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AndRand
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Quote from Breizh :They don't even know how wrong they are. Zombies.

I hope I am not "they" Smile
Because even more - they think they are right because they now restore their world from CHAOS - that is free democracy and free market competition.

Thousands take part in 'Anti-Maidan' protest in Moscow against uprising in Ukraine
Protesters, including Cossacks, students and activists from Chechnya, waved flags and placards with slogans such as, “Russia’s enemies need a Maidan!” and, “We don’t need Western ideology and gay parades!”
Many wore black and orange striped St George’s ribbons, a symbol of military valour that has been adopted by the rebels in Ukraine. One woman in a fur coat had a handmade sign around here neck reading, “Putinism forever”.
Last year’s Maidan protests in Ukraine were an “embryo of Goebbels” organised by “fascists” in “a concentration of everything anti-Russian”, the crowd of 20,000 or more was told by speakers on a stage in Revolution Square, a few hundred yards from the Kremlin.
“Maidan is the smile of the American ambassador as he sits in his penthouse on Khreshchaytk, taking pleasure as he sees brother kill brother,” cried one orator, referring to Kiev’s main street. “Fifth columnists” in Russia who “visit the US embassy for instructions” also deserved to be harshly dealt with, he added.
The speakers encouraged the crowd to chant, “There will be no Maidan in Russia!” but the response was limp and many protesters reportedly dispersed quickly once the speeches were over, suggesting its organised nature.
The protest was held as Ukrainians met in Kiev for their own events to commemorate the culmination of the pro-Western uprising, which left more than 100 civilians and 18 policemen dead after snipers opened fire near the square a year ago last week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11426775/Thousands-take-part-in-Anti-Maidan-protest-in-Moscow-against-uprising-in-Ukraine.html

...they shouted 'Maidan will not be forgotten nor forgiven'

...yup that is what they shouted... How Ukrainians dared to die from bullets!!!




"Ukraine's example has taught us a lot, and we won't allow a Maidan in our country," stated the organisers prior to the rally.
The crowd's fervour was obvious. One banner held by a female pensioner read "Putinism forever", while a group of Cossacks bore a placard: "The Maidan is a disease. We will treat it."
And another very large banner read: "Yankee go home and take the Maidan with you."
The Kiev uprising forced the Russian-backed president Viktor Yanukovych out of office last year.
Russia then annexed Crimea from Ukraine, and ever since has backed separatist rebels in the east of the country – although the Russian government denies this.
Nikolai Starikov, one of the Anti-Maidan movement's leaders, stated that the march is the movement's first big rally and that it is aimed at deterring the pro-Western opposition from plotting a similar coup in Russia.
"Don't even try. Don't make any attempts to rock the boat in Russia," he said during TV coverage.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tens-thousands-russians-join-moscow-anti-maidan-against-ukraine-uprising-1488955

NO COMPETITION, NO OPPOSITION - this is what they believe.
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AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :
Quote from AndRand :
I am not really surprised.
Sakhashvili's successor is well know businessman, hard to tell, Georgian or Russian... Big company with Russia-Georgia businesses, in this region it is well known how strong ties (with Russia's secret police and intelligence) have to be to even run such business. Not only succesful.
First thing I would expect that Sakhashvili would be accused. BTW you don't need Russia-biased businessman for this. When previous government in Poland has been changed there were long list of very strong accusations. After more than 8 year of proceedings, none occurred to be true.
Not forgetting Ukraine's Yulia Timoshenko, former PM, who were put in jail without any trial by your hero - Yanukovych.
This is what you advocate here?

So the US is now supporting a Russian agent ?, Are you serious ?
So, are you saying the following ?

A Russian Secret agent becomes President of Georgia, commits crimes in Georgia (Stalins Birthplace) hides in the US and gets a job in the Ukraine, supported by the US ?, But secretly acting for the Russians....... And only you are aware of this information.

Well, that makes sense..........

Whta are you talking about?
Racer, tell me - what drugs do you use???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidzina_Ivanishvili
AndRand
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There is one good point of it - many tracks, routes and cars. Smile
AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :
So the above AndRand post is yet another 'Euro Midden' story

You know, I am not surprised you believe in EVERY story if signed "from Moscow".
This one is so stupid I am really amazed you were able to post it... Unbelievable Big grin Big grin Big grin
Ukraine asked Russian (???) general-lieutnant (???) to help (???) Novorussian separatists... (???) Do you even comprehend what you have posted???? Big grin :Big grin Big grin
BTW. the coverage was from destroyed Debaltseve.

