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durbster
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They seem a little too close to the Golf in the range to me but they look much sexier. A mate of mine has one on order but won't get it for another few months.

There's a forum here with a few pics from real owners in the delivery room section (so they do exist ):
http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=1
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durbster
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Quote from senn :So true, i miss the mid 90's
Boring cars are everywhere now, whatever happened to a sports car for the masses, something most ppl can at least ASPIRE to own, even if they can't quite buy it now.

durbster
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Quote from mookie427 :it was a heavily biased study, therefore in my eyes what it set out to prove it didn't

Nevertheless, it was still done and the findings have been presented and made publically available and yet those arguing to the contrary still remain a tiny minority.

The detail, consequences and scale will always be debatable (it's still science at the end of the day ) but as far as I can see, the majority of those people who actually know what they're talking about are saying that the climate is being affected by human activity. And importantly, they've been saying it for many years now i.e. before it became fashionable.

For me, it's not that hard to believe. Nature is a perfectly balanced network of elements that all rely on each other. If you remove one, it often has an effect all the way down the chain. If you fly over Europe, there's very little land that hasn't been changed in some way by humans. If England was once almost entirely trees and now it's almost entirely fields, that's surely going to have some kind of impact on the atmosphere.

What's equally convincing is that there's a lot of money to be made from this new industry so I think you're right to be wary of the motives.
durbster
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Quote from mookie427 :at least we agree on one thing. Al Gore is the biggest tosser around today, his film based on unsubstantiated and unproveable 'evidence'....we have all been conned into paying more taxes for the supposed reductions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and slowly we are waking up to this greenwash.

His film was based on the results of the largest international study into the subject there has ever been. That's hardly "unsubstantiated and unproveable".
durbster
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Quote from danowat :I dare to say this, but I get the same "solid" tyre feelings from GT5p with my G25, as I do from Nkp with my G25........

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying for one minute the tyre physics in LFS are perfect, or even close, but they do a VERY good representation of how an inflated tyre feels.

It seems you are in the minority on this so maybe it's worth playing with the FF settings a bit, as all reports I've read have been good. I was a bit underwhelmed by the new version at first but after tweaking the FF settings I found a great feel. For me it's right up there with iRacing physics-wise.
durbster
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That Scirocco looks mean but seems a little unecessary in the VW lineup.

Quote from tristancliffe :And you wonder why most LFSers of the old order didn't want real cars in LFS; we get the "why not this version? why not that model? Why not the other marque? Why is the speedo slightly wrong? How come I can pull 0.98g and the real car can only do 0.91g..." people. It's going to be so annoying.

Has that been a problem in any sim that has real cars in it?

If the real car has 7% more grip in the sim then it mean something is seriously wrong with it, and can be fixed to suit. With fantasy cars you can make them do what you want without having to make allowances for the reality. You can get away with a lot more.
durbster
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I've got a feeling they did this in Taxi or Taxi 2 (the French films that is, not the remakes). I always wondered if it was possible or just a film stunt.
durbster
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Quote from Bladerunner :...I now drive a bus to the two main British Airports..and you would not believe the security that I have to put up with..the average guy in the street may think its all blown over, but we have to be constantly on our guard, because you never know when and where it is going to happen again...

Exactly. As I said:
Quote :Terrorism's emotional impact far outweighs its threat

If you drive a bus then, logically speaking, you're far more likely to be killed or injured in an RTA or something. In fact, you're no less likely to be injured tripping on the step getting off the bus.

But because terrorism targets some deep, primal fear, it has more impact on you. That's why it's such an effective weapon. In your position, I'd be feeling exactly the same too.

Quote from Bladerunner :Or are you all happy in the knowledge that it will never happen to you? The people on that bus thought they were safe as well.

Yep, I'm pretty content that it won't happen to me. It might, but so might a billion other things. Some people in the world have to deal with death every single day so all I can do is count myself lucky that I'm not in their position.

Quote from Bladerunner :Oh dear... maybe saying that I would like to see the threat of terrorism removed can be construed as a racist comment.

Terrorism has been around as long as there has been governments. It isn't going anywhere. The United States itself started off with terrorist acts against London (like when they came to burn down a load of ships - but forgot to bring some matches )

The best we mortals can do is hope we don't get another Tony Blair pushing us closer to the lions mouth.
durbster
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Quote from Bladerunner :Unless you live and work in London and use public transport....

