Quote from chanoman315 :

Hi! I'm planning to go to the German Grand Prix this summer so I want a little help from the people that have gone to that event, where is the best part of the circuit to watch the race? Which Grandstand do I choose, seating low or high?
Thank you very much

Same for Hungarian GP

I'm not sure whether you will get a lot of information on this topic on the LFS forum, but you can try these (1 2) forum topics where you might find help.

1. Who will win drivers' world championship: Hamilton
2. Which team will win constructors' world championship: Mercedes
3. Who is the last finisher in Australian GP including DNF, retire, disqualified, last to drive over the s/f line: Ericsson
4. Will 13 or more cars finish the Australian GP race (within 2 laps of the winner): No
5. Who will score more points in 2014. Bottas or Massa: Bottas
6. Who will score more points in 2014. Grosjean or Maldonado: Grosjean
7. Who will score more points in 2014. Räikkönen or Alonso: Alonso
8. What is the best race finishing result for Magnussen in 2014: 3rd
9. Do you think Ricciardo will win at least one race in 2014: No
10. First driver you think will lose his drive during 2014 (miss at least one race): No one
11. Will Caterham or Marussia score points in 2014: Yes
12. Who will win the pole position on the Sochi qualifying: Vettel
13. Out of all Sauber, Force India, Toro Rosso and Williams WHICH DRIVER will score the most points during the season: Bottas
14. Out of Sauber, Force India, Toro rosso and Williams WHICH TEAM scores the most points during 2014 season: Williams
15: Do you think Simona de Silvestro will drive 2014 spec F1 car during 2014 season (free practise, testing or city run or whatever): Yes
16: Winner of Australian GP: Hamilton
17. Winner of Monaco GP: Rosberg
18. How many points will the DWC winning driver have at the end of the season: 305

Quote from Hyperactive :

Are you for real? With that logic the 2nd turn of any chicane is "the exit of the first turn". You have three turns there. First one is a right hander and that is followed by a left hander. If you go wide on the exit of the first turn you cut the apex of the second turn. Period. All drivers were effectively cutting that apex at some part of the quali or race. It is just typical inconsistency from fia to allow it.

Turn 1 is one not comparable with the corner I mentioned. There is still a short straight before the next left-right high-speed corners. And funny that you mentioned chicanes: No one will run with wide in the first corner to compromise the second part of a chicane. I wouldn't compare that at all to the example of picture 2..

And typical inconsistency: Then ask Whiting about why he allowed it. Don't blame the drivers for something they have been told that they can do in qualifying and race.

Quote from Mustafur :

look at the picture, it was cutting the apex, that is blatant cutting.

It's amazing some can't differ between inside and outside of a corner. Picture 2 is clearly the exit (outside) of the long right-hander.

Good to see Vettel being four times world champion. What will people say if he manages to clinch a 5th next year after the majority have their hopes on the rules change.

Next time I'll make it clearer by only quoting the important bit for my response. The other part - that KERS doesn't effect absolute top speed - is clear as combination of downforce settings and gear ratio.

Quote from IsaacPrice :

He did for his 2nd lap. Anyway KERS affects how fast you get to your top speed rather than what your top speed is I'd guess. It would affect top speed, but not enough to say Vettels top speed was significantly higher

No, he didn't. Horner confirmed it, the BBC side-by-side qualifying lap comparison confirmed it, then according to "Ted's Notebook" from Sky confirmed it too.

There is no point why he should lose time in the second sector where most of the KERS is used. Especially when he is dominant to him during the whole weekend in case Vettel's KERS worked.

Quote from TexasLTU :

[...] must be trolling [...]

Klaidas, there's foam coming out of your mouth. Are you still allright?

Or is it because you are so excited to see Kimi bringing the Spanish vulcano to explode at Ferrari in 2014?

Quote from BlueFlame :

It's hardly as dangerous as you're implying, I mean he's not Petter Solberg ffs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXMCLiAvzg8#t=60

If Hamilton isn't aware as quickly as he has been there, he crashes into Alonso's car and hurts Webber who is just about to step into the car. Not dangerous? Watch for yourself. "Smart" thinking from Alonso to stop on the racing line after a blind corner.

