Quote from Racer X NZ :

Software dude......

Software that controls the hardware.

Quote from Degats :

Long story short, turns out Visual Studio 2015 installed some Hyper-V stuff that was wrecking LFS performance. I disabled the Hyper-V hypervisor (rebooted) and now I get 100~200fps on Westhill open config with 40 players, 200~300 on a Kyoto race with a handful of players.

Like I said, learn to configure your hardware.


@Bigbob1993, If you can't exceed 100 FPS on LFS you need new hardware.

Quote from AnnieC :

I remember Scawen writing about realtime reflections for cars and track shaders etc...

I remember him talking about the VWS, then Rockingham, then new tyre physics, then open configurations, then more objects for the layout editor, then Oculus support, and now a new Westhill.


Scawen talks a lot but delivers rarely. If wants to ban me for speaking my opinion then good on him but this is this sim went from magazine articles and the talk of sims in 2005 to having memes made about its lack of development or care from the developers.

I am sad that I ever contributed money to such lazy developers.



And as for Cargame.nl - I live off my own income in my own house, internettryhard. When did you buy Daves account because I can tell by the awful typing, this is not Dave.

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IF those features ever come.

Years waiting on "new physics". In that time, Household PC computing power has increased exponentially, yet we still don't even have a physics test patch BUT we can have support for the Derpulus Rift.



This graphic speaks plenty. Give up on supporting old hardware, its being replaced every couple of years now.

Last edited by edge3147, Sun, 16 Aug 2015 21:43.

Just took a stroll through Westhill on 0.6H and never once dipped below 200 FPS.

PC Baddies.

Brain dead sheep will always be brain dead sheep.

I had 0 issues with performance on ALL of the Westhill Test Patches on my AMD FX 4130 and R7 270X.

Learn to configure your PC, scrubs.

Quote from englishlord :

a jerky 30-40fps

So do you think when you go see a movie at a theater the movie is "jerky" because standard cinema frame rate is still 24 FPS unless you go see IMAX which then is only 48 FPS. This stupid bickering over frame rate and LFS performance is stupid. If you can't achieve decent FPS in a 12 year old simulator, UPGRADE YOUR HARDWARE.

If you can afford to buy a G27 or an Oculus Rift then you can afford to buy a decent graphics card. Stop making the developers waste time on new things like your poor performance related to outdated hardware.

@Lfs Devs. You can purchase an AMD FX CPU and a current generation NVIDIA graphics card that will gladly give you more than 100 FPS in LFS for really really cheap now. Stop catering to the few and start advancing this simulator that has been stalled of any major progress for years now.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

snip......the issue is that they are on by default.

No the issue is people are too lazy to take time and learn the software they are using. They expect nothing will go wrong so they don't need to learn how to change settings or do anything other than what they want to do. Lack of understanding of the technology you are using is the problem, not the object. Can't blame a gun for killing someone, just like you can't blame a computer for releasing private information when you don't know how to use it properly in the first place.

Must suck living in NZ, sounds like everyone is trying to steal each others identity there.

Haters gonna hate. Change will always have those who resist it, but in the end they all come around.

Quote from AlienT. :

Personally when I got banned I used to hit my wife over the head with a large stick, bugger her senseless, then go an play minecraft while waiting on the police to arrive.


Never been banned since, infact never been allowe a manual gear stick with my sim rig since.

best post evar!

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/

It would have been amazing and revolutionary 5 years ago, but at this point, it's done, implemented and a successful feature. IIRC, Kunos intended on doing it for AC as well (and still might, given AC is pretty well integrated into Steam).

On top of that, Workshop doesn't cost money for anyone to use, although I hope Valve does try paid mods again, as I think mod creators do deserve compensation for their work.

Mods are not intended to be a way for wannabe coders to try and mooch money off the developers of said program that they created a modification for. Mods are created from editing existing code that is already property of another person, just because you spent time editing someone elses code doesn't make it perfectly fine for you to try and earn money off someone else.

People thinking mods are original works are delusional, without the original code, your "mod" would be nothing but useless characters.

Quote from matze54564 :

Hello, windows 10 will give us a 3D revolution. I hope LFS will be soon on Windows 10 and DX12 or Linux and Vulkan. Its nice that it run yet in Windows XP, but Windows 10 is killing Windows XP now.