Terrorism's emotional impact far outweighs its threat, on a ratio that is bordering on ridiculous. You have such a minute chance of being involved in a terrorist incient that by rights it should barely be worthy of consideration.

Almost the same people died last year in "falls involving a chair" as died in the London bombings. It's not keeping me awake.
durbster
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Quote from SamH :Umm.. no it isn't, just FTR. I think you may have been clipped by a "they hate us for our freedoms" Bush lie/myth, tbh. They're offended by our support of a middle-east aggressor, actually. And well they might be.

Well that's not the whole truth. There is a mujahideen group in Britain who are fully intent on turning it into Islamic state. They want Islam to be not just a dominant religion, but the only religion in the world.

They are nutters, of course, and no different to the extremist groups that have always been around in some capacity. The big question is whether they are gaining any ground or not.

There is also the major problem of how they're teaching the Koran in the middle-east, emphasising or manipulating translations to emphasise its more aggressive aspects. That part is genuinely scary.
durbster
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Blair's immigration policy failed miserably, there's no doubt about that. They screwed it up. It's not as bad as the BNP would have you believe but it is and will continue to be a problem.

However, it's not so bad that people should be throwing weight behind any extremist party. The Tory's have occasionally touted sensible policies that could have worked, but we'll never know now.

I have no problem with immigrants. We can learn a lot from other cultures. I lived in a street with a lot of muslim families and they were brilliant neighbours. Give me them over English middle-class chavvy knob heads any day.

However, Britain's infrastructure wasn't designed to cope with this sudden spike in population, so it has to be controlled for that reason alone.
durbster
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Quote from Bidmouth Strikes Again :We can complain about immigrants as much as we like, but we're guilty of immigration too.

We've been like that for several Thousand years.

Indeed. We built an empire on a system of immigration, so it's quite ironic that the BNP are claiming to be protecting the British way of life, when it was the British that started mass migration.

Rather than national service, people should be forced to live abroad for a year or two. Anywhere will do. Until you've experienced other cultures, you can't really comment on them (and I don't mean two weeks holiday in Magaluf).
durbster
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Quote from flymike91 :who leaked this list? I'm pretty sure that its not cool to name these people if they don't want to be named, anonymity is a pretty basic way to respect one's privacy. I don't want to see anyone get hurt because their addresses are now public. I could definitely see someone's house getting lit up over this.

I agree. Some of them certainly do have pretty extreme views but labelling them all with the same brush is idiocy, and there will be consequences of this list being made public. There may be members who are so purely as a protest against Government policy, for example.

Quote from flymike91 :On another note, is the BNP the only conservative party in Britain? I went on the BNP website and it was too far right, even for me.

No, the conservative party is the main one and are currently in opposition. The BNP are just a fringe group really but because of the total inadequacy of Blair's government to control immigration, they gained a lot of members.

There's also UKIP - the UK Independence Party - who aim to pull the UK out of the EU and make us a completely independent nation. That largely means pulling out of the EU so that Britain would not have to abide by European law as we do currently (in some aspects).
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durbster
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Quote from Shotglass :yay for once the guy has a good idea... probably the first good one in his life

Hmm, well he's a multi-millionaire so I'd say he's probably made a few good decisions in his life.

This one, however, sounds like he's going senile.
durbster
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Well, I think you're both right actually
durbster
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Quote from sinbad :...Make the front wing a bit narrower, and the rear a bit wider and these cars would look a lot better, the latter of course making them a great deal quicker...

Yeah let's do that and err, make it impossible to overtake again. Have people forgotten the whole point of these rule changes already? :rolleyes:

Although we've had an absolute classic F1 year in 2008, most of the passing was done because of the weather mixing things up.
durbster
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Being a Flash developer, I don't have quite the same concerns as wien, but being a former web developer I can understand them completely. IE6 was a nightmare to code for, and everything had to be fudged around it's stupid inconsistencies and refusal to adopt standards.

IE8 should, in theory, conform to international standards but we'll see.
durbster
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Quote from The Moose :I'm not going to start a "my sims better than yours" argument, but i cant believe you just said what you did. rFactor is just bad. Exciting to drive? in what way?

