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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Quote from Arklight :Not if you list the addy like this (for instance):

customerservice AT company DOT com

That's how you can cut down on spam emails from outside sources.

That doesn't really helps. With only little programmer knowledge you can still find and gather such email addresses and substitute the AT against the @ and DOT against "." without much problems.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I can't believe that this discussion is still going on. :nut:

Even if the developers would stop any working on it I wouldn't feel betrayed, because LFS is one of the best multiplayer racing games I ever seen. (Well as long as a master server is still managing the games and isn't turned off as EA has done it with NFS Porsche and will probably do soon with NFS UG1.) I also saw many racing games with an pathetic multiplayer mode or no working multiplayer support at all without a third party fan patch or mods.

So I would say I got already enough for the money I paid compared to other games. And it's getting even better as far as the developers find some time to implement and test some new things instead of reading and answering to that pointless discussion.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I like arcade fun racer, like NFS HP2, UG1 or Midnight Club 2. I'm also playing with a gamepad and I'm not going to use a wheel. But in LFS almost all cars are still play- and enjoyable for me compared to GPL or Nascar 2003. However I can't compete with the elite drivers in both worlds.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I agree to Hallen. Unfortunatly I haven't played S1. But if the XRG has even on the very long straight of BLackwood no siginificant advantage resulting out of his better acceleration and top speed, he has almost nothing on passages and tracks with only medium and small straigths.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Well, I'm not graduated in physics but in the manual of an other racing game a played once it was told that FWD cars are easier to control and you can easily keep a higher speed in curves, but the RWD cars have a significant better acceleration out of the curves. Even after buying several horse power increasing items, I was still too slow in my FWD out of the curves in order to take over the RWD on the straight.

If you accelerate, your weight moves partly to the back. So you have more weight and more traction on the rear tyres. That's the reason why RWD cars should accelerate faster out of a curves as a FWD car, even if its horse power to weight ratio is somewhat weaker.

I play very often with XRT against FXO drivers. I'm not a very good driver, but right after the start the XRT is really better than the FXO. But I'm too slow or the FXOs drivers are too fast in corners, so I can't make advantage of the XRT better acceleration. Well, I'm not he greatest driver anyway, so this should be tested by a driver who can handle the XRT and the FXO better than me.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
An AI driver stopped after finishing the race only a few meters behind the start/goal line. I finished about 20 seconds later and crashed with more than 180 kph with my XRT into the AI's MRT. Now it made a take-off like a plane, flying about 50 meters high and around 200 meters far away. )

(Happened on Blackwood reverse on an wonderful sunny evening.)
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Quote from thisnameistaken :Yeah I kinda know what you mean but I can't put my finger on it either. It kinda drives like two different cars depending on how fast you're going. Seems like as soon as the downforce starts making a difference the car goes from wobbly overpowered nuisance to super-trustworthy speed machine instantly.

It's hard to judge how the handling of a Formular car should feel alright because I'm sure not many of us had the chance to make experience with such cars in real life.

But if you need more grip in slow corners you should try more downforce. There is also a wind chanel test in the set up menue, where you can see how much downforce your car produce depending on the speed.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Basically I drive my own race and hope to come good through the first corner. Then I don't care much about the people who are 6 or more seconds faster or slower than me each round.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Quote from al heeley :Which 3, out of interest?

NfS Hot Pursuit 2
Midnight Club 2
Flatout
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Since I installed and played LFS I deinstalled 3 other racing games. So no question who is the king.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
LfS has a luxury problem. Sure, it isn't compareable to the numbers of players of Half-Life, but I know some car racing games, where I would be happy if there were 5-10 drivers online at the same time and only one server running.

Nevertheless I would appreciate it, if there were 2-3 "arcarde style" servers with track rotation (but no car rotation) and short turn races (5-7 laps) running. Allowed should be all cars up to TBO class and maybe the LX4.

I think that would be real fun and would appeal to many newbies, in particular if they used to play arcarde racer the last past years.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Well, the one thing might not exclude the other thing. :woohoo:

Alas I already read in an interview somewhere in the net that Vic has stopped producing new music at time.

But we'll see what happens in the future. :leb:
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Cool. If I visit the Netherlands I'll check out, if Victor is DJ-ing in a nice club.

Has he released any records or CDs or published further songs in the internet? (EDIT: oops, thanks AJS)
Music & Music Addon - Who are the actors?
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I like some of the tracks. In particular I'm interesed in the artist who performed "My Credential". Finest house and club music.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I agree with AndroidXP. At least an automatically log in in the chat would be fine. Then we'll see, whether the chat is more accepted and used or not. If people should do so, we can think about inroducing further features or additional rooms again, if wanted.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I don't know Unreal, but I like the way of combining chat rooms and a game's server list like it has been done in the gamespy client. There you enter at first automatically the chat of a certain game, then you can look for free players in the chat room and talk to them. You can also join a running server.

