Ya modding sucks, you all need to wake up and smell the coffee. It amazes me how RF is the big comparison. Why not justify your point using another title, say, GPL, or F1C?? Easier to point out a game that sucked from the very beginning instead of looking at anything else. While your stating LFS should not be modded, why not also crusade to have all templates removed from the web, god knows I've gotten some good skins while racing online, but 90% of them are crude, and not up to the LFS standards.