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RBR - How to not DNF?
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RBR - How to not DNF?
How the hell do you avoid crashing in RBR? I was being safe, taking it slow, and I still crashed head on into a tree. How do you *NOT* DNF in RBR? I just got RBR btw. I'm using 550 degrees of lock on my DFP. RBR is friggin impossible! I DNF'd every single rally in the rally season!
Learn to drive.

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You have to be from Finland.
Lots of practice, and a little bit of luck sometimes. Even when you know a stage perfectly well you can still have some rather large accidents.
Quote from Blackout :Learn to drive.

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Can you be more specific? Maybe I should post some replays of my driving. Seriously, how slow am I supposed to go? Stay 50kph around the whole stage?
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I could reply with something low and un-witty like "you suck".

But I won't, I'll reply with the honest truth...




You suck.
Lol Bob.

RBR is brilliant for this, there is only one safe guard way to finish and that is to take it easy and never go hard unless you ahave the confidence to. If your going into corners hoping that you will stay on the track then you will most probarly crash. But if you go into corners knowing your withing your limits you should be ok.

It's a good way to start, although you gradually get faster and faster, getting some nice flow going while still taking it easy.
Me in RBR is like the steriotypical women driver.
#9 - amp88
Never, ever relax ever (not even on the straights). Keep your concentration up at all times (Hello, hi and welcome to the redundancy department, the department of redundancy...). Don't ever start thinking that you're almost at the end of the stage and you're going well, that's a sure fire way to find yourself upside down in a tree in half a second. Never applaud yourself on taking a corner well when you finally nail one, that's another upside down + fire moment right there. Basically concentrate all the time is the best advice I can give.
It's just a case of practice, practice, practice.

Really take the time to learn the techniques in the driving school, do them over and over again until you are comfortable with the car control.

Then i suggest just practicing on one Stage many , many times (Chirdonhead was where i did all my practice)

There is nothing more satisfying than flying through a stage of RBR and making it through unscathed.

Remember, you have to completely forget about any techniques you have learnt in other sims.(and being good at Colin McRae wont get you anywhere with RBR)

Rally driving forces you into doing things that feel completely unnatural to start with.
Quote from wheel4hummer :Can you be more specific? Maybe I should post some replays of my driving. Seriously, how slow am I supposed to go? Stay 50kph around the whole stage?

That doesn't mean you can drive.

If you keep on crashing you are driving beyond your limits, use the brakes more and stop hitting trees.
#12 - JTbo
Quote from geeman1 :You have to be from Finland.

Agree

Full throttle is for certain special situations, normally you need only 2/3rd of throttle, well 1/2 throttle is perhaps good for starters, maintain such speed that you are in control, not the car, remember to slow down if you get feeling that you are not having 100% control, car can go much faster than what you are capable of keeping it on road, just like IRL, something most other sims miss.
Also listen co-driver, learn to translate those pace notes to corners, visualize corners in your mind, it really is needed.

RBR is game where also you need both feets, you must use brake and throttle together to keep car going nicely around corners.

Use something to prevent sweat entering to your eyes, that _will_ happen on longer stages
Adding to what the others have said and it might sound obvious, but don't "grip" around the corners on loose surfaces. Get the car sideways and pull yourself through the corner with liberal throttle use - anything else will just make you understeer into the next tree.
#14 - JTbo
Quote from AndroidXP :Adding to what the others have said and it might sound obvious, but don't "grip" around the corners on loose surfaces. Get the car sideways and pull yourself through the corner with liberal throttle use - anything else will just make you understeer into the next tree.

Indeed, also rally school is worth to spend few moments, at least scandinavian flick is very useful.
RBR can be a cruel master. Here's my advice:

1) Make sure you're always aware of the pace notes - it's easy to forget to pay attention and have no idea what's coming next. If you realise you've forgotten or not heard the next corner (or two), slow down until you get back in sync with the co-driver's instructions.

2) Don't get over-confident! The #1 car killer in RBR is when you've taken a couple of corners perfectly, using all the road, early on the throttle, linking them together like a pro and you think "I am an awesome driver, I am going to have the best stage time ever" - within five seconds of having this thought, your car will be on its roof. Guaranteed.
#16 - Vain
You're propably driving by what you see, not what you hear.
Try making rules. When I started out I used:
Flat right: 6th gear
Easy right: 5th gear
Fast right: 4th
Medium: 3rd
Everything below: 2nd
When it rains just drop a gear from those figures.

