"Test the mod in your public version of LFS"

Think you mean local/personal version

Is there an active community: yes, I would say so
Is it as active as it used to be: erm, sadly not, no
Is there an active drift/cruise community: strangely, yes, although I don't personally see the fun of it - I prefer racing
Are there multiple, fun, crowded, pick up and race options: no
Are there scheduled, organised events you can join if you have the time: yes, there are a few and they seem good options with reasonable numbers
Are the physics still the best: in my opinion, yes
Is the VR implementation the best: again, in my opinion, yes
Are the graphics the best: no, but I value physics over eye candy
Are the sounds the best: no, but I value physics over ear candy
Do I play LFS as much as the other sims I own: no*
What the hell is that all about: search me!

* technically, in the last few weeks, the answer to this is yes, but over the last few years, its no.

Quote from k_badam :

A long way to go? looks completed to me

LOL

Its fun tinkering in the editor

Not sure how far I'll ever get with this, but in the interests of proving its all my work (which will probably be blatantly obvious by how rubbish it will only ever be) here is a thread for it.

I did use a side image found on google to draw the main outline and then I've found a few models for reference, but ultimately it will be my model. Its the wrong size already and I spent way longer than I should have done working out how to move the wheels inwards to shorten the wheelbase.

Clearly a loooong way to go yet

WOW. Bravo! Clean, fresh and super cool.

Yep, I saw that thread, but it was written after my post (although I admit the Scawen post regarding shadows is a lot older and my extensive searching missed that one).

Just thought it was worth raising, especially as Westhill is being worked on right now and if it was a track issue - although, perhaps it isn't.

Last edited by t1ger, Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:41.

Is it just me, or are three quarters of the pits at Westhill in a strange shadow when you select Cloudy Afternoon? Just tried it with 0.6E and 0.6F (and a 0.5Z28 copy I had lying around) and it is the same.

Tried it using 0.6E on my Acer laptop too, and its also the same.

Viewed from high up, I don't see what it could reasonably be the shadow from, so it looks like a bug.

Might be fixed in new Westhill, but I thought I'd raise it now.

Another year is upon us and, after a slower than usual start, we are back with a brand new season! This time we are taking you on a journey through the cars LFS offers, starting with the slowest and slowly working up to the big guns (although, not all the way). The name of the season is The Original LFS League - From Tortoise to Hare.

Join us for the ride of your life and have fun along the way.

The qualifying format will be identical to previous seasons but there is one important difference; the name of our servers have changed. Please note that they are now called:

The Original LFS League 1
The Original LFS League 2
The Original LFS League 3
The Original LFS League Qual

Please use these new server names for qualifying and racing. Also, don't forget to check out the rules and regulations even if you are an OLFSL veteran, just to make sure you have them firmly planted in your heads.

We hope you enjoy the season and can't wait to see you on track!

Qualifying for Event 1 is now officially open!

The OLFSL Team

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Thank you both for the clarification, and it confirms my suspicions that it is just the way it is and not a fault in my code (which I always like to prove ).

Thanks
Tim

First of all, a big thank you for implementing the ISP_HLV packet - I have used it to good effect on our qualifying server so we no longer need to build layouts to stop corner cutting. Instead, all laps just have to be HLVC compliant and it is so easy because people can use hotlapping to perfect their lap before joining our quali server.

Anyway, I also just used it to watch for corner cutting during races (by analysing the replays with ISP_HLV turned on) and I found a strange thing. I am tracking all cars with the MCI packets, and I wanted to know which node the HLV violation was fired so I could trend it to see if they cut the same corner every lap.

The corner in question is node 445 on KY3 (which is the corner coming off the oval back on to the road track where there is a nice chicane (perfect for cutting)). On lap 5 and 6 of the replay for a particular car, the HLV packet fires before the car has actually reached the off track bit. When I get the HLV packet, the car is at node 443, which is actually the middle of the track on the line they have taken. It does then cut the corner at 445, where I would expect the HLV packet to be fired.

Is this something to do with lag? Is the HLV coming from the client and being saved in the replay (maybe?) instead of being generated again by the replay when it is running? If it is, I doubt there is an easy fix, but just wanted to understand the reason if nothing else.

Our servers seem to be back (CP looks good anyway). Slightly too late for our races, but fortunately we managed.

Tim

Can see any of my servers, all showing "unknown" - control panel is working, but can't see my actual servers.

Ticket logged, but posting here for visibility.

Tim

Hi bozo,

On the whole, I like it, but there are some concerns for me.

