Take a look at www.lfs-lota.net

A large populations of (North) Americans are participating in multiple leagues (currently a MRT Cup and a Grand Touring Cup are running).

THis thursday a TNT will be heald, meaning lots of short races with multiple cars.

In any aspect this site will increase your ability to compete with a lot of (skillfull) people.

awesome and much anticapted program henry!

Quote from Worm :

Ok, sry but, eventually, how to subscribe a team to MOE?
Sry i m french
What is an application?

'mise an oevre' (french for application) and read the first post: fill out the info you need and send it to the given email address.

French or whatever nationality, if you wish to excel in an internal league, a better understanding of , and a little bit more effort into, the international language (English) might be helpful.

Quote from Cargo :

I just signed up. Privateer backmarker #80

Just finishing the race will be a good result for me.

Including Cargo's signup we now have 43 drivers registered racers for the Fall 2007 season. Still 17 places open for those who want to join (hint, hint)!

Btw do have your buddy sign up too, as part of the grand touring cup is a special squad championship!!

See www.lota-lfs.net for more info!

Kinda depends on the region you're in (and the amount of antennas per region, per provider)

I have AT&T (former cingular) and fairly pleased with them.

Quote from Tweaker :

EDIT: Oh yeah there will be things to try and help differentiate the two classes. Something on the bumper will be made for sure, but nothing big and large. I am pretty sure we will make the sunstrip visors be different colors depending on the class, and an optional number plate that will have the same coloring stripe on it or something.

When we first discussed the 2 class racing with the limited GTRs, I quickly made this kind of idea for the bumpers, but indeed... before the season starts, this will all be ready to go, and look better .



(This is just the bumper idea we first had --- Coloring is other way around for GT1 and GT2 in this pic (Very Old) --- There wont be color underneath rear wing)

I'm not so sure that little marker is going to make a difference. The way LFS built up its POV is, at least that's the way I see it, it shows you first a scrambled back in which the main color is shown. Only till you get more closer the amount of details increases and you'll get to see a difference. The time between detail view and overtaking may be too short for now (perhaps the improved hp/weight ratio could improve the time of being detailed visible and thus nullifying my point )

Including yesterdays sign ups we now have 41 active racers for the upcomming Grand Touring Cup. As a reminder the first official race will be held this thurday at 9.30PM EST.
This means you still have enough time to prepare, if you're still in doubt of joining this league.

Again, if you are interested in joining this league, visit: www.lfs-lota.net for more info!

Given the sign up list, I bet you won your debate

Welcome back!

Currently we have 39 sign ups for this event. Based on 2 servers we have room for an additional 21 racers. See www.lfs-lota.net for more info!

Quote from GTR_Yuni :

It's not a problem, even if I'm a good driver a 14 year old is verrrrrrrrrrrrry out of place in a team with many "older" and more experienced drivers IMO anyway

(I might consider getting a wheel+pedals soon though, but I'm unsure on this)

Yes, Banshee sure cranks up the average age of a team :P

But age does not has to be a problem, it is all about how serious and mature one is to race. If you can race in a competitive, respectful way, a lot of teams will consider you as a future driver. After all 'older' and experience will come with time

To remove the questionmarks:

F1RST Racing will be participating with the FZR (GT1).
Drivers (name, lfsnick):
B. Bouma, darkone55
K. Malcomson, b11tme

Last edited by AppiePils, Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:48.

To make it formal:

F1RST Racing #1 won't participate.

Anyone looking for a new teammate?

Quote from banshee56 :

Wait....why did you say you're 14 when your profile says your 51?

Banshee hopes there is someone else like him!

Don't hope too much that another person on this world exist who is mental 14 and physical 51 and has an average age of 35, Lee :P

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Ok, I understand your reasoning, I just don't think that it's completely out of the question to change such a rule in the middle of a season. See, for example, NASCAR's decision to add the no racing to the yellow flag rule mid-season.

