You shouldn't worry then, there are only 3 or 4 cases which the Daily Mail get hold of, then they make it seem like a plague of killer muslim terrorbots that run off childrens tears, because that sells papers.
My point is this (Specially for Sam)...Just because somebody says something 11 years ago, doesn't necessarily mean that they have any intention whatsoever of actually DOING it!
So you're taking a couple of glib comments on my profile over several pages of trading arguments in here? That's like... oh I don't know. I suppose it's like reading a couple of bullshit stories in the Mail and taking those as your gospel.
BNP 2008
we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question
Sorry to disappoint you, I NEVER read the Mail...too many big words for a knuckle dragger like me!
As for the Guardian, I wouldn't even wipe my arse with it. The only newspaper I buy is The Oxford Mail...and that is because our local news is rarely covered on 5-Live, which I listen to about 8 hours a day
Nick Eriksen one of their candidates in London (and still full membe of the BNP) was forced to resign his candidacy was after he was exposed for writing offensive, sexist and racist blogs under the name Sir John Bull.
For the record, I am British born, and I hold a British passport....and I am angry at the government for spending a fortune on a pathetic excuse for a war.
but I didnt blow up London or ram raid a Scottish airport.
I really hope non of your family or anyone you care about ever have their lives taken by some one like the above. These are not victims these people (animals) are pure scum. Next you'll be telling me the victims of 911 had it coming to em and the terrorists were the real victims.
1, British born, is that meant to mean something? am i meant to question his motive? To me main thing that makes you british is when some body asks you what you are you say British do you think these arseholes did?
2, If this scum were so angry at the british government for starting an illegal war why dont they get on the next plane to iraq/afghanistan and fight for what they believed in? Instead of being cowards and killing/wounding alot of innocent people.
Ah I see, I picked up on the wrong point. You see, I just wasn't racist enough to see what you where suggesting. I thought you meant 'invaded' by the march, you meant 'invaded' literally because you see immigration as an afront to your sense of nation. Am I right?
So tell me, just why is immigration an invasion? Do they come here, take our jobs, our women, and not pay taxes? I can't quite remember, but seemingly the fear of "they're everywhere" seems to have some evil unexplained connotation that I just do not understand. Even if they really are everywhere, what's the big deal? They're just people, trying to get from A to B through life, just like me, just like you. Ordinary people. The difference is they have moved to another country in search of making a better life for themselves.
Now yes, some of those who come do have criminal tendances, but i've got news for you - we didn't solve our crime problem when we exported it to Australia. Crime is just a part of having a structured society in that some people will operate outside of the conventions.
Some of them, because they arrive with nothing, will be willing to work for less and work hard, because they're trying to put bread on the table. Some British people do this too, because they also have nothing and are willing to work themselves out of poverty.
As for taking our women: Some of theirs are damned fit and i'd go down on them any day. Some are skanky. Well there's great diversity amongst British women too, so no difference there either.
Some of them will at some point need the National Health Service because they've been in an accident, or have fallen ill. Yes we patch them up. Healthcare for all, that was the founding principle. We don't charge tourists either, the only cashier at a British hospital GIVES you money. I'm proud of that. We dont have the best healthcare in the world I know, but it is very good and it is free. That's our way. You might not like it, but at least be proud of it and cherrish it whilst we still have an NHS, believe me, we're a lot better off for healthcare than America is with their privatised system.
Some of them will retain a religion or a faith that is not dominant in this country. Well i'm sorry but the antidisestablishmentarianists have had their way and Church is not seperate from State in the UK, I disagree with it, but we must accept then that if our official religion is to be part of government and culture then we have to accept that other religions have their place too. I am personally NOT of the official faith, or any other, and wish we could do away with all organised religion - but i'll tolerate them, just about, whilst I have too - including the official one.
So yes, we have immigration, it's quite high, and we take in more than most other countries in the world by head count, and as a proportion of our population 5 times more even than America. But is immigration evil?
I argue it is not. These are people, like you and I.
As a concept the only immigration I have ever found hard to stomach is by people who come here and hate us, but in point of fact this is actually very are and limited to just a handful of oddball clerics and a few fundamentalists Muslims since the reign of our former glorious leader the right honourable second coming himself, Christian hard liner Tony Blair. The Muslim Council of Great Britain would do a lot of good for their faith and for immigrants of all creeds if they just disbanded and buggered off instead of pretending they are ligitimate, when really they're just the BNP for Muslims. That's not an immigration issue, that's a political/faith issue. It's easy to confuse the two, but we'd do well to remember we're at war sometimes.
*shrug* I got the stats from the National Statistics office, maybe they dont count illegals on the grounds they shouldnt be here and the Home Office should be removing them?
andybarsblade, in this thread I have witnessed you being racist. It's in writing, you might not see it as racism - as racists rarely do they see it as purely logical and plain fact how could it be unjust? Well in my view it is unjust. So I hardly feel how you are qualified to make this statement, personally. I think you are the least able person to identify what is racism that I have ever personally had a discussion of the subject with.
So you think immigrants make the country worse? I dont know about you, but I think Shotglass raises a valid point about inbreeding! :P
Seriously, I do not think our country is the worse for immigration. Do you? Can you substantiate any point you raise on the subject?
You ARE racist, you've stood up tall and proud and defended xenophobic statements - hell you even make one right here - and yet you still havn't provided any material or substance to your often quite wild claims. Your house isnt about to be turned into an islamic hell hole, this might be insensitive of me, but i'm not sure what the Korahn calls hell anyway.
He was a rubbish exchequer (kept being "prudent" during boom, and started spending lavishly in bust to buy votes). He's a rubbish Prime Minister except now he manages to actually genuinely offend me, and i've never met him. Please dont confuse liberal thinking with support, advocating, or condoning a vote for the labour party. Thank you.
*sigh*. You've not been listening have you? Well you have, but to the rhetoric of a hyptnotic public speaker I think... As we've said all along this thread, and are still saying - back it up with figures. You supported your "78% of inner london schools are ****** war zones and this is bad because I dont know" with a link to a general wiki page on the United Kingdom. As I said before, 78% might be right, I cant find the figure - can you prove it and then please explain to me why it is rellevent or a bad thing? You have not been able to do that, and in any rational sense I should have stopped discussing with you a long time ago.
No, i've always said 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to the peace process in Northern Ireland. It'll be nothing new. Seriously, we're at war, you gotta expect a few bombs on friendly soil now and again.
I think many people in Iraq do expect to get shot. Daily. Either by the crazed religious lunatic with the gun, or by the crazed religious lunatic with the cruise missile.
I've not lied, i've just repeatedly asked you to back up your facts and suggested that immigrants are human beings just like you and me. Your retort is to call them "lies" and still not substantiate your argument.
Yes I have. I was assaulted earlier this year by 3 neo-fascists one of whome was armed.
I still have the weapon if you'd like to see it.
(you might have to think about that one)