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edge3147
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Quote from MadCatX :Yes he did and he is absolutely right. Situation with Anakin or whoever that guy was was totally different as he was exploiting a vulnerability in LFS code. Analyzing and reporting such an incident is the correct thing to do. This thread is all about a plain simple DoS attack. Every networking service is vulnerable to DoS and it's the responsibility of the person who actually runs the server to do their best to minimize the damage when such an attack takes place. Perma-banning the attacker is more of a petty revenge than an actual security measure, you don't need LFS account to DoS LFS servers. (BTW, I don't see any conclusive evidence that HeCosmin was really behind this attack except for a few forum posts so I don't see on what grounds he should be banned)

Victor's post should be stickied and displayed to everyone who goes on the forum whining that someone has downed their server.

it is not about stopping the attack. it is about obeying the user agreement we all agreed to when we bought LFS, or does nobody read that stuff???

He came to our servers saying he was going to bring them down, then BAM, they go down and stay down. Coincidence? Doubtful.

If the devs don't act, it's like saying the agreement is void and no one has to follow it.

It's not about stopping the attack its about the principal of the matter something children do not understand.
edge3147
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Quote from IsaacPrice :I did, but its completely different. If someone gains admin to a server, then that is a game issue and the game is at fault, and the game has to be altered to address the issue. They need the devs help to fix that, in this case its not the devs issue to fix, they can ban the user but that won't fix the issue. If they don't know anything about IT etc, then they could make the misunderstanding, but in the 2nd post they are then pointed in the right direction. Its 2 completely different cases.

It's not 2 different cases, we were not asking the LFS devs to stop his DDoS attacks, we were merely asking them to punish this fool for breaking the user agreement we all agreed to when we purchased this software.

How is that so hard to understand and comprehend?
edge3147
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Quote from IsaacPrice :You're getting butthurt out of nothing, HE CANT HELP MORE THAN HE HAS. Perhaps he could have pointed out that actually he did ban them, but its not like he was given a chance either, someone spotted it first. What I posted is what I interpret from his post, so he has already said what I said. If you own a server, have an issue with the server and come on crying how it's totally unfair and saying how the devs should fix it...then I can imagine why they would find that frustrating. The community itself maybe could have pointed you better in the right direction of how to fix it, but it wouldn't have been anything extra to what google could do for you.

If the dev is faced with someone wanting help, but doesnt help themselves...I don't know what you expect them to do. If they would have the time to sugarcoat I would be more concerned because there hasnt been a physics update or a new track for so long but they arent so busy that they can help more in this situation.

Did you even read my post????

Quote from edge3147 :
We merely did the same thing that was done when anakin skywalker was using the exploit to gain admin to servers, so the response from victor was kinda uncalled for, nobody jumped down their throat for making that thread.

It's amazing, this is a community forum and when the community tries to get something done on it, it ends up 2 ways. You get trolled endlessly or your get no response from where it really matters.

This community should start acting like a community and less like 4CHAN.


LLM(BMX and Mustang), ixion (Franky), and all the other Trolls always have something negative to say it seems.
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edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from DANIEL-CRO :He received master server ban few moments ago

Quote from IsaacPrice :He's just telling you that if you want to stop them, you have to do step 1 and 2 yourselves because step 3 won't stop them by itself. He's trying to help, but he can only do so much. He can't do anything more than what he is doing.

This is the response that should have come from an Admin, not the response that was given.

We merely did the same thing that was done when anakin skywalker was using the exploit to gain admin to servers, so the response from victor was kinda uncalled for, nobody jumped down their throat for making that thread.

It's amazing, this is a community forum and when the community tries to get something done on it, it ends up 2 ways. You get trolled endlessly or your get no response from where it really matters.

This community should start acting like a community and less like 4CHAN.
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edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from Victor :Thanks for actually posting something useful in this thread.



Second post in this thread was the right one. You guys should have spent time learning how to secure a server rather than write here about how bad he is.

Because you see, _I_ cannot stop him from here. You can.
I can ban his account, but it's likely that he'll just get pissed more and dos your server 24/7. So how will that have helped?

You're a fun target because you're an easy target. Do you want to remain that? You'll be better off learning some things about server security (how to identify malusers and how to stop them).

End User Agreement says pretty clearly something like this is not allowed, so why to try and make us the bad guys? We are just trying to get this resolved and let the community know about this guy.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 0321&highlight=hacker

Don't come and try to tell us what we did is wrong, we were letting the community know about this guy just like that last thread about someone hacking LFS so how is this any more wrong than the other thread that caused a new test patch to be tested?


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edge3147
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Quote from Mustangman759 :LOLWUT do you even know what your talking about?
Although I don't like cruise servers I hate to see it happen to people

The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(8)) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

I am sure that isnt the only law being broken, but who cares right? Nobody on this forum could give 2 shits because they find it funny.
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edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from Franky.S :YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

one less cruise server

Don't worry, your team will fail soon enough.
edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from cargame.nl :What law?

I think not much laws exist in Moldavia. Especially no internet laws.

Its one of the poorest countries and the poorest in Europe.

Theft of services, he is stealing the bandwidth we pay for denying us usage of it by commit said crime.