The first one is that at the moment, the start of the race isn't set in stone exactly. We say, for example, 16:00GMT, but the race might actually start at a few minutes past while we wait for a few stragglers. Using this format, we would have to start the qualifying at a very specific point for it to last exactly five minutes and then the race to start. In one respect this would give more incentive to racers to show up on time, but I see more people saying "please wait for me" and it getting too difficult to suit everyone.

The second problem is that it adds a lot more pressure on us (well me) as the hosts to ensure everything goes well. To stop people pitting is possible with an update to the insim app which we currently use to start races but it is getting more complicated. Definitely possible, but quite hard to ensure every possibility is thought of and covered.

Having said all that, it is a good idea and something I will have a look into for next season as an option - no promises and it will have to be put past the rest of the staff for approval (if I can get it workable in the first place). You never know I might come up with something along these lines which is a compromise on some of the areas - once I start thinking and coding it, I will know more. I doubt it will be any time soon though.

Tim

Hi Dean,

The server you set up for us the other day on 84.45.52.141 has died/gone away/left/emigrated south for some reason.

I have put up a temporary server with the same name for now until the end of today (when our qualifying ends) but we do need a couple of servers for Sundays' race - please?!?

Thanks
Tim

Quali is back on line now. This one isn't dependant upon 500servers, but that doesn't look good for the race this weekend

Tim

Qualifying for Event 2 is now back online

Hi all,

Qualifying is now back up and running on a new 500servers server. Big thanks to Dean (franky500) for getting us back up and running again.

The other servers will follow, but I am confident we will be ready for Sunday's race.

Good luck all!

Tim

Yep, 500servers are down so our servers are down.

I expected some downtime the other week (as posted on the lfs-league.com website) but it never came. I don't think this is the "scheduled" downtime.

Please bear with us, as soon as they are back, the server will be up and running (unless its IP address changes, and then I need to change the insim app first).

Tim

Sorry, didn't notice this thread yesterday, if you post in the "Qualifying System Bugs/requests" thread I will get an email, so best to use that one. As it happens, I did notice and started it again. 500servers are upgrading their servers at the moment, but this will not affect the quali server until after the qualifying deadline.

Tim

Quote from russraine :

Hi Tim,

Thought I'd some some requests - not sure if all are possible or not but worth a shot.

While Quali-ing I would like the following:

In the shift+I menu, and option to see the grid so far. Could be tricky with 100 racers but LFS may have a scroll system in place if there is lots of text - there is in the menu system.

The lap time counter that pops up in the middle of the screen to turn green when quali time has improved - red if it hasn't. Similar to the one in the top right corner but bigger.

Thanks.

Hmm, I had thought of these, and I could go mad on features. Ideally, I want the app as small and as single minded as possible. To this end, I don't really want to add this type of functionality in - KISS! (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) For example, I have started another app (in VB.NET 2010 Express) which tracks your time around a certain area of track (so you can practice a certain corner or series of corners and it can tell you if you were faster or slower than last time and help to improve a little section of track at a time). This will not be added into LFSQual, ever.

Tim

Quote from anttt69 :

Seems that you guys have the power to improve the schedule why not make a few changes? The general feeling is that there is to much open wheel racing. You seem to admit its not great & then do nothing about it.

I said I take the point, I didn't say I agreed with it. We didn't just pick the combos off the top of our heqds randomly, there was thought about what we would like to see and like to race. The schedule is the outcome of this work. If we change it now someone else could say there is too many reverse events, for example and say they want that changing. Were do we stop? So, the schedule will not be amended.

Tim

Only by 2 days. I put the news item on the website on the 20/12/2010.

Tim

If we had put together a schedule that everyone loved, we would have had a small miracle on our hands. As it is, I take the point about too much open wheel action. To be honest, I prefer open wheelers to the GTR classes, so (as I put the schedule together) it favours my choices. The RB4 and RAC are in there, and I really can't get along with either of them, so we all have to take the good with the bad.

Tim

Our account is still showing as "Terminated" - Dean, I have even opened a new ticket, have you seen it? I need them servers "very" soon! Please!

Tim

Well an announcement would have saved me a lot of work searching frantically for another host in time for our next season, but I am genuinely glad you are OK and it wasn't (as I was fearing) something worse.

Our ticket has closed itself again so I will re-open it for visibility.

Thanks
Tim

No it isn't normal, and I suspect something is either drastically not working which is stopping them seeing the support tickets or they are having personal issues which is taking them away from here. When I have had a problem previously it has always been sorted quickly and professionally, so this is clearly something more serious.

I am not going to get angry at Dean/Franky500, no matter what the reason. It is just fortunate that we are not in the position where we need the servers for our league just yet.

Tim