Quote from Fonnybone :

I've always been attracted by Racer because it lets you model your own
cars, which i did, for a while. Problem is, it's no fun driving them. Perhaps
the lack of a multiplayer is my problem, but the physics aren't that great
either, so it's hard to say. I feel like Racer is more of a showroom for
modelling than a racing sim.

Now NetKar on the other hand is quite enjoyable. I've played quite
a bit a while back, i even 'converted' Blackwood for NetKar. Now that
was getting pretty fun, especially with the Modena and the formula car.
I'm back to LFS though Haven't played Racer or NetKar in a while now...

hehe, tried the blackwood conversion. kinda cool (did 1.08 with the f3000 after few laps with default setup). didn't know it's yours. grats

here's some info about it from simhq:
http://simhq.com/_motorsports2/motorsports_070a.html

In Israel, the week starts on Sunday (and the week days names are related to the numbers where sunday is "1st" in hebrew). So here we work sunday-thursday and friday/saturday are the weekend. That's working according to the Hebrew calendar. Saturday is the "holy" day here, quite similar to sunday in most of the western world

and btw, the word "sabbath" for saturday is pronounced "Shabat" in hebrew and means (rough translation) "rest" or "no work"

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Firefox, and I even developed a popular extension for it (check my sig)

Quote from Blowtus :

I'm a serious racer and I wouldn't dream of driving from cockpit view, just as I wouldn't dream of painting the windscreen on my real car so I could only see out a miniscule portion...

Without turning this into a flamewar about cockpit/wheel view, there are many racers who use cockpit view because they feel it's more realistic. It's ok that you don't but some are. Many in fact.

Quote from tristancliffe :

And the thing is, all the ISI games are announced as

"The most realistic driving experience yet, as proven by REAL race drivers". And all the ISI fan boys fall for it too.

I too hope Netkar is better competition, as the ISI assault is just insulting...

I've tried netkar (the free version) recently. Quite interesting actually. Different than LFS, worse sound (especially tyres), nice tracks available for download (got Donington, Laguna seca, Valencia and few more). The formula cars are both nice and different than LFS. But it's lightyears behind LFS in total experience imho, and it didn't find online servers to try multiplayer (I guess I could have entered server ip manually, but I'd have to find one 1st, and it didn't do it for me automatically).

Worth keeping an eye on netkar pro when it comes out.

http://forum.rscnet.org/showth ... p;highlight=pedals+upside
http://forum.rscnet.org/attach ... d=270569&d=1112274178

Quote from Chaos :

The F550 arrived today and all that I can say is

Effectively it made a 21" monitor out of my 17" for $40 and I can even have the virtual 21" monitor closer than I had the 17" (just over the body of my wheel)...

The only little drawback is that the text close to the edges is harder to read, but that can be cured by moving the lens back a bit making the image smaller...

hmm.. I must say it's a bit disappointing... what about the depth perception? virtual image size, eye strain etc. Does it have real advantage other than a nice gimic?

That's how it works at the moment. It might be usefull to see the screen name too in parenthesis perhaps. But you can always see the real-name ("web login") by holding CTRL+SHIFT with the names list on.

Quote from Webflat :

OOOOHHHH.

I´m very unhappy after starting LFS with the new patch Q. After years of playing lfs , now it doesn´t start. .

Look at pics:

PLZ HELP ME!

EDIT:
Rumble in the Jungle . I renamed the LFS.exe on my desktop. My fault, soz!!! Didn´t understand that, but now it works.

Maybe you didn't keep the zip directory structure when unzipping? If you're using winzip, there should be a checkbox that does that. If you don't check it then you'll get all the files in the root dir where you extracted them, instead of a directory structure. Give it another go.

I have XP-Pro SP1, AXP 2500+, ASUS A7N8X-X, FX5600 Ultra, quite recent video driver and not very recent nforce drivers.

The thing that's interesting though, is that it only happens 1st time of running. So maybe you could figure out what's difference between the 1st time and next times and just modify your initialization procedures a bit?

Quote from Kegetys :

If that works then its a bug (Sounds pretty odd though) it should only activate when there is only one car on the track. If it does get active under some situation with more cars on the track then I would imagine things would get quite messed up as many parts of it rely on the assumption that there is only one car driving.

great mod thx.
would you be able to comment about the reboot/BSOD when running it for the 1st time on some systems?

Quote from tristancliffe :

The trouble with ghost cars is that you can use them to drive a lap much faster than if you do not have a ghost car. So hotlaps will be artificially closer as people do laps they could not hope to do driving on their own. Which kind of defeats the point of hotlapping imo... One drivers versus the others in almost equal cars (i.e. setups).

nahh, not really. it does eventually come down to draving ability. ghost can only help you improve consistancy imho.