The fact that you try to justify his actions by saying they are not illegal is just crazy.
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edge3147
S3 licensed
LSC has closed because of this douche bag, I hope everyone is happy. F.U.C.K.ing bullshit.


Quote from lscruise.net :
Hello,
We have decided to close down, yet again.

As you may have seen, over the past few weeks we've had a rival cruise server attacking us just because they were jealous.
Since yesterday we've had another idiot attacking us because he was banned for threatening to DDoS us.
It seems like the LFS community isn't in a good enough state to be able to continue running this server.
Maybe we'll see you again in a year or so, maybe not...

[LsC] Team.

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edge3147
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Quote from cargame.nl :I don't understand how this should be a problem for the developers?

You think blocking his account will make a difference?

These kind of kids (mostly kids), like attention. Guess what you are doing right now...

Blocking his account would keep him from messing with the S2 servers by not allowing him to connect and optain an IP address and force him to buy a new license if he wants to continue his childish and destructive behavior, soooooooo it kind of is a problem the Devs could address.

They addressed the code flaw that allowed non-admins to connect as admin, why can't they issue a permaban for someone who is:

1) Breaking the LAW.
2) Causing havoc and disrupting the LFS community
3) Has no regard for his actions.

He is stealing bandwidth and time from the owners of the server and developers of this game.
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edge3147
S3 licensed
=( This is very upsetting and disgusting. Someone taking the time to DDoS a video game server is just sad.
edge3147
S3 licensed
they cant do anything about this.
edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from Bmxtwins :Congrats you can google. Doesn't mean you're right.

Makes more sense than believing our actions as a race and a whole hasn't affected the earth in anyway.
edge3147
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Quote from Crashgate3 :So why doesn't it flow south from Australia, Africa and South America?


Seems to me there's something VERY fishy going on in the Falkland Islands. I vote super-villain's top secret volcano hideout and factory complex.

do you not see the image?

the convection goes to the north and south poles. you must be blind.
edge3147
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Quote from tristancliffe :Can't tell if serious or stupid... But I'll use the Heat Flows North joke from now on anyway.

its not about flowing north, its about convection.



http://goo.gl/ws66B
edge3147
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... NMZsk&feature=branded

:monkey::monkey::elefant::elefant::bounce8::jedi:
edge3147
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Quote from BlueFlame :Troll.

U mad cause I know what I am talking about and you dont?

it would have to SINK into the ground to get to the core and not RISE into the atmosphere. You don't know what you are talking about and its very apparent.
edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from BlueFlame : it flows upward and outward to the core of the earth until it cools down enough filter with the rest of the matter in the sky.

It has to pass through the ground to reach the core and that would mean it would have to SINK into the ground and not RISE into the atmosphere. You don't know what you are talking about and its very apparent.

Ill put up the dumby friendly picture for you.

edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from BlueFlame :Are you for real? Or did suddenly China move to the north pole?

Are you stupid?
I said directly north of the largest populations.

The earth is round remember, last time i check that means that above china and india would be north, and the last time i checked heat rises so if the earth is round and heat rises where would all the changes be seen? Directly at the north pole and arctic due to the fact that physics don't lie.
edge3147
S3 licensed


If you look at the image for more than 2 seconds you should notice the entire northern half of the globe recorded surface temperatures of atleast 0.5 degrees or more, with the highest changes being recorded in the arctic and north pole. All directly above the largest populations on the planet.
edge3147
S3 licensed
Acting like mans inventions and decisions have no effect what so ever on the world around us is just being ignorant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... p;feature=player_embedded
http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarm ... MmBgKK7g7MCFQMFnQodZHMAFg

How about you sheeple stop listening to the Mainstream media which is owned and controlled by the elite 1% of the world and listen to the people who actually know what they are talking about and don't have financial interests in keeping this cycle going.

Common sense, pollution and airborne particles get trapped in the atmosphere causing the suns rays to be trapped in the lower atmopshere thus heating the earth and causing global warming.

Although local temperatures fluctuate naturally, over the past 50 years the average global temperature has increased at the fastest rate in recorded history.

This image is from NASA.



The governments want you to keep spending and using energy like we will never run out because most of them have some sort of interest in the energy markets. WAKE UP. As little as 1 degree change can melt ice if the conditions are right.

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edge3147
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Quote from Sobis :But how can he possibly say the circuits are boring JUST from pics? You can't say the track is boring when you haven't tried them yourself.

Maybe he is trying to save face on his S2 account and using his demo account to troll up this bitch? Just because he is posting from a demo account doesn't mean he has cracked the game. You are no better than the American Government that cries wolf every time someone says or does something they don't like. Stop trying to act like you are psychic and assuming you know everything.

*edit* not to mention the countless youtube videos and other ways for be informed about this game. There are serveral games that I have never played and refuse to because they look boring to me, does that mean i went and illegally pirated the software? NO.
edge3147
S3 licensed
Quote from Omar1 :Well they shouldnt.

And why shouldn't they? There is free information that would inform the demo drivers of all the cars and tracks available in LFS

http://www.lfs.net/?page=contents

edge3147
S3 licensed
This is the last thing everyone needs to be worrying about.

These forums are fine the way they are, adding mobile friendly forums will only delay further progress on core development.

If you can't use the browser that came with your smartphone, you probably shouldn't own a smartphone, they are not complicated.
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