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/webwelt/article141502890/3D-Grafik-in-Spielen-steht-eine-Revolution-bevor.html

I am using in future only mobile devices, because the ATX Items need to much power and in dont want give the power industry a money. Hoping 16nm CPUs with integrated Graphics coming soon....

For LFS to support any DX12 features, the game would require an entire rewrite basically. Not going to happen.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

Well, GOG generally does no security.

Actual example to stop the bitchfest. The Witcher 3 on GOG has no lockdown. Buy it, install where ever, thats where the 'Piracy' versions come from, yet, if you look online. People are buying their versions cus.....
And according to 'some' people here, stopping piracy is really important......

In my opinion, stuff will always be stolen. If it's actually good and offers more for a paid for version, Then it will be brought and people will race online.....

Key point, the pirates are stealing Witcher 3 and not caring about online.

The concept isn't rocket science.

My thought is, Offer lots on demo, ignore piracy, offer the full game with online servers.....

Ummmmm, isn't that already the plan ???????

So, lets get the legal online servers offering new (post 2010) content ............

Please feel free to disagree

#1 The Witcher 3 has NO MULTIPLAYER MODE even when purchased legally

#2 LFS is already so cracked and easily obtainable that even those playing it illegally are so bored with the content they have to resort to VOB and other kinds of mods.

#3 LFS will NEVER go to Steam or GOG because quite simply that means less income from the devs and it also means that on top of the tax issues they also have to deal with w/e nonsense Steam puts in place



To summarize:

LFS is doomed to a slow and painful development/death of development process. The devs are too stubborn to sell out or to bring on more help to speed things up. They are very comfortable watching money trickle in and being a laughing stock in the sim world because there has been nothing in the form of new content or game changing developments. I have a great respect for the progress Scavier has been able to achieve while working solo but the time has come that LFS needs to be put in the list of games that could have been great if not led by such stubborn developers.

Good day LFS, troll on.

Quote from Texpelt88 :

Sorry, but this is gonna sound rude: ENOUGH WITH THE FRICKIN TIRES! I get it, it's a big deal. But, come on, talk about something outside the box or new. Not that. Please.

Unfortunately, as much as I agree with you, the FRICKEN TIRES are holding up all other major progress at this point.

Quote from Bose321 :

Why would you pay (that much) for an application that can be downloaded for free? I'm sure most Cruise insims around the internet can do all of that and/or more.

Because all the free insims are unfinished and bug filled?

Quote from 5tag :

And there's your answer everybody. He's only interested in the off-topic part.

Let me save him the trouble.

"We are still working towards the physics which will come before Rockingham and Scirocco. Scirocco will be free to all S1+ license holders. Then will come S3 + Rockingham."


There you go.

While Oculus has better specs right now, I will gladly wait for HTC and Valve to catch up. HTC has been in the hardware game for quite some time compared to Oculus kind of appearing out of thin air. The only reason the Oculus is better speced right now is because they were the first to come out with dev kits. Now that their is competition, development on VR should start picking up speed.

Only time will tell.

Just about any prebuilt PC these days will run LFS with no problems, don't think you need to break the bank to enjoy LFS.

=D

Love the FPS increase. Excited for more.

@Scawen - I appreciate the direct response and honesty. I will continue to check back for updates periodically, just wish the pace was a little quicker.

Still does not appear to be 110% effort on their part. Here and there we get some small updates, but its been years since anything great has come to LFS. Yes there has been some good small patches here and there but nothing great or amazing.

In the time is has taken to get this 1 track updated, others have updated textures for multiple tracks. Yes I understand what they are doing is more complex, but how long does it really take? If someone wants to get something done, they do it and they get praised. Someone who wants to just get by and do things on their own free will gets mocked and ridiculed.

I know they each have families and lives, but at some point you have to get back to work and stop using it as an excuse to not do work.

Last edited by edge3147, Sun, 8 Feb 2015 16:06.

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3 Months ago, just saying. Seems to me the Devs do not really put 110% into LFS, more like 50% because there seems to be no rush on anything. Oh wait, I forgot, VATMOSS was an absolute must since it would mean no sales or new revenue but everything else can just be done when it's done.

Race Hard, Have Fun, See You Later.

I would much rather see a fictional or real super/hypercar than some old half car/half truck POS.