Bet children in kindergarten would be smarter... Pick yourself here, really - original useful idiots... unbelievable... Big grin Big grin Big grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rMdC45S79uQ


Quote :Well that would involve honesty and integrity so I'm not holding my breath expecting anything like that, and until then, I'll just enjoying pointing out the lies !
That and laughing at people who still can't answer a post.

I am not really surprised.
Sakhashvili's successor is well know businessman, hard to tell, Georgian or Russian... Big company with Russia-Georgia businesses, in this region it is well known how strong ties (with Russia's secret police and intelligence) have to be to even run such business. Not only succesful.
First thing I would expect that Sakhashvili would be accused. BTW you don't need Russia-biased businessman for this. When previous government in Poland has been changed there were long list of very strong accusations. After more than 8 year of proceedings, none occurred to be true.
Not forgetting Ukraine's Yulia Timoshenko, former PM, who were put in jail without any trial by your hero - Yanukovych.
This is what you advocate here?
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AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :

The one shot down by separatists looked like that:



Didn't know you became pro-terrorists activist.
Although I am not surprised... all soviets are.
AndRand
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Russian Lt-General Alexander Lentsov himself is overseeing the take over of Debaltseve
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alexander_Lentsov.JPG



http://asian-defence-news.blogspot.com/2015/02/russian-lt-general-alexander-lentsov-in.html

Next Novorussia city turned into ruins...
Poor Novorussians - Russia will not give them money because they don't have money (Transnistria is about to go bankrupt due to lack of financial aid from Russia).
Ukraine will not give them money because they don't want to.
They just will stay ruined because they got hijacked by some terrorist band of separatists.
AndRand
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Quote from dfgjkl :Thats what i sayid is f**d up,clean up your mess in first place

Just pliiiz... don't clean up your or anybody's mess outside your country, OK?
Because 'vsyo v paryadke' means 'Everything Is Not OK', all right?
'Mess' means free market competition.
'V paryadke' means totalitarism, bribe system, state driven capitalism - no free market competition.

Every Russia's neighbour needs more 'mess' than 'v paryadke'.
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AndRand
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Some play with toys in grass as grown-ups Smile

AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Now, lets get back to this !
REPOST, see above.

LS3 is a rough-terrain robot designed to go anywhere Marines and Soldiers go on foot, helping carry their load. Each LS3 carries up to 400 lbs of gear and enough fuel for a 20-mile mission lasting 24 hours. LS3 automatically follows its leader using computer vision, so it does not need a dedicated driver. It also travels to designated locations using terrain sensing and GPS. LS3 began a 2-year field testing phase in 2012. LS3 isfunded by DARPA and the US Marine Corps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R7ezXBEBE6U

I din't know LS3s are to be rode by marines on their back...
LS3 cavalry...

Interesting idea :scratch:

:lol:

btw. one week pony knows how to follow Smile

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AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :That explains all the inane braindead posts here !!!!!
See above.......

I am still waiting for your definition of sanity when calling Russia's seizure of its neighbours' territories as "aggression on Russia".

I am really interested because as I know (post)soviets have quite opposite definition of sanity than western culture.
I was on one training to be certified on safety issues. Safety - that included situation threatening with injury or death.
To got certified you have to obey and loose your self-preservance instinct (which can lead to injuries or destroying machine operated).
I didn't obey, didn't get injured or machine destroyed - and got called 'insane'.
So I know (post)soviets have different definition of sanity.

Now... what's your definition?
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AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :And back to the present, here's the ex head of the UK military commenting on the UK sending support to Ukraine. It's a bit of a lol....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11412838/Sir-Richard-Dannatt-condemns-armoured-vehicle-transfer-to-Ukraine.html

He told The Telegraph: “I took these out of service by the UK Army in 2005/6 as completely unsuitable for current operations, so I find it incredible that they are being sold/gifted to Ukraine. I am incensed by the thought we are supplying, even via a 3rd party, SAXON APCs to the hapless Ukrainians."

Sorry, but I don't think Russia uses these so they can't be used to claim a Russian invasion. You'll have more luck with these...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28961080

...

This really sum's up what is going on and who's running it !. Please prove me wrong, please show that what I'm saying is incorrect.

Now I only wonder, how DUMB you are?

First, you think APC will be used against tanks.
Now you show proof of Russian tanks in Eastern Ukraine...

