thx for the sets bob, great improvement. Niels' sets are great too. at last, the "natural feel" (at least imho) is here.

grats

Tried it for a short while, didn't like the handling and atmosphere much. Pretty much a GTR "addon". Regarding hardware requirements, Make sure to select DX7/8 shaders and NOT auto (graphics configuration utility).

Once i changed from auto to DX8, framerate gone up considerably. I'm still not very impressed though. LFS is better IMHO.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Another

EDIT: Just been told that there is a sequel, which is equally terrible. I didn't know that, so hence no 2 in the piccy. But it would work with either or...

LOL

lol excellent thread

bahh

happy bday will
and cropsy too, who had his bday about 2 mins ago

There's an issue with the sidewinder drivers. The built in driver for the sidewinder on windows XP doesn NOT support separate axis. You have to install the original driver that came with the sidewinder CD (or possibly a little later version of it) and it only support win 98 officially. Different ppl have different experience with such installation. For some it work, for some it doesn't. Sometimes a special registry fix is needed too.

You can search the "old" LFS forum on RSC for "sidewinder axis registry" and you'll come up with relevant threads.

Quote from Bob Smith :

Don't forget that the spring is pushing up on the car as well, which should cause the car to roll, which will alter the suspension on the other side. Try using a soft setup with low bump damping, this will slow everything down, since most sets in LFS are uber-stiff.

thx I'll try when I get home later today and post my observation again.

That should be pretty cool I'll gladly join one of those if available. So, who makes the 1st autox track according to the maps?

you can get this info (except for the description) by going to the track selection page in S2... wouldn't that be enough?

If you just got LFS, you're VERY good to be only 4s off the pace of the winners. Grats and welcome. Just continue practicing

Quote from Chaos :

try setting the antirollbars to 0, the function of ARB is to limit bodyroll, but the side effect of that is, that it does make the suspension less independent...

I have actually. before i posted my 2nd post on this thread. And my observation is still that the car bumps up/down are very noticable and LOOKS absolutely symmetrical. Only in slow motion and ARB = minimum you can notice that the suspensions do work independantly.

If you have GPL (/demo) installed, check it out, there you can actually see the suspensions working independantly. I know it simulates much older cars, but still, you get much better feeling IMHO from how it LOOKS.

Quote from spankmeyer :

I think the main thing that's affecting the independent wheel suspension acting together are anti-roll bars. Stiff anti-roll bars on race cars make the body very rigid thus, for example, getting one front tyre on curb raises the whole front.

Yes, yet, the body does NOT feel very rigid. That's the point i'm talking baout. The car bumps up and down relatively much on BOTH suspensions. Much more than what happens to the individual suspensions when going over a kerb for example.

Ok, I was not completely right in my observation... yet...

I've watched it again with different suspensions settings. When watching an SPR in slow motion, i see that i was actually wrong, and the suspensions react differently relative to eachother. However, still something looks very artificial in these vertical bumps. Could be the fact that the car bumping up and down much more than the "natural" suspension travel when going over a kerb, or even driving straight. I find it hard to pinpoint, but still, something feels artificial to me with these bumps.

Quote from farcar :

Talked me into it. S2 it is. Now I just need to pry the credit card from the missus' grasp.

At last, My [open wheeler] seat in heaven is secured

Hi,

This is especially noticable on the open wheelers, but happens also in other cars. The car always "bumps" completely vertically. I.e., if you're driving the FO8, and watching your front end of the car, then the nose is always symetrically between the two wheels, even through bumps (it goes up and down relative to the wheels, but its vertical distance from one front wheel is always identical to its vertical distance from the other front wheel).

This also happens when you go over kerbs, the whole car "rolls" and the nose is still symmetric to both front wheels. Instead, the suspension going over the kerb should be most affected first, and the car should stay relatively horizontal while the suspension absorbs the kerb, at least if you don't stay on the kerb for too long.

I think it gives a very artificial look to the whole driving experience. It just looks unrealistic IMHO. An example for better suspension behaviour can be observed in GPL. In GPL, if you go over a kerb, or a sidewalk (Monaco) with one wheel, then only that wheel goes up, and the suspension's keeping the car relatively stable.

I've noticed this behaviour before, but it only really got bothered by it recently when I started to check out GPL. They did a beautifull job so many years ago But I want S2 to be as good or better

I think that's planned for post-S2 stange. The full S2 got 49 diferent track combinations IIRC (in about 7 different tracks). Oh, and BTW, go get full S2, it's worth WAY more than what u pay for it... real bargain

welcome

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Quote from Woz :

Yes, you are 100% correct. But I was only trying to find out what had changed in the community because is old S1 days most people would send setups and this is no longer the case.

I'll have to agree. You can still get setups, but more ppl these days don't give them easily.. :/

cool

I drive a wheel but i used to drive a mouse. best advice i can give is turn "button rate" to the lowest level, and "pump" the gas key/button to keep below full throttle. also, i found that mouse = steer + a/z = gas/break gives better control than all controls in one hand (mouse).

Good that u made it banshee now back to the racetrack. haven't seen u online for a while

Auto sim sport has a good review in their july magazine (pdf, free download).

http://www.autosimsport.com/issues/autosimsport_1_7.zip

Quote from Victor :

Sim HQ's thoughts about the S2 Alpha: http://www.simhq.com/_motorsports2/motorsports_056a.html

Great review although it underestimates the importance of setup department:

Quote :

LFS ships with very good and very driveable setups. I haven’t found much reason to change much in the default setups but you can adjust things like camber, suspension, gearing, brake balance and down force to mention just a few of the options.

Hi,
My brother and me are going to England (Donington) for a Bike track-day/course. Since we're both into racing, I was wondering if anyone knows of any racing events on the 25-28 this month (aug.). On the 24th we're at Donington, and afterwards we're basically free. I'm talking about spectating, not participating.

Feel free to give any relevant links etc.

thanks,
avih

yes