Quote from Gutholz :

I know moderators do not get paid for what they do so after a while it can become boring.
Still I think moderators should service the forum instead of ranting about these same ever repeating things.
You have the power to make a difference by doing small things.
For example since years the league section has many inactive subforums, making it very cluttered. Why is nobody sorting that out?
Sure, it is not exciting as an LX8 but if new players can more easily find which leagues are currently running that is a nice thing, too.

Thats actually a very good point. I almost missed the GTI Trophey, as that forum is over clutted.

Yeah come on Mod's, sort it out ( its OK, they know me enough to know I am joking with that tone )

Fordie

Yo Funnybear, nice to see you still about, and still with a Teddybear for love , so how can Scavier help you annoy your fury friend....oh wait I see.....Its Ginger

Quote from shimon-ifraimov :

well ya i guess your right

Dawes is always right he is the

http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Oracle.jpg

Quote from shimon-ifraimov :

Lets buy the dam rights to the game and do it our self

They wouldn't sell it in its hay day when some massive software company came in for the physics code......so what's to say they will sell it to a bunch of gamers....Never

Quote from sinbad :

I think this needs to be reigned in before these rants become abusive because it's pointless to start speculating about what's true and what isn't. Whatever is happening accusations won't get us anywhere.

Hear Hear

Quote from Bob The Mod :

I'm keeping an eye on this thread though and if people can't keep their emotions in check, I will close the thread.

Nooooo

But I agree, would be nice to hear from a Dev, the Devs, any Dev and please ladies and gentlemen, no back lash if they do, no requests, just read...if they do that is

Fordie

Quote from sinbad :

I do kind of hope that we haven't been duped a little, though. I know "LFS is not dead" but if they basically canned it years ago, and didn't announce that because they were still selling licenses, hence the master server and maintenance patches, it would be crappy way to do it. It still wouldn't explain why they didn't want to release a little content and make some money in their part-time though.

Whatever, it's still the best sim current on my HDD

Spot on Sinbad and totally agree with you here ( paid for IRacing, got a deal, 3months for price of one) and played it once Have set a Cal reminder to cancel, but BOT.....Scawen, if your reading this, please just give us a heads up, anything, even say Hi I am still alive....little and often just as the Dr's tell us

Fordie

Quote from Bmxtwins :

GenR has a GTI Cup coming up, so I think people may find it a bit repetitive of what they are doing

Cool, thanks for the heads up, will have a look

Quote from Becky Rose :

I actually would like to do the STCC again (not the CTRA). But for it to happen LFS needs a graphics update, more short circuits, a few minor game engine tweaks and a change in my life that gave me more free time.

But I've never ruled it out.

Did you see my post above Becky?

Fordie

Quote from N I K I :

They are absolutely great community. They have had by far the biggest grid sizes in any of LFS leagues. Through the entire 2012 season 3-4 grids each race. Driver activity was never an issue with them and probably will never even be.

Administration, or rather the head admin has decided to take a year off from all the obligations of running such a competitive league to concentrate on his real life obligations as I guess they cought up with him. Nevertheless, he has promised a 2014 seasons in his words to happen and I hope for all greatness of OLFSL it happens.

Totally agree with your statement there, they where good racing friends of mine.

2014....We need one this year

Dawes and Co.....have a read see what you think?

https://www.lfsforum.net/showt ... php?p=1812284#post1812284

Fordie

There has been a thread, that is being talking about, and the common thing I see is the desire for an "old style" pick up race series, which got me thinking...is there really interest out there.

Here is my thoughts:

XFG Cup or GT CUP with restrictions on the XRG so its closer to XFG
2 Race format
1st Sprint race - 10 laps - Top 7 Finishes Reverse Grid
2nd Feature Race - 15 Laps with Forced Pitstop
12 Rounds ( 2 races per round = 24 races)
Race day Sunday Evenings (approx 5-6pm)
Taking on my laptimes ( and I am not quick) races should be complete by 8pm
Races every other Weekend or every weekend

Top 3 drivers from the Previous round have to add weight to the next round, even up the field during the course of the competition.

Qualification Hot laps can be sent in to determine what Grid position you start on with a maximum of 3 being being submitted, although offline you can do as many as you want.

I know it sounds very similar to the current/last years BTCC, which if you watch it, works really well, is interesting and give good close racing.

There will be no forced cockpit
Nothing forced in Setups (except if you drive the XRG)
No restriction on where you live (depending on your connection speed)
S2 Licensed drivers ONLY!!

Anyway, what's your thoughts?

Regards

Fordie

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Fordman! LFSCART still exists. Entry is low however there's a race this evening that people can still join. It's KY1R, but the last 2 rounds of the season are at Fern Bay and KY2. Which should be fun.

Oh Sorry Dawes, didn't realise.

Just found this http://www.lfs-league.com/

Wonder if they are still about?

What I did with ESL was, they had to upload 1 skin for the series, again, I think the same as above, why have different skins each week, your car skin is not like your underwear for example, but we designed a Windscreen Banner that ALL had to use.

On replays and watching the race, it looked really smart.

We all seem to be pushing in the same direction here and wanting the same thing???

Bring back STTC/ LFSCART and the OLFSL?

Fordie

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

It becomes hard though. For instance, I love to drive, so to organize an event and drive is impossible.

Yep found that problem with my "random" servers. I love to drive, but to watch for the "idiots causing havok" is a nightmare...and this is just your drive and race servers, this is not a league server either

Fordie

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

i miss stcc for that reason too. Tbo racing around tracks that fit for it. So1, so3, so2, fe1, fe rallyx. Nice tracks for the class, and it was excellent.

