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What kind of team are you looking for? Race
Age: 26
Country: USA
Preferred Car/Track: none really.
Average Laptime on Your Preferred Car/Track: as above
How Active Are You? I am available most times of the day
What Kind of Control do you use? Logitech MOMO
Time Zone: GMT -7

HTC One m8

Quote from shmall719 :

yea it would be interesting to try one out, but even at 150mph and 60fps you get an update every 3 feet, so 120 would be every 1.5 feet, 240 might be over kill at every 9" unless you are flying a fast jet I guess, I will try once I have upgraded the rest of my PC first, as with LFS I can get 1000 fps already lol so an updated picture for my mind every 2" getting a bit silly now

Ya in racing I can see it not being so beneficial but in a first person shoot, those extra frames might give you the edge when trying to catch someone peeking out from behind a corner or box.

They actually make monitors now that operate in 240hz, which would theoretically give you up to 240 fps.

http://gaming.eizo.com/products/foris_fg2421/

Mine looks and runs great.

Excited for the new westhill. Keep it up and thank you.

Your name:John H
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Chosen Number (0-99): 12

Quote from CodeLyoko1 :

#5 get a decent server provider with ddos protection

Even with decent protection you will get moments of lag and possible connections dropping.

You can't stop the DDoS. You can't stop WKD from getting accounts apparently either.

These are your options.

#1 Learn to deal with it.

#2 Stop hosting servers.

#3 Get a new license and IP address and then don't let anyone know it is you.

#4 Quit LFS

Could not resist.

Even though I am upset with the progress, I still love this game, it just feels old right now.

I would like to honestly and truely thank Scawen for breaking down my post and giving a reply to each section. It caught me off guard but I thank you for breaking down the way you see things.

I will resume trying to quietly wait for the next update/test patch/whatever lies ahead for us.

Thank you again for the reply Scawen. Much appreciated.

Quote from CarlLefrancois :

exactly!

remember a while ago, say 8 years, processors were always faster and faster? we had 400 MHz pentiums then 800Mhz pentiums then next thing computers were 1.6 gigahertz?

all that stopped some years back. we hit just over 3, maybe 4 gigahertz and just stopped.

the reason is - get this - the limitation of the speed of light. because the wires are a certain length in the computer, it takes a certain amount of time (speed of light) for the electrical signals to make their way from one end to the other.

we just can't go faster. if intel or AMD could have made an 8 gigahertz processor they would have.

XP on a 3 gigahertz processor runs lfs the same speed as windows 9 will on the same processor.

adding multiple cores and doing parallel computing works great but only if the computation can be divided, calculated, and put back together without overhead. in real life you get something like 20% gain from having 2 processors instead of 1.

Scawen might cook up something like Id software did using Binary Space Partition trees in Doom, but processors aren't going to get much faster.

Thinking that CPU's are as good as they are going to get is very naive to think.

Someone will discover a way to progress the CPU and it's technology, it just hasn't been discovered yet.

It's like talking to a brick wall here.

I am more concerned about the hardware than I am the software aspect.

Progression of the physics will eventually need a hardware boost. Start adding things like weather and engine breakdowns or other mechanical errors that will need some sort of calculation to determine these things and you are eventually going to hit a ceiling when catering to this older hardware or hardware that doesn't have appropriate support because it is on an OS that isn't supported like Windows is. I know you want to cater to Mac and Linux, but from a business standpoint. Windows has and will remain the dominate platform for PC gaming. There are plenty of ways for Mac and Linux users to use LFS without having to specifically cater to that specific OS. This seems like a dragging the feet kind of method if you ask me. On one hand you want to progress LFS and make it better and add more content/features but on the other hand you are worrying about a fraction of the player base because you fear they won't figure out a way to play LFS because of OS issues. LFS fans that use all 3 platforms will certainly figure out a way to play LFS if there is much more development progress going on. At this current pace, I see everyone leaving and complaining because again, the developers vision doesn't match what the player base wants.

I think it is pretty clear that over the last 5 years since the announcement of VWS and Rockingham, people are more concerned with having the game updated and refreshed rather than all of this other development that has taken place.

If the developers want to keep being blinded by their own view for LFS, then go ahead and continue down this path.

Whatever you decide to do, you will always have someone that is upset. The question is, do you want to have a majority of the player base upset because of the lack of progress or would you rather have a fraction of the player base upset because of loss of support of hardware/software.

In any technical situation, there will always be a point where in order to progress, you have to force those that use your product to upgrade and purchase something that will perform with you technical advances

Quote from lfsrm :

the vulnerability problem is not on xp, but on the person who are using their pc and download the first link that appear on a random popup.

and why you want him to change DX, while lfs has not yet exploited even 1% of DX9 possibility, the change are needed only if scawen want to make some features that DX9 hasn't.

The point I am trying to make is development progress might be faster than it is currently by catering to today's hardware and software and not hardware that is a decade old now.

I work with technology on a daily basis and the overall stubbornness of the public to accept change with technology is just ridiculous. Technology advances and changes to improve performance, reliability and security. Sticking with something that is over 10 years old is just silly when you look at the advances technology has made since that time.

I understand your point in wanting to stay with XP and DX9, but look at this from a technical standpoint. XP is not longer supported with security updates. Meaning that everyone who is using XP is going to be very vulnerable to being exploited and exposed. We are talking about an OS that is over 12 years old. How do you expect to progress and develop a physics engine that isn't slow when you are catering to hardware that is equally old, slow and out of date.

To advance you have to move out of your comfort zone and try new things, otherwise those who are not afraid of change and progression will move past you like a super car flying by a moped on the motorway.

**Side Note**

I am not saying abandon all of your current work and start over or start upgrading to DX10 right away, but for the future of LFS this needs to be considered. Computers today are sooo much better than basically every machine running XP unless someone is such a diehard fan of XP that they have a monster gaming system running it.

Last edited by edge3147, Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:37.

The fact that the devs are trying to cater to a now unsupported OS and it's hardware is just another fine example of wasted time on things that need to be forgotten and moved on from.

XP IS DEAD, do yourself a favor and buy a new PC. Any new PC that is purchased today or any day after this day will more than be capable of running LFS without any sort of upgrade.

analog smooth is in the misc tab in the LFS options. I used 95 analog smooth for my xbox controller and works very nicely.

New Theory...... Scawen, Victor and Eric can't agree upon the future of LFS halting all major updates and progress?

Quote from RicardoB10 :

Sadly i'm already some months in ST, Stobart Trucking on ETS2MP.
Will see you on the road, See ya birdie!

All good, I am actually joining ST also, no time to run anything gaming related right now, taking on a few big projects at work so I am mostly busy working these days.

UGC was once a fun place to cruise and have a good time, but due to recent employment changes I no longer have to time or desire to run a cruise server. You can join UGC on the ETS2 Multiplayer Alpha if you have the steam version as it only works with steam versions.

See you on the European Roads on ETS2.

~ [UGC]Birdman

Drove off the lot with only 8 miles on it.

Our insim testing has been delayed slighty due to an unforseen bug issue. We are doing some extra private testing to make sure the public testing goes smoothly. We will post an update when we feel the new insim is ready for public testing.

~[UGC] Staff

The new insim testing will begin Monday April 14th. Had to move the date due to my work schedule. This move will allow me to be available to patch any bugs that are found, would not have been able to this weekend due to work.