I haven't touched LFS since I bought rFactor. Whenever I go back to it after netkar or rFactor it feels numb and lifeless. Plus, pretty much all my old GPL mates now play rFactor or iRacing and that suggests I'm not alone. Anyway, it's personal preference so there isn't much point going on about this really

Quote from The Moose :And what are all the fabulous new ideas iRacing has brought to sim racing?

1. Safety rating
2. Subscription model
3. Social networking thingy
4. Centrally controlled race network
5. Auto-matching system
6. Laser scanned tracks
7. No usernames - nowhere to hide

Can you give me any sim in the last 20 years that has had more new ideas in it than iRacing, implemented so coherently?

Quote :I know I Know what Iracing does over other sims. It's cuts your leg off and says you have any other body parts you wish to sell? Cause thats how much it's going to cost you to play.

It isn't cheap compared to other sims of course, but it's no more expensive than any other hobby. I used to race R/C cars which cost far more than iRacing.

When you consider how much LFS has given you for its price tag, it seems foolish of developers to continue a pay-once system. What's in it for them? It's just business at the end of the day, and like any product, if it's priced too high it will fail. If it doesn't fail, then they've got it right.
durbster
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Quote from SamH :It seems very obvious that a sim's influence on a genre is something that you can actually only gauge when the NEXT sim is released. That's when you know if the sim has influenced the direction that the genre goes.

I disagree.

I'm certain that any developer who is working on a simulator will be looking at the features in iRacing. iRacing has already brought more new ideas to sim-racing than any other, and ideas are what creates influence. If devs are looking at iRacing and its various systems, it's already had an influence.


Quote from The Very End :I have to admit I tried Rfactor as a pirate :yarr:
But I did not try any mod's etc. For me I make my statement on how it's released, not how other people enchant it later

Erm, then you've entirely missed the point of rFactor. What comes with it is just token content. It was entirely designed to be a basis for modding. Personally I rate it above LFS as a package, simply because it's more exciting to drive.
durbster
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Quote from AndroidXP :I dunno, but the video kinda looks like someone was fighting with slight steering lag. The way oversteer and its correction looks like seems somewhat off to me

Yeah, I noticed that and I've seen it on most iracing videos too. When you drive it's absolutely fine though so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
durbster
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Quote from The Very End :Rcraptor on that list? :|

Yes, because it was the first completely moddable sim. The list is about influence, not realism, and rFactor introduce an entirely new angle to the genre.
durbster
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :The UK has some of the worlds worst road qualities of any country in the developed western world, they are widely regarded to be some of the, if not the worst in Europe.

Sorry, but that sounds like a comment from somebody who's never driven abroad. UK roads are fine.

The only roads I've driven on that are consistently excellent are French toll roads but you have to pay to use them so they bloody well should be.

I'm sure the answer to the original question is simply down to geography and the road network. Australia has a very similar landscape with the US and its trucks are the same. If you have to drive an artic' in heavy traffic, as European drivers have to regularly, you'll appreciate not having an enormous nose sticking out the front of your vehicle.
durbster
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Yes, it's definitely not a replacement for the Seven.

Interesting project indeed, and I know that in their initial design meetings they already discussed ways to ensure they do not create The Homer.
durbster
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Quote from NotAnIllusion :iRacing is subscription based, imo its influence can't really be measured until it's matured a bit.

But the fact that it is subscription based means it is a revolution in sim-racing. Not to mention the safety rating, ladder system, race classes etc.

If iRacing all goes horribly wrong and its only legacy is that nobody else will try that route, then it has still influenced the sim-racing world one way or another.

I basically agree with the list. LFS never really revolutionised the genre. It arrived offering a lot of promise, but always seemed to be missing that leap forward required to grab the majority of the established sim-community. It has evolved into a decent sim, but even today I can't think of anything it does that would influence other sim-developers.

What LFS did better than anyone else was the communication between the devs and the community, which has been nothing short of amazing, but that doesn't really impact on the sim-racing genre in particular. You could apply that to any software development.
durbster
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Quote from 5haz :What on Earth were they fighting over I wonder?

One took something from the other. It was the last straw...
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