That should get you through most turns safely. Change accordingly if something scary comes up, like fast right into medium left. Later, when you feel safer you can speed up a little depending on what the copilot says.
The line you drive is *very* important. A basic strategy is entering the corner from the outside and planning the apex *very* late. When I can't judge a corner I plan a so late apex that I only hit the inside of the corner when the corner is over. That way I can always react when the corner is longer than I thought, or if I overheard a "tightens".
Make sure you really learn how to plan your line just by what the copilot says. "Easy left over crest into fast right" is completely different from "Easy left into fast right over crest" which is completely different from "easy left into fast right" which is completely different from "Easy left 30 fast right over crest" etc. etc.
Use your ears to decide which line you want to go. Use your eyes to correct the line you pictured in your head, if there are any bumps, holes, or cambered-parts to take note of.

When you go quick the risk never approaches zero. Even Loeb and Grönholm wreck their cars once in a while.
I reinstalled RBR a few days ago after not having played it for 6 months. I really didn't know any of the stages. Yet I managed to complete a season with exactly one incident, which happened today.
On my 2nd stage of the Australia rally, New Bobs, I approached a "100 fast right narrows 100", put the left rear wheel on the rough bits as planned, something I never saw coming lifted the complete rear axle into the air, I struck a tree and hit something with the radiator, lost cooling and the engine died on the next stage. Despite the wreck I finished the stage well below the RBR-WR, which means I could've tackled the corner 20km/h slower and would still have won the stage. Instead I lost the rally. (No deal though, still won the championship, and I only did the Peugeot/Pro rally to unlock all stages so I can practice the Toyota and do a Champion difficulty season.)
Once you know how to plan the lines according to the pacenotes it's really easy - if you can concentrate.
Oh, and a concentration hint: *Always* watch the replays. You need the cool-down time.
Quote from The Moose :There is nothing more satisfying than flying through a stage of RBR and making it through unscathed.

Roger that. After that mistake I did the first run of Noiker in the dry with the Toyota and did a very nice 8:14. The stage is completely mental, hammering down a bumpy cart track in a forest at 180km/h, the copilot announces "over crest flat left" and you have to turn in before the crest into a 3 meter wide corner you can't see while driving 180km/h. Real "I'm gonna die now!"-moments. It's just awesome.
Bisanne is another stage that is completely mental when you have to really nail it because you need the championship points. If you concentrate hard enough and later watch the replay you go: "How is that even humanly possible!"

Vain
#17 - JTbo
Sorry OT, but is there times currently anywhere on net? swedish simracers page seem to be lost into bit heaven

Maybe need to install game myself too, really long time since drove that last time
The ultimate secret is this:

Stop! Wait for the damn photographer to get off the damn track! Continue driving!!!
When you finally do a stage well all the way through, all of the frustration will seem worth it. Probably the most satisfying sim to get half decent at.
Quote from wheel4hummer :...[B]How do you *NOT* DNF in RBR?...

i think in your case, it would be best to cut down all the trees
I play LFS with my wheel set to 540 degrees. However, I found RBR practically impossible with that much steering travel. RBR was designed for standard 270 degree wheels. Maybe there was a steering configuration option I was missing, I don't know.

I should note that I used to have a standard 270 degree wheel and could play RBR on it just fine.
#22 - JTbo
Quote from Forbin :I play LFS with my wheel set to 540 degrees. However, I found RBR practically impossible with that much steering travel. RBR was designed for standard 270 degree wheels. Maybe there was a steering configuration option I was missing, I don't know.

I should note that I used to have a standard 270 degree wheel and could play RBR on it just fine.

Hmm, can't remember what I have been using, but with LFS 900 degrees as I do drive mostly street cars. What to use should be same they use in rally, I would imagine it is 720-900 degree range anyway?
Quote from Nathan_French_14 :i think in your case, it would be best to cut down all the trees

CoDriver: Easy left, over bridge
Me: Pffft... bridge, what bridge?
<Three seconds later>
Me: Oh, that bridge! I don't feel so good <passes out>

I am a terrible driver in RBR, I know that. My problem definitely is speed. I actually have noticed some improvement in my driving. I don't flip the car (As much) like I did when I first played.
well i dont think im too bad, but im certainly not at a good level. After watching some videos, im very tempted to re-install it on my machine, especially after purchasing a G25, heard there great fun with these wheels.
Quote from Nathan_French_14 :i think in your case, it would be best to cut down all the trees

Good one, but the ultimate solution is: turn off the damage

Quote from JTbo :Hmm, can't remember what I have been using, but with LFS 900 degrees as I do drive mostly street cars. What to use should be same they use in rally, I would imagine it is 720-900 degree range anyway?

Real WRC cars should have 540°

I also recommend doing some ffb and wheel setting tweaking for RBR... from out of the box it has possibly some steering lag and you're probably not using "suggested" ffb settings (unlike LFS, RBR needs Spring Effects too). Click here.

RBR - How to not DNF?
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