You can incarcerate them against their will, though, in the name of restoring their mental health (which may or may not have ever been lost... there are plenty of rational reasons for wanting to end your life). This is what edge is getting at. It may not be "illegal" per se, but the end result can still be jail time, of a sort.

Yeah. Apparently the Massachusetts proposal had a lot of support initially, but the opposition raised questions over the steps the patients and doctors would have to go through—basically they said it wasn't stringent enough to make sure that the patients were in their right mind in order to be able to consent.

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

On a related note, you Yanks. Which state(s) are voting on right to die?

Massachusetts did. The measure lost by 2%. I voted for it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new ... suicide-article-1.1198305

Quote from edge3147 :

Seriously tho, we are all f*cked still.

ALSO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... z3OT-8&feature=relmfu
I lol'd

Oh, I get it! Because he's black!

It's probably M83...

Quote from PMD9409 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJUz1DO20Q

I'll see you and raise you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQi6Xlm498

It's morning in America, y'all.

Congrats to CO and WA on legalizing weed, too. And to ME for expanding the definition of marriage.

There we go.

Just correcting your spelling, bro.

Polls, Racer X. Polls.

If y'all wanna get in on the schadenfreude as it's happening:

https://twitter.com/GOP_Tears/republican-tears

Quote from CheerioDM :

You misunderstood my post. I guess I worded it wrong for you.
I didn't say rape victims don't matter. And I go both ways on abortion, but we have a population problem everywhere that is hurting the economy and these people that have multiple unplanned pregnancies usually don't think long enough before doing anything.
And birth control pills don't break.

...and Republicans are also for making it more difficult to get birth control.

Quote from CheerioDM :

Condoms breaking and rape do not happen enough to matter. I personally feel surrounded by women that have had unintentional pregnancies and none of them have been rape. It is an ever growing trend to be a lazy whore.

Tell that to someone who had a condom break or was raped, you misogynistic mongoloid (troll).

Quote from Intrepid :

that's because young people are too naive to realise government bailing everyone out isn't viable, probably because on average their tax bill isn't too high. After years and years and years of paying tax older people generally get a little wiser to the game

How's that austerity working out for you over there?

Quote from Bmxtwins :

No, im republican because you should not be allowed to murder an unborn child. It has rights too and shouldnt be killed because you were too lazy to wear a condom

I mean, I already knew you were an idiot, but this really confirms it.

1. There are plenty of Democrats who are pro-life, because a single issue shouldn't define your entire worldview.
2. Your Republican palz want to a) get rid of planned parenthood, thus depriving many young women of access to counseling, preventative care, and contraception, which will only lead to more babies they're not able to take care of, b) want to outlaw abortion, meaning that more babies will be born to women who can't take care of them, and c) want to cut the safety net that helps young mothers who don't have the resources to take care of their children. And what's their answer? Charity, of course... which worked so well that we had to create government assistance programs in the first place.

Quote from PMD9409 :

Actually most of the younger people here like Obama. It's the older ones that see something in Romney.

Most, but not all. It's mostly about upbringing, which biases are foisted upon you by your parents, and how much thinking you do for yourself once you're old enough to think about politics on your own.

Re: third-party voting, or non-voting (quoted, not mine):

Quote :

"If you care about progressive ideals, voting third party is a coward's move, done by privileged ****s who do not have to live with the immediate consequences of a President Romney -- the massive rollback of the safety net, the repeal of Obamacare & the attendant loss in health insurance for tens of millions of people, a delay in civil rights for LGBT folks, the potential tipping of the Supreme Court against Roe v. Wade, etc.

These people need to ask themselves: How can I work to create the change I want to see in this country?

If it's having Supreme Court justices who want to eviscerate women's and labor rights and affirm Citizens United as the law of the land, world without end, amen, then vote third party. If it's having a President who will vote to bayonet the only meaningful progress we've made on health care -- a moral imperative that every progressive worth their salt has been trying to change for 50 years -- then vote third party. If it's having a country that continues to put its dick in its ear while our world is on track to heat up 11 degrees Fahrenheit by 2100, then vote third party. If it's passing a budget that will condemn millions of families to penury, hunger and sickness, all while we make sure that Warren Buffet gets a tax break, then vote third party.

If that's not what you want to see, then hold your stupid ****ing nose and vote for President Obama.

Then, on Wednesday, November 7, get your privileged, idiotic ass out of bed and do the REAL work that we need to build a lasting, progressive coalition in this country. Do it the same way Republicans built their coalition: laboriously, assiduously, taking over one school board and city council and state legislative seat at a time. Campaign on the issues important to you. Build coalitions. It ain't easy. It's painstaking. But it's the only way.

These people are deluded. The reason no third party is viable in this election is because THERE IS NO ELECTORATE FOR A THIRD PARTY. And if Jill Stein became president tomorrow, or Gary Johnson, or Ron Paul, there would still be no electorate for their goals, and they would have to work with a Congress and a judiciary and an American public hostile to everything they want to do. Does that sound like the way you're going to accomplish shit?

They've got it backward. You don't create change in a social system from the top down. You create it from the bottom up. That's what these dickheads need to do. Any other move is an act of appalling selfishness. It's masturbation. It's counter-productive to their stated goals. And given the potential consequences of a Romney administration, it's a ****ing sin, full stop."

Quote from amp88 :

2012 Voting Machines Altering Votes. Cue Racer X in 3, 2, 1...

If it's not faked, this is most likely just a miscalibrated machine. No doubt it's a bad sign, but I think if it were a systematic attempt to funnel votes to Romney it probably wouldn't actually SHOW you choosing Romney when you mean to choose Obama.

edit: don't let me get in the way of the Racer X show, though.

The Jacket is a pretty cool movie. Saw it in the theater way back when.

Quote from ACCAkut :

just a question for the US people: How many different parties/people are there to choose from on the voting machines? Does it differ from state to state/county to county?

Yeah, it varies by state. Each candidate has to fulfill certain requirements to get on the ballot, and those requirements are different in each state. Here in Massachusetts we had four choices for the Presidential/Vice Presidential ticket:

1. Obama/Biden (Democrat)
2. Romney/Ryan (Republican)
3. Johnson/Gray (Libertarian)
4. Stein/Honkala (Green/Rainbow)

You can also write in whoever you want, if you really want to throw your vote away.

Quote from Electrik Kar :

No-one's mentioned Cloud Atlas yet? I went in not knowing anything about it and came out really moved. It's strange and very ambitious. Very long too. Amazing performances from Hanks and Weaving (and Doona Bae and Jim Broadbent, I just looked them up). Terrific score...

Wow.

Read the book.

Movie is not exactly what I'd call "good," but it's certainly ambitious and at times moving, inspiring, exciting, funny, thoughtful. More than you get from most movies these days.

Can't wait for your inevitable aneurysm.

Quote from CSF :

Webber got a clean pass because it only spun him. Perez took out two cars, neither of which were his own!

So they're penalizing based on the outcome rather than the act?