Due to the huge amount of online players (compared to other racing games) and the high diversification in driver skills and available cars it should work in LfS with more than one chat room, too. That could also help to gather people with simillar interests and skills in certain rooms.

If nowadays with only one chat a pro driver wants to drive a clean race without noobs in the FO8, he has proberply no interest in talking to someone who is new to the game and who wants to try out another track with the XFG. I think many people try to avoid such fruitless discussions and therfore they don't use the chat as it works today.
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Chat in Multiplayer Server List
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I wounder how to bring the chat function to life. I'm playing for about 2 weeks LfS and the chat is almost anytime deserted. But it could be such a good place in order to gather people there and to decide what cars and tracks they want to drive.

Everytime I'm waiting in the chat and I see someone entering it too, he left the chat imidently as if he has entered a forbidden area where a dangerous creature is lurking for him. Sooner as I can type "hi".

Perhaps the chat can be combinded with the car selection group, which could also open the corrosponding chat room automatically, e.g. TBO -> TBO Lounge, STO ->STO Room, S-S -> S-S Only Room etc. Also a class independent chat room for Newbes, Average and Pro Driver would be nice.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I don't think it's necessary to change it. If I want a challenge, then I drive with the XRT just for fun. If I want to have better chance to win a race I choose the FXO. But I'm quite slow anyway, so I'm always driving just for fun, regardless what car I take.

The unbalance of cars can also care for close races between racers of different driving abilities, e.g. the good driver with racing wheel takes the XRT the lesser good driver with keyboard takes the FXO.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Quote from Cue-Ball :Well, the only way someone would know the server was changing tracks would be for them to constantly watch the server's listing. There's no way to know that the server is changing tracks without monitoring it fairly closely.

Can't you call your server during setting up "Cue-Ball's Track Rotation" or something like that?

I think the track rotation is a good feature. Perhaps 3 races with 10 laps with 1 pit stop would be a good idea too + about 20-30 minutes qualifying by entering a new track. So if somone stumbels into a race, even if it's at lap 4-6 he is already well prepared for the next race if he roughly knows a track.

But there should be no car rotation. Only TBOs as group and no switching to complete different cars like FOX, MRT or GTs. If you're comming to a unknown track and you have also to change the car to one you can't handle, that's too much.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
After pressing "F12" a context menue opens. There you can navigate with the arrow keys, at least in multiplayer games.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
I take back everything what I said before and claim the opposite.

I've just found out that you can change the amount or better the percantage of fuel which should be refilled before a pit stop by pressing "F12", if you're forced to change your strategy.

So it's fine too as it is now.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Quote from StewartFisher :If your car has a 100 litre fuel tank then what's the difference between using litres and percentages? illepall

Because it's an example which should make things easier to understand.

Quote from StewartFisher :What you're asking for is a change in the refuelling system such that you specify the amount of fuel to add during a pitstop rather than the total fuel load at the end of a pitstop.

Excellent. You got it. :top:

By the way: Due to the high gasoline prices I would prefer if my real car would drive with percentages too instead of expensive fuel.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
Quote from Tweaker : Pretty easy if you know your multiplication .

What's your point? illepall

Do you think I don't know fundamental arithmetic operations?

Put the case you want to stop 1 lap earlier, e.g. because you have been involved in an accident, and you refill from 8% (5% remains due to you're example + 3% saved, due to driving 1 lap less) to 15%, you only refilled 7% not 15%. But 15% is far to less anyway, because you need 18% fuel (6 rounds *3 %) .

I think it's much better if you know you have to refill a certain among of liters and it doesn't matter if I make a pit stop in round 4, 5 or 6 in a 10 lap race.
Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
By the way. I would like to fill the cars with a certain among of fuel in liters or gallons and not in percentages.

For example: I have a car which can be filled with 100 liters. I need them all to finish a race and want to start with 60 liters and 40 liters shall be refilled during pitstop. With real liters I can make a stop after 1/3, the half or nearly up to 2/3 of the racing distance and the missing 40 liters will be refielled during pitstop.

But if i'm refilling percantages I have to consumpt everything. If I refill from 10% to 40% I would only refill 30 liters instead 40. So I haven't enough fuel to finish the race. So I'm very constraint to make the pit stop at a certain time, which makes varying the pit stop strategie during the race nearly impossible.
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Sunday Driver
S2 licensed
You can watch the temperature status of you tyres by pressing F9. That may help to see how you're driving style or certain actions harms your tyres or not.
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