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 :d

WARNING!!!! Without reading every post going, so don't shoot me down here.

I used to love racing in leagues, and running them to be honest. You will always get a couple of now shows, but it happens in every sport in real life.

I looked at some leagues, and there seems to be only GTR's, Endurance, or single seaters. What happened to the class of GTI's, like the very very successful OLFSL. When Andre and co (me) used to run this, we used to divise the grid by hotlaps. Example, you had 1 week, to send in your hotlap, in your own time, when you can and before the shut off date, to determain what grid u was one. So 1 week, you could be on grid A, but then on Grid B. This put the drivers that was closest in laptimes on the same grid It worked

TIME.....to run a league properly you need time, effort, website skills, friends to help admin the league, good servers, and obviously drivers. Without any of the above, it will not work. Andre had all of these and more.

The "real" problem, sorry hate the C word for personal reasons is all the Blackwood servers out there. Lets get some variety going on. If you log on just to take a look, and you see 15 BL servers, and 1-2 poss different I think, who whats the point, and log off. And stop all this Multi-Multi class servers. I mean GTR/LX/Single seaters and GTI/UF1....come one...seriously, what is the point??

But LFS isn't dead, its a bit like a vintage bottle of wine. Your saving the best till last, as you know the longer you leave it, the better the taste will be LOL...problem is though, with all fine wines, there is a best before date

Fordie

Last edited by Fordman, Fri 26 Jul 2013, 18:36.

This is very borderline, but funny....

If you have sex with a prostitute without her consent, is it classed as Rape or shop lifting

Hay guys

I know you all have good points, but these are now pointing in the direction of the wish list.

Please keep this thread, non argumentative, informative, and leaning towards that we, as a community would just like an update, no matter how small or big, just a continuous progress report would be nice, I think we all agreed on this?

Like somebody said, Scawen either doesn't have time, or is not the PR type, so ask somebody to do it. I know there is plenty of people on here that would take the time, of there own time to be a PR person to the community...I know I would

Cheers

Fordie

Quote from Woz :

I would join your server but as I am have been on the other side of the world for so long the timezone and ping are an issue. The killer down here is there is not much action on the servers hence my waiting for S3 to spark interest again and fill up local servers

Ping should not be an issue, I have Fibre Baby Yeah

Time zone's might be an issue, but over a weekend, might make it

Fordie

Team BR vs Afri-Cola in a online race at SO long......First race, I finished 5th to qualifiy for Pole for 2nd Race.

2nd Race started on Pole, with team mate Krak behind me and he protected me all the way...to my first win online in competition....I had sweaty palms, you name it...was just awesome.

Some others:
Downtown Movie with Joecool
We raced all night movie with Joecool
Running 1st and 2nd season with ESL (used to be only Germany had this privilege)
Creating Triple 7 Racing and seeing it go from strength to strength and still going strong
Being part of a fantastic community which I never had on any other game

Fordie

Quote from Woz :

Another long term die hard here that was around during RSC days. It is saddening see how progress has dropped off from the S1 to S2 transition.

Early on in RSC you could post ideas and get dev feedback, there was constant visible progress and things were in a constant state of flux.

It was an exciting time. Constant updates and the community was strong and supportive of each other. I even remember Fordman taking time to watch me drive and give me pointers early on that helped me loads

Around the time of S2 I even got close to sinking a whole pile of cash into buying 4 * 301 sims and setting up a race center based on LFS. Communication with the devs was easy and had some good feedback about possibility of how LFS accounts and guest accounts could be operated in that setting etc.

Now I have not played in years but monitor this forum in a hope that some news might crop up that would spark my interest in LFS again. LFS is something that sucked as much of my time as Quake3, many many hours of driving.

No other race sim managed to grab me in the same way. I hope LFS is not dead but it feels like it. Even an update of yes we are working on LFS and it is not dead would be great news

Nice to see you still about Woz Grab that wheel and come and join some old S1 fun on my 0.3H7 Server sometime

I think it is now me that needs pointers HA HA HA, but thanks for the comment. Like you said, it was a strong community and little things like that was appreciated. Now all you get is "what do you know" and "who do you think you are" when you try and help....then get smashed off the road.....anyway, diversing here, back on topic.

As they say in football "Scawen Give us a wave, Scawen, Scawen Give us a Wave ....worth a try

Fordie

Last edited by Fordman, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 18:05.

Quote from Matrixi :

Right on the money there.

Whenever I've been critical about LFS' progress or its shortcomings, it's not because I hate the devs or want to mock them, it's because I still want it to be THE best sim out there and want the devs to be aware of the biggest issues and flaws and do something about them. I mean we haven't been sticking around with the same piece of software for over 10 years now because we dislike it.

That said, it has become pretty hard to recommend LFS to newcomers now in its current state, before it was the obvious and only option.

+1000 Agree

hi Dawes

Fair play mate, just seen this, and your right

22.03.2003: 0.2A - Demo test, similar to S1 but without the new cars & tracks
17.07.2003: 0.3A - S1
10.08.2005: The new official LFS forum goes online

So where on earth did Jan 2003 come from

Fordie

PS - Just in case anybody try's to judge the DAWES, our LFS Yoda....here it all is LOL http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/About_LFS#History_of_LFS

Where are the others. I have been told they are still about, but haven't replied....surely somebody know's where they are

Fordie

You can download all the versions here

Its only the 0.3H7 that is compatible with the Master Server, as Scawen did this, hence why the only one I am running

Fordie