Quote from atledreier :

I agree, and I think AC got this less wrong than many others. What you SHOULD feel in the wheel is centering force, and that you feel pretty well in AC too. In AC I don't feel much of the kurbs or bumps at all. That might be my wheel, though (G25).

In my real car I don't feel much of the bumps and stuff either, but aligning forces is VERY evident (rwd, electric servo)

Agreed, since we don't have the privileges of feelings g-forces in sim racing(yet) the force in everything else needs to be close to perfect for it to actually be 'good' in my books.

Quote from sinbad :

Well I agree to an extent, but ultimately what happens to the steering via FFB should be dictated by what happens to the front wheels. I'm perhaps like you in that "effects" add nothing. Vibration should only be felt if it exerts a torque on the steering column. What matters, and what makes the difference, is the response and reaction to those forces, but ultimately it should be the tyre model which dictates what the FFB is like.

A good FFB system should simply relay those forces to your wheel with as little latency as possible. For me LFS is far better in this way than AC. A sim should prioritise the FFB, not just say "only 50fps? Guess you don't want steering response or feel anymore then".

I also think that with the right hardware and software there is no reason why an FFB system cannot accurately simulate every ounce of "feel" and force you experience in a real car.

I agree to your post 100%.
But normally, as I said, when people think it's what a race car feels like, it's usually over exaggerated, because in the cars with Servo systems I've driven, fx Lamborghini Gallardo GT3, Chevy Camaro, Lacetti (WTCC spec) and so on, usually the servo is more effective than in most road cars. ( <- Meaning that the centering effect in road cars are bigger compared to 'race' cars )

By effective I mean less physical power needed at speed to turn the car etc.

Many times I've had people on TS saying how realistic it felt when they ran the curb, and I've asked ''Why?''... '' I can really feel the rumble strip in my hands and how it's hitting my arms about''.
Thing is, you don't feel this ''Shaking'' in the wheel, the whole car shakes about, the wheel you're holding isn't exactly flickering about, usually I don't feel anything( I feel something, it's just not big like wow this is so tough) in the wheel from Curbs, asphalt damage, contours in the track It's on when you hit someone you can really feel a hit in the wheel, or if you're in a compression area where there is a lot of stress on the car, that's where it gets tough, but apart from that, you don't feel much.

Quote from m4tty :

Please admin make the practice server private because there are some driver that crash al other driver and stay on the race line to do drag race
This is the second evening... We asked several times to drive properly, but nothing has changed.

This is the nick of this 3 driver : [email protected], emilkrog, tigerking959.

Thank you.

lol, all danes....

Quote from sinbad :

I'm pretty sure you know that isn't really true. No matter how much power assistance there is, if your steering suddenly had no centering force at all it would feel a lot different.
That said I don't think the ffb is exceptional in AC, judging purely from the tech preview.

Sure there is resistance, but mostly, when my friends or 'hardcore'-simmers say : Dennis try this out, this is the most amazing feel I've ever felt'' It's usually over exaggerated, I'm sure Kunos has made something fantastic here and I'm probably just blowing the bubbles, but there is NOTHING that can feel 'real' compared to a racing car, there is just too many elements you can't simulate, sadly.

Quote from Klouczech :

Thanks, but I need more power and better tires, because It was too understeery (your Camaro doesn't know that word)

Looks like the whole setup on the car was a bit soft though could use more rear roll and damper stiffness, but all in all the car seems to be driving 'ok', don't know what the changes are but my instinct tells me it's very slim changes, so again, GOOD driving.

Quote from BlueFlame :

When you feel the force feedback, you'll have wished you'd had it long before.

I've heard it all before.

All feels the same after 2 laps, and if it feels 'amazing' it's probably not real, because in a race car you don't feel shit unless the wheel falls off, or the servo is dead.

It was bad ass, but Anti-Lag systems etc. is going to sound dope as well, I think we're underestimating the whole thing a bit here.

60, Dennis Lind, Dennis93, nFinity eSports

He got overly excited when I got on my knees

If you gave me a car in that spec, I'd totally transport my Camaro to you.

Quote from Klouczech :

I made this video from only GoPro Cam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQLXX8TvQq8


I don't understand, why has this track name Czech Ring.
When I realize, what Slovakia Ring means

Nice driving mate

Actually, I never noticed that... Nice find!


Looks like a bomb.

Well that's quite exciting actually

thanks for the heads up!

Was good ya.

Let's do it!

Fun Dennis Fact #32 : He does photobombs!

Come get me babe.

also, very related :

VIOLENT fart, yes.

I can record the farts that comes from my 1.4 TFSI Scirocco, then we can compare.


EDIT: also, it's probably not as bad as blown diffuser

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Dennis only now found his penis, so he's gonna be buying it.

Yeah I found a very nice one too, diffidently worth my money.

Quote from bmwe30m3 :

Dennis fun fact #69: Dennis loves me.

yes <3

Quote from Bose321 :

Eww Denis likes girls.

Ew no.

Quote from xtraction :

What is this thread and why did i read everything. Nice wheelz Den

This is thread, hello.

Thanks <3

wat

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> i cry


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Last edited by Dennis93, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 10:03.

Moar flames pls.

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