Ghostcar does that. You can disable the car itself and the path overlay and enable only split info (+/- from best lap so far).

NOTE: for some people, including me, it caused a reboot when running for the 1st time. Afterwards it worked fine.

some images from the site:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/shots/ghost1.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/shots/ghost2.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/shots/ghost3.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/shots/ghost4.jpg

Please add Ghostcar v1.0 for S2 ( http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/lfs/ ).
IMPORTANT, some people (including me) reported that 1st time using it it caused an immidiate reboot, Every other time I ran it it worked beautifully. Highly recommended for hotlapping/practice.

Quote from inCogNito :

yes, that's really a great mod, although it caused a BSOD here the first time i tested it.

Yup, I've had exactly same ecperience. Complete and immidiate reboot 1st time I've tried it, but your post convinced me to give it another go. And it works beautifully. Great mod indeed.

if your -5v doesn't exist it's very bad for your motherboard and can definately cause such screen "effects". BUT, I suggest you check the voltage from the bios configuration screen (usually DEL or F2 at the initial boot screen). Some extenral utility might read a wrong sensor.

But anyway if that's the problem then replace your PSU asap.

/me eagerly waiting

In addition to someone posting on RSC to chech the autorun entries in the registry, here's a great utility from systeminternals.com (the same guy that revealed the Sony Rootkit issue) Autoruns. It's the best utility that allows you to see programs that autorun with windows/login that I know of.

Quote from Daedelus :

I just got S2, and I'm still a little "shocked and awed" by all the content... I can drive most stuff, but I'm strugling with the LX cars and the Formula V8... The FV8 is just insane, as soon as I touch the mouse, the car just starts spinning like the world is about end. The new tracks are still confusing as all hell, so I think I'll stay at blackwood for a while yet! What you will immediatly see as awesome is:
1) The complete set of TBO cars, particularly the FXO Turbo, the most awesome car I can drive at all properly
2) The MRT-5... It's very silly indeed, but good fun.
3)Fern bay. Really pretty map
4)South city, a bit complex and confusing the first run through
5) The GTR cars.... The XRR is crazy!
6)The Formula cars. Can you say "doughnuts"?

I can't comment on online play, as my ISP charges like a wounded bull if you go over the miserly 500mb download limit, but I can only imagine it leaves the demo servers for dead. Spend the money, and you will have more stuff to play with than you can imagine.

Peter

welcome

I really hope you can afford to play online, it's such a great experience... perhaps you could turn off the auto skin download feature and save some bandwidth? worth at least a try i think to play online for an hour and see how much you download.

From a test I've just made (oval track, FO8, around 15-16 cars on track) the download rate is about 5+K/s (similar to 56kbps modem) which is less than 20M/hour. Upload rate is less than half of that (i would expect it to be 1/15 of that but i didn't conclude exact tests). So, for about 10% of your monthly capacity you can play online 2.5 hours a month I highly recomment to go online once in a while...

cheers, and welcome again

Quote from thisnameistaken :

This is all well and good, but we need a list, please. I remember when I first got the S2 demo I was exiting the chicane way too slow and you literally pushed me down the back straight. Please tell me which combos you suck at so I can come and have a go

Ha sorry for the push, I try to avoid others but I'm not perfect too, and in the heat of the battle.. u know

So, what combos do I suck at? I'll leave it to you to find out

Eventhough on some track/car combos I'm faster than average, there are definately combos at which I'm not (or at least slower than the faster races on the track). If I'm racing such combo, and there are obvious fast drivers that know the combo way better than me, I'd usually let them pass and have their fun fight with eachother.

After I have enough experience and can lap within a second or so from their lap time, only then I'll start fighting with them. Otherwise I'm just ruin ther races when a fast guy is stuck behind me. I know it's legitimate for me to give them fair tough time, but since I know that I hate getting stuck behind a slow driver when the leader is running away, I try to avoid that myself.

Quote from senn :

Underground Diamond drill offsider (19 months currently, with 2 different companies) in the eastern part of western australia, mainly drilling for nickel and gold

Hehe, looks like the opening stage of Doom 3

What I ment when I said they're not neccessarily the same is that the model which is used to calculate the effect in LFS probably has several parameters which are not tightly correlated (in contrast to real life where there's "absolute" correlation because it's actual physics).

I.e. the model might work like this:
- for car X the there exist a slipstream effect in <deg> degrees angle behind the car with <max> effect right behind it degrading over distance as a function of 1/distance calculated for upto <dist> meters behind it, etc. There could be more parameters that use the movement vector of the car, the orientation of the car towards the movement vector etc.

So, in that model, you could change either <max> or the function (replacing 1/distance with something else, or even a precalculated table) and in both cases you'll have different effect. Of course, if you change the max effect, it *might* effect the distance in a model. But it comes down to the model used.

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