Alright then you buggers, how do I get my pics from the 'box to the PC?
(and my LFS logo has been downloaded twice - who was it?)

Apparently not. It asks about uploading to the storefront but not to the site. That might change over the next few weeks right enough. And I don't know if there's innertube access to the storefront where you can look at screens.

Not found out how to get my pics up on my PC yet

My new version of the LFS logo has been uploaded and is available on my Storefront for the sum of 10,000 credits (temporary mandatory price, apparently). 128 layers. There's a crappy pic up if you want a preview too

I also have to pay tax on my car, even after having bought it outright in the first place. And fuel on top of that. And insurance! And don't get me started on VAT on the other stuff I buy.

The world is packed full of "extra" charges for stuff on top of what you pay by default. Hell, I still pay line rental for my phone line as well as my broadband, but am I complaining to BT about that?

It's all about whether or not you think what you get for the money is worth it. And in the case of XBL, it usually is. It's a very streamlined and immensely clever system.

So comparing GT PSP to Shift might be a little better matched then

I still don't get all the hostility between the Forza and GT communities. It's time to spread the love, guys. Love what you do, ignore what you don't.

Being older than the rest of us

Then again, I'm not old enough to retire yet, and by the time I get there they'll have put the age up to about 80. So maybe you're just ahead of the curve

Quote from danowat :

Public lobbies in FM2 were a bit elitist, with people being kicked for all sorts of reasons, the matchmaking system is meant to counter this.

I guess that makes some kind of sense, depending on what sort of matchmaking system they use - no point being lumped with people who have laptimes a full minute faster than yours

Quote from danowat :

The idea is, if you want a quick public race, you use the hopper system, if you want a customizable race, you race with friends.

It can always be patched if it doesn't work out. I'm quite interested to see how they work out popular custom game modes to integrate as official options (like they have with Cat & Mouse and Tag now).

My custom game mode (if it could be done) would be a Tag Relay. Four two-man (or two four-man) teams, starting a half (or quarter) lap apart. Players must make contact with their team-mate to get them going, but the first car would need to stop after contact within a set distance. Your tags would need to be done really carefully to avoid taking out both cars.

I've seen some people complaining about that on the official forum.

The common belief is that because it's not properly released yet, there's still Live options missing. Hopefully there'll be a switch they flip on Friday that'll add some more options - they were all about making multiplayer as customisable as possible, I can't see them missing it out now.

Hey, papa needs a new PC wheel, don't get nothing for free in this life

Maybe I'll do a limited time offer where LFS licensees get it for a reduced price. Maybe.

That's the way it goes across the entire net. I bet more people pick up Halo 3 or Gears of War every time they release a new map pack or address a balance issue. I bet Dawn of War 2 multiplayer picked up when they released the Last Stand mode.
Then it'll tail off again.

It's CIRCLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE of LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE

This morning I started working on a LFS logo decal, similar to the 3D-look one I did for Forza 2. I'll be releasing it as a standalone decal so if anyone wants it I expect it'll be on my Storefront later tonight. And don't worry, it'll be cheap

I might do another LFS-themed car as well - I really liked my LFS 350Z in FM2 although it wasn't quite perfect. And nobody could resist my Pacman Beetle

@Crashgate3
That 'ages' one is awesome

You think she doesn't have MSN? Noob

Hell, I have enough of a job trying to stop one woman biting my head off (the one I've lived with for the past 8 years), the last thing I want is a second one asking me to do stuff too

Quote from Migz :

Dont worry im not going to ler her go! Ima get back in there!!!
I hope.

She asked me to say hello

Quote from Doorman :

Believe me, you don't joke about 68. 105 yes. 4 yes, 68 NO!

No no no. You might not joke about 68, but the rest of us (especially those of us who have more than a handful of years to go) definitely do

I've only just started season 2 myself, and I'm glad the races are picking up. I run a mixture of hard and medium (the AI seems to be more competitive on the new tracks than the ones from Forza 2, but maybe it's just my experience) with no assists.
And obviously cockpit view all the time, because anything else is for great, soft, sissy, girlie, na ... n United supporting poofs

The OP started out alright, but went off at a bit of a "I want stuff for nothing" tangent.

We're not charged to play online, we're not charged for the skin uploading or downloading, we're not charged for the amazing LFSW service. We've had a range of new stuff added to existing licenses that hasn't cost us a single red cent.

Treading old ground here, but the price of LFS is still way under what you'd pay for a regular game, and those have no fixed plans for the future beyond releasing a sequel to get your cash again. For example, NFS:Shift has been out a couple of months and they're already working on the next one. Each one around £40 here in the UK.

I'm sure the 360 and PS3 fans would be happy if Forza and GT supported modding too, but they don't. You pay full price for what the developers give you. Nobody is forcing you to spend anything.

Wouldn't most of that stuff be changed before almost every event anyway?

And without random mechanical failures (which have been pretty much ruled out) simulating the wear of each mechanical part would be a little pointless.

Quote from obsolum :

I'm fairly certain that the first races in FM2 were only 2 or 3 laps as well, on short tracks.

That doesn't make it any better
I guess it's so that if you discover you suck even worse than me, you don't have 10 laps of catching up to do.

Quote from danowat :

The graphics are a mixed bag, sometimes it looks gorgeous, other times, nasty, the HDR is nasty and I wish I could turn it off, the back straight of Sebring is an great example.

Sometimes I think the HDR works well. On tracks like Silverstone it's pretty good at making it look like the surface is damp. But there is a part of Sebring where most of my screen was just brilliant white and I can't decide whether I like it (because it does sort of emulate sun blindness) or not (because it's distracting when you're looking for apexes).

Quote from danowat :

There is no way I can see of making a custom race, quick race is limited to 2 laps, you can't select any more, also, there is no way to make a custom multiplater lobby either.

Not done anything outside of the career yet (a whole 2% of the way through now!) so I can't help there. Seems a bit odd though. I felt a bit disappointed that some of the early races are only 2 laps as well - you're just getting into it when it's all over.

The tweaks to the decal and paint editors are great though. It's much harder to accidentally screw something up than Forza 2. And the edges don't seem to lose definition as much when shrunk.

Yeah, well I'm still at work so that's as close to playing the game as I can get. I wouldn't be posting on here if I could actually play the damn thing

Least my copy is genuine so I won't get into trouble when the Xbox police come knocking.
I will make sure I post lots of screenshots so that you can all share my experience

Quite disappointed by the instruction manual. It has the controls, a bit about assists and the HUD and that's about it. Nothing about the game modes. Very sparse on info in general.

They sent it out early because of the planned postal strikes at the end of the week. So this time industrial action actually worked in my favour. Guess I owe the Royal Mail guys a drink or something

Of course now I want to get out of work and go home. Stupid work...

I shall use the extra time to get in some much-needed practice. So that I won't lose by half a lap when it comes time to get my ass handed to me by you guys again. Losing by a quarter lap will be a vast improvement