Quote from CSF :

It was a reprimand... it was his third of the season, thus under the new rules he gets a penalty. The penalty isn't for the incident... though it sounds like he was lucky to get away with just a reprimand!!

True.

If it were Vettel, people would have hoped for a DSQ. Ridiculous hateful people.

Last edited by Feuerdrache, Sun 22 Sep 2013, 17:15.

Quote from Gougoodthing :

Did he pass around the outside there?

He was never behind Grosjean during the early stages of the race, so I guess he came under attack by him after running wide in T3.

Last edited by Feuerdrache, Wed 31 Jul 2013, 23:32.

Quote from Eclipsed :

And please no time travel,march was very cold here...

Time travel races (into the past) are the only possibility to keep LFS leagues alive.

I don't hate you, I'm just fed up of reading NIKI vs. Isaac wars in almost every race discussion thread.

Do it like Hugo, he never really cared what happened on the forum and just delivered on the track.

That wasn't particular needed Isaac unless you want to pour oil into the fire once again. I hope the moderators delete those posts soon.

Quote from luki97 :

I guess that post race wreck cost you lot of time and positions...

That doesn't matter. There have been people being banned because of such incidents before - in LLSS 2010 for example.

Quote from IsaacPrice :

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It wasn't any attempt at trolling. I'm just so surprised that some people are playing it down that F1 is mainly a team sport which it isn't. If it's supposed to be a team sport, then only have WCC.

The main problem is down to RedBull. Why are they trying to make agreements if they know they don't like each other - try to let them race but tell them beforehand not to repeat a Turkey 2010. I think they are good enough racers to handle that as shown in the last race.

However should it be that Webber couldn't drive faster anymore because he didn't had enough fuel whilst Vettel was more carefully with the fuel burning over the race or has been fuelled up more - which I doubt since both machines are automatically fuelled. Then I don't know what the discussion is all about because Vettel had a better fuel management over the race. If it wasn't like that, then Webber had two laps to react to reset the engine mapping to a higher fuel burning setting and counter Vettel's attacks.

Don't get me wrong because I like Alonso's racing intelligence. But I often read - not by you in particular - who hail him as saint just like Senna. Champions are often more ruthless and that should be acknowleged and tolerated in single sports. It seems more like a media hype to me.

It never is when I'm arguing against you BlueFlame but someone like you has 4 opinions on the same topic.

He talks about F1 being a team sport and tells you have to subordinate sometimes. Then he totally forgets about that it so often happened in F1.

Another example: Senna who disobeyed an agreement with Prost not to attack the one who is first into the first corner - must be San Marino 1990 iirc. But Senna took the egoistic route and attacked into turn 2.

Quote from IsaacPrice :

Well that's just common sense for the team. It's not like the whole grid do it, if they can still beat the car ahead of them that's not part of their team then sure they go for it. Is this the first F1 race you've ever watched or do you just miss the point completely?

IMO F1 isn't for the dumb race fan who just wants to watch cars crash. Part of what makes F1 what it is, is the team dynamic, the strategical dynamic and to a large extent the controversy stuff like this creates. If you want to watch cars race the wheels of each other regardless of who they are racing, rather than get the best result for themselves and the team then watch Touring cars or something

Please tell me more about the understanding of a team sport. Alonso can tell you certainly nice stories from 2007 too. Betraying the whole team (in the end it cost them 100 mio $) just for the sake for his own title against Hamilton.

If you are entering F1, you should know that you are going to meet egoistic sportsmen. Also you have to be egoistic to be successful yourself there. That's what some don't understand in their hate for Vettel or other successful drivers.

Look at the other drivers of the slowest team in pre-qualifying which have been disqualified for the same infringement. Actually the difference between fastest laptimes in actual qualifying and slowest teams will be approximately 2s. That's still acceptable and would be within well 107% - if there were such a rule in NDR.

I don't really see the problem and Deko has announced the rules clearly beforehand.

Merry Christmas, SAVAGE team! :wmann3:

Happy Christmas, rForce! Keep on going in 2013.

Good luck with your co-operation in GT1WS!

Quote from Droemel :

Scar Symmetry - The Draconian Arrival

Hm.. interesting song/band.

Thanks for the wishes guys!

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Last edited by Feuerdrache, Sat 6 Oct 2012, 16:50.

Nice review of the final round!