Numerous Tornado shells have been found after being fired on civillians in Mariupol, Eastern Ukraine. Only Russia's army uses Tornados artillery.
I showed pictures of Russia's marines fighting at Donetsk Airport as shown in official state Russia's One TV channel.
There are pictures of Ukraine's POW being tortured in Lugansk, separatists territory, and taken by military men into cars with Sverdlovsk (deep in Russia) number plates.
There are pictures of Russian tanks on officialy invaded Crimea.

...How DUMB you can be to call it aggression on Russia?

About Russia's invasions...
The region of Transnistria was in the same situation as Eastern Ukraine. It became 'independent' from Moldova with big Russia's support. Russia's financial aid was major pillar of it's budget. Now the imperial toy is forgotten and deep into bankruptcy with 50% budget deficit and only 25% of planned revenues for January:
After months of crisis which has been ongoing since 2013, Transnistria faced the threat of economic catastrophe. Such poor conditions of Transnistria’s economy have additionally worsened due to the Ukrainian crisis. Russian aid, which had been so far one of the most important pillars of the region’s economy has significantly been limited due to the bad economic situation inside Russia.
Meanwhile, budget revenues are not enough to secure the payments of pensions and salaries for employees of Transnistria’s public sector

http://www.neweasterneurope.eu/articles-and-commentary/1462-transnistria-s-economy-going-from-bad-to-worse
Furthermore, I can assure you, every post-soviet country has post-soviets ready to 'revolt and make independent states' at each Kremlin call.

...How DUMB you are to call Russia's driven treason as beneficiary for Russia's neighbours?
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AndRand
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Quote from Keling :
As for machine vs animal, machines can
...
and could deliver much more strength than any living creature if designed that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr-wBpYpSfE
well, this one cane bare 100lbs...
Traditional army horse had on his back:
- saddle - 40kg (80lbs)
- supplies load - 80kg (160lbs)
- soldier and horse (food) equipment - 20kg (40lbs)
total - 280lbs.

Yes, and this all for 100x times lower cost.
AndRand
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For me it is be very funny idea :lol:
Until something proves me wrong.

I can't see ANY benefit of using them instead of animals. Maybe the fear of almighty PETA Big grin
Animals are far cheaper, quieter, with low cost of maintenance.
I can't see benefit of ie. scale - big scale monster like Star Wars AT-AT Walkers have no use - if you want a vehicle on muddy, soft surface you use caterpillars. There are vehicles used in canadian swamps that can go in terrain most footed creatures can't go - their caterpillars are so big those massive couple of tons vehicles ride thru mud where everyone would sink on their feet.

DARPA contests are always interesting in terms of science but appliance of this one would be really funny.
AndRand
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Quote from Bmxtwins :WHAT ARE YOU A GOD DAMN FORTUNE TELLER???

No, I know how these moments look on gopro Big grin
And once I was skiing there were some mountain bike guys on the slope. And they dipped the front wheel like every 50 meters/yards :lol:

But I can see you like it Smile

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AndRand
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Quote from matijapkc :Off topic: I'd like to see that robot do that on uneven terrain.

Do you think that makes any difference?
If "it" doesn't see anything but gyro read it is walking like blind. So that shouldn't make any difference. Apart from that it can be only reactive - with no proactive ie. jumps over obstacle.
AndRand
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Stop bullying poor robots!!!




btw. I always wonder what will be thinking a poor pashtun in the middle of nowhere seeing this?
And feeding his donkey with wisp of hay... :lol:
AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :And I so often feel like Wonko the Sane here, people seem to need instructions of how to use toothpicks......

Plz, tell me your definition of sanity when you call as an act of aggression on Russia when Ukraine's territory (and many other neighbours') is being seized by Russia.

I am deeply interested how do you define sanity because I found it REEEAAAALLY awkward how soviets define sanity whenever and wherever I meet them.
AndRand
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I like it :thumbup:
It's like one of these blood-thrilling, adrenalizing moments of hardcore downhill on snow when you are striving to maintain balance and praying for front wheel not dipping into snow making you flip forward...

Everything is on the gopro, and then there is... ...meh!
AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :He does, it may be a rant, uninformed and prejudiced but he does say Smile

This is an interesting article, note: english as a second language is very clear here but it's still a very well informed article looking at the current state of Ukraine politics.

AndRand, TexasLTU, please actually read this, you may find it highly informative for the case your making.