Furthermore, if anyone decides they're going to drive more recklessly due to there being a reset rule, they're not reading the rule very closely. It's designed to punish those who flip in such a way that it will hurt their final standings in the race.

Bold: I never said that, I only said that somethings you should not change due to the impact of that change during the season.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

I'm not sure of your reasoning here. This rule shouldn't affect the way you drive whatsoever. Furthermore, were it changed, all drivers would be well aware of it before the next round.

The reasoning is that 4 (/5) races have occurred without this rule. How will you deal with those races, reverse the results? Not only will that lead to a lot of additional work, it wouldn't be fair to those who receive the negative results of those reversed results: those races have been run under the rules as they currently exist, adding a reset rule may be the reason to take a bit more risk and thus hypothetically people could have had a better result if they knew such a rule beforehand.

And forgive me my English, I'm an import American!

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

So you'd be in favor of it for next season?

Correct.

The proposed changes have a great repercussion to the league. Due to the severity of these changes take them as improvement points to the next season, and finish this season as it is: after all, all currently participation racers know the rules as they are, and have accepted them as they are.

Same as the other. Although I agree that this is a rule which should have been there. You cannot alter it during the season, not if you taken into account what happend in the previous 4 races. If you reverse the results to cover the whole league, I say yes (but not to the other poll).

Quote from nmanley :

I will add to the blue flag comments, I had the privilege to see a LOT of blue flags and for sure after the first several cars that lapped me, I could not tell if it was a leader or a car that I could still unlap myself from and compete. So I and my mates have adopted the stance that we do not worry about the blue flag until the overtaking vehicle is close enough to safely let pass. If this is bothering some of the sprint drivers that have joined endurance racing, all I can say is get use to it! I have had cars catch me when I made one of my many mistakes but I was able to drive off from them till the next mistake. When they are on my bumper I shall give up the line very quickly but not before. I can remember only once in the race that I was completely surprised by a lead car lapping me and I gave way ASAP.

Right call, you don't need to adjust your whole race to suit someone else. If enough room is provided at the point where both cars are close to each other, both cars should respect each other and leave room to overtake/ to be overtaken. It is the responsibility of both to ensure a clean takeover, not the guy being overtaken.

Option 1.

Minor changes to the rules are allowed during the season (For instance adjust them so they are clearer), what you definitely not do is alter rules in such a way that it's impact is way too large during the season.

You cannot held 4 races with no reset allowed and then suddenly allow it in the rest of the races.

Everyone knew beforehand: flip = DNF, leave it that way.

Quote from srdsprinter :

The fastest car does not mean it deserves to win.

That's why we run the race. Otherwise, just qualify and call it a day.

Yay we won o/

:P

Enclosed the F1RST Racing #1 skin used in IGTC

Last edited by AppiePils, Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:22.

Quote from srdsprinter :

If a car rolled onto the track, a full course caution would come out.

The safety crews would load the car onto a flat bed and carry it off (shift-s if you will).

Yes, so? In essence it's the same. If a real shift+s was possible no safety car would be released.

Quote from BenjiMC :

It depends how you look at it. If your going for realism then it's not, it's renacting events from a real race. If you just want a sim race then it's delay. It's a tough one to call but i preffer a realistic type of league, all we need now is rain at all the british tracks.

If you want realism, you push the car to a position next to the track and don't allow shift+S at all. You can't say 'realism' if you involve shift+s in any state.

What you get now is a useless safety car situation as no damaged car is on the track. In reality the would never send out the safety car if that was the case.

Second note, the additional concrete blocks at the chicane cause unnecessary damage. Although I can understand the additions (till a certain degree) you may want to consider either removing, or replacing the last block on the far left side of the block starting at the right.

Last edited by AppiePils, Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:24. Reason : 2nd adjustment has been altered in a better solution

Quote from srdsprinter :

Shift S is auto DNF as is running out of fuel

- paraphrased from the rules

Then, why wait for a safety car? Unnecessary delay is what I call that.