****s the Clinton and McCain campaigns were, and how well the Obama campaign was run in comparison.
Its not exactly a witch hunt. The certificate of live birth he posted on his campaign site was found to be a forgery, so now Berg (democrat) is trying to find the real one, although I doubt Obama would have decided to come this far knowing it he was ineligible for president. Makes me wonder why he presented a fake in the first place, though.
It actually kind of scary. I used to think you'd need some kind of totalitarian government for political propaganda to be really effective, but the US have certainly proved that wrong haven't they? Not only do a lot of Americans accept propaganda like that without question; they also brag about accepting it as some kind of badge of honour. They actually think they get the real truth through these videos and their e-mail, and that there is some giant left wing conspiracy going on in the mainstream media to hide the "facts".
WOW - Mike & I agree, yes, interesting questions re his real nationality but you need a big stick to stop the black man gettin to be an upperty ******.
Don't expect to see too much in the media unless he stops doing what he's told to do.
Check out his VIP and certain other advisors, that's where the real power is, Obama is just the acceptable face !
As long as monkey boy does what he's told then he keeps a large percentage of the US population in line, mind you, current betting here is that he collects a bullet before McCain dies from a heart attack.
May well be more use dead than alive.
Sorry for the cynical outlook but lets check back in a year and see who's right ?? OK ?
Really what does it matter where he comes from? I think it is pretty hypocritical for someone not born in the US to be able to stand for presidency in a country of immigrants (not that I imagine for a second the democrats would be stupid enough to elect such a candidate).
So one is a white gun slinging hero, not really anything there that convinces me he is in anyway suitable for leading the most powerful country in the world. The other guy is black and is therefore an evil terrorist...
According to Snopes, the story about the forgery is false. More debunking here. Makes me wonder why people would like it to be true, though. Disgruntled Hillary fandom? The conservative vs. liberal culture war? Or plain racism?
I was waching a documentary about Obama and McCain the other day and some of the comments by truckers were amazing (paraphrased):
"Barack? Obama? They don't sound very American to me"
"People seem to have forgotten he's one third terrorist. I mean, 'Hussein', isn't that the dictator who we executed? He [Obama] is a muslim extremist, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't last the first year [suggestive]".
No claim about BO or his heritage will surprise me..
Yea, I hear that kind of garbage every day. All I can do is laugh at those people. It doesnt show anything negative about Obama, It just shows their own ignorance.
Hoiw about that old lady at that McCain rally that called Obama a "Arab". LOL
Somehow I think they're not that ignorant. These statements may sound silly on the surface, but they are ways to say "he ain't one of us" ... without mentioning his skin.
A reporter from CBC interviewed a couple of red-necks from deep into Missouri a few weeks before the election and all they had to say was pretty much this:
"We've been told he's a secret Muslim.";
"He's probably a terrist.";
"This is country-side, this is not the city, you can't expect people in the country-side to vote like people in the city do."
And that stuck me, why can't the people in the country-side vote like the folks in the city? They didn't have any argument to support this thesis, it was just a FACT that if you're in the country-side, you don't vote like you do in the city. I usually don't like to call people ignorant or plainly stupid, but clearly those red-necks are.
I personally blame Fox News.
Oh, and you will see a lot of people in a year or so complaining that there hasn't been enough change. Well, he's not a god, he's just a man. With the current state of that country, there's no way it'll be the same as it was, say, 10 years ago, even after 4 or 8 years. That will be the republican's main argument: he promised change, there hasn't been enough. Well, there's only so much a man can do if the previous gov. screwed up so much the country.
im for him (at least until he figures out that hes a politician and thus can get away with not fulfilling any of his promises) and anyone and i dont find it the least bit offensive
Well for me the slogan "snipers for Obama" is offensive, as it endorses assassinating him. Anyway, they've removed the page now from that site, so I guess it doesn't matter.
oh please as if anyone is going to take a slogan on a coffee mug as a serious suggestion to kill the us president
people have been making light of the (im guessing) fact that we wont see him driving in the back of a convertible through dallas any time soon for as long as hes been running for president
ffs man, We gather you don't like him, yet i still cant recall you giving a decent reason why not. ( i have my suspicions though )
Lets all judge the fella after a couple of years in office shall we? You know, when he's had a little time to try and clean up some of the shit that your beloved leaders have created over the last 8 years.
"Luckily, we would never fall in America for a left-leaning young leader who promises change without asking, 'What change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?'
Would we? "
What a shitty article. so he's comparing Obama to a communist now is he?
I'd imagine any change will do for America right now, and it cant cost your country any more than the last 8 years of Bush rule has, either financially or reputation wise.