And, thanks Scrawen, I really want to keep this as civil conversation here and unfortunately it's up to the mods to police this thread and monitor the rabid national hatred. Sad, but people need to look at facts, not obsess about their personal historical issues.

I grew up with Russia being the 'big threat', Yeah 'USA,USA,USA' and really, seriously grew up with this !
I lived the propoganda that some people here are giving, If I can move on, so can you Smile
Just actually think, look at facts, check your sources, recheck your sources.
And try not to believe the Bankers !

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/02/09/ukraine-military-coup-inevitable.html

A year has passed since the Ukraine’s government was forcibly removed. Experts strongly believe that a military coup is inevitable. It’s a matter of time, driving forces and scenarios.

I wonder how dumb will you look when the seizure of Ukraine by Russia will happen. Probably soon.
I will have to say - haven't I told you so?
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AndRand
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Quote from Keling :The wheels in ISI sims have moment of inertia calculation linked correctly to the drive line components. It's no worse than LFS/AC in this regard and the angular velocity you see is not just a graphical representation. I know this is LFS forum and people do ISI bashing with a passion but some times it's going a bit too far.

It is not bashing - it is asking: when I buy AC will I go back to game like RACE07 or proper sim?

LFS is known for representing as separate objects all parts from tire contact patch to suspension mount (mounted to rigid body - that means CoG with given arm): tire elasticity, wheel inertia, spring/dumper units, wishbones, steering rods, antiroll bars.
The way to simplify is to make a combo object transferring forces from ground to car body. Of course the more parts are simulated - the better, becuase all have their operating angles and force transfer (especially seen with damage simulated - in AC I could see only wheels being jammed). So instead of results from simulation of one part being taken as inputs of another to give overall effect, the tweaking of such combo with parameters of each part is then "the state of the art" - simplified formulas for combo giving simplified results.
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AndRand
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This is how SIMBIN sees a car (with forces as relative to CoG):



LFS additionally sees also forces on these:


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AndRand
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Quote from Hyperactive :I think ac physics is made of lasors. Lots of bright red lasors.

I'm not sure if I understand your question. What is box style physics?

LFS appeared quite revolutionary with separate physics for each wheel (as mass body), calculating physics for each contact patch, later also different parts of suspension attached to car body CoG - so in fact such simplified mesh was calculated, later even every tire sector for tire temps (as you see in F9, F10 views of tires and suspension).
I think only RigsOfRogs went further in terms of car body simulation treating vehicle structure as a 3D mesh calculating forces on each node.

While SIMBIN, as was known to me, kept on tweaking one box simulation with car treated as one whole. Thus calculating all forces as result on rigid car body (represented by its CoG). You don't need to calculate wheel as rotating wheel with contact patch to calculate car movement - it can be just CoG and 4 sectors of contact with ground (for different surfaces) relative to CoG with simplified formulas for combo: wheel-suspension-bodymount as one object.

Thus LFS could be really accurate showing ie. each tire revs under different loads (so it is so prevaling among drift lovers), while SIMBIN sims were good in showing car body movement with wheels just mathematically (for graphics) put on ground level not in fact physicly calculated.



QUESTION is: does it only look like LFS or RBR (also with SIMBIN physics I think) or also feels like?
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AndRand
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Quote from Hyperactive :Anyways, it is a simple math problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia
For box you have


Is whole AC physics the SIMBIN one box style?
Or more close to LFS mostly concerned with tire-ground patch physics?
AndRand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :
Quote :Now they are done with this horrible CHAOS!!! - as they call free market capitalism.
Now they have tidiness and order - the state decides who can be an oligarch and who cant'. Even more, if you can run your business or not. Because without local official permission it will be utterly morbid experience.
So there is less oligarchs... and more Russians in a state of near starvation.

I really lost your point somewhere in the above Smile

I know, I know... Eastern Europe can be quite complicated.

First, I show you results of political capitalism - this is postcommunism situaton of state-controlled economy. Where you can become an oligarch by being a state official, like Yanukovych.
There is no capitalism's CHAOS - everybody knows with whom they can make business. And who can run business. Btw. your hero's son (Yanukovych's) had for example the habit of acquiring shares in enterprises. It was real 'hostile takeovers' - he just came to the company saying: 'from tomorrow I will be majority owner or this company will not exist'.

This is why Maidan revolted against that cleptocracy rule.
This is also a reason why eastern Ukraine revolted because they cannot exist without such position.
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