Always.
But level it so I can hear the engine sound.

DREAM THEATER - Once In A Livetime - ACOS II- Innocence

XRR is little difficult than FZR, FXR is the easiest of three for me.

Quote from Gil07 :

/engage lurk mode

Smart mode Gil07

I guess this thread come to its end.
It will find its way into the dark vaults like others.
Till one curious guy ask a question about god, existence et cetera or maybe
Israeli-Palestinian stuff and this thread resurrect again for a short while. And history repeats itself in vicious circle.

ROGER WATERS - Amused To Death
"The Bravery of Being out of Range"

Thanks to SamH for the link.
It is so interesting.
This is another sister site.

@RocksGt; Still trying?

Quote from David33 :

This is interesting. Can you provide any details about the materials, and construction, of the battery?

Here;
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery

Edit;Previous post - Battery dated 248BCE and 266AD, ~2000 years old.

If you interested more check this;
The 10 Most Puzzling Ancient Artifacts

@ flymike91; I respect all ideas sounded by individuals here. As long as they do it in proper way.
That web site I referred my previous post is for reference for you, it was posted by somebody on this forum but I don't remember who.
Palestine was there before Hamas. I don't approve hamas or any other terrorist groups action with Israels actions.

Can you accept "if you got the power", than you have to license to kill?
History is full of with that kind of stories. The powerful invaders comes and kills all the people around, thats the simply core of what happened till today. No matter what the name of the invader or invaded nation. World colonised vastly before..

Israel has the power, they claim that that place where they rule now is their "promised land". According to old testament. Thats it. That is true, they live thousand years with Palestinians together. They are close as uncle-nephew, they claimed that prophet Ibrahim/Abraam is belonged their side. Since this prophet, there is a sign between God and those poeple. What is that sign? If you know tell me.
It is a common sign, showed that both nations roots are closer than they think.
Palestine and Israeli peoples wanted to make peace, they tried several times in the past. But failed. Sabotaged.
There is a monster dwelling on this world feeds itself from wars, blood and tears.


@David33
I guess I understand you. I am not specialist of this subject but it seems like Iraq issue is distorted when transferred to your side. Its a thin ice. UN did not accept Iraqi invasion in the beginning as you may know. Whatever happened out there is no good for Iraqi people. In Iraq its been said like that; "Master come, Apprentice gone" They are talking like that, means invaders & Saddam.
And all the historic treasures of Iraq has been looted. This is a shame. Artifacts stoled from Baghdat museum and sold god knows to who...

Do you guys know that first advanced civilization is raised on Iraqi soil?
Do you guys know who invented the first battery/accumulator?
Volta?
No, it seems there is at least one guy made it real ~1000 BC. And this battery is still functioning! ~3000 years old battery. This battery found on Iraqi soil also. But now, god knows where...

@flymike91
I am living in a country that nearly all religions members living side by side, mostly Muslims though.
I was interested with Christianity in the past and I can say that I know this religion as an average Christian. Muslims respect to Jesus also, he is known prophet.
Virgin Mary died here, she buried at Selçuk near Efes. I visited her several times and burned some candles for her. I like the concept of the Christs teaching. Also, I like Buddhist teaching too. And I would like to show you a Islam sect; Sufis. This people are Muslim too. And they say;

"Come, come again, whoever you are, come!
Heathen, fire worshipper or idolatrous, come!
Come even if you broke your penitence a hundred times,
Ours is the portal of hope, come as you are."They are followers of Mevlana.

Seven advice of MEVLANA in generosity and helping others be like a river
in compassion and grace be like sun
in concealing others' faults be like night
in anger and fury be like dead
in modesty and humility be like earth
in tolerance be like a sea
Either exist as you are or be as you look


So flymike91, we all human and we all exactly same. Diversity exist but core is same. Open your eyes.
For middle east; someone post this I dont remember who did but it may help to see other side of the medallion.

Return to subject, average Muslim and Christian or any religion member are same for me. What you call extremists are maybe should not counted as they are part of any religion. If they are terrorists, they are. There is no such a thing like Islamic terror etc. They use the religion as a cover.
Religion itself a tool indeed but not meant to use by humans.

We all coming same source; dozen of eve,
whole world talks same language before several thousands years ago, what happened? Even two cat can understand each other, let say one from Moscow one from Tokyo, than how on earth "the most intelligent creature" can not understand even sometimes in same language.

God created us in his&her image,
so we are like Gods,
and we are exactly act like them.

I am reading since the beginning of the thread, you guys are brave, one of the oldest and hardest problem you are dealing with here.
But, still good to see some people still care about to learn more, sharing info, thats nice.
I am following you..

Steve Vai - Tender Surrender

Flickr is a good place to look around for different brands & popular cameras. Not ideal for comparing cameras to each other though.

You can also find useful info here.

Billy Idol - Rebel Yell

Congrats Tristan & good luck on next round (Silverston?)

Quote from Gnomie :

A little off track, but I'll get back to the core issue in a little while:

IMO the perfect racing game would be one which is founded on a super-realistic physics engine (like the one in LFS) but where the racers can select different difficulties. So the arcade people could turn on all sorts of aids and have fun wrecking each other on closed servers. Then there'd be the intermediate servers, which have some restrictions on aids, and finally the pure-sim servers. (for the rich bastards. ) Since all this would be found in the same game, the game would appeal to many people, which again would generate lots of ££ to the developers. Hence they could afford to hire lots of guys to improve graphics and stuff to GT5-levels. One game suits all.

But since this is not where LFS is today, I suggest a compromise: how about having dedicated servers for people using manual shifting and no aids whatsoever? Would that help? Then you'd know that you'd be racing against like minded people. However I'm afraid the userbase isn't large enough to provide much interesting racing on these servers..

Agree on that Gnomie.
One sim with different options like you suggested is maybe the answer.

I have a wheel but no clutch pedal, I can use button as a clutch. Will it be more realistic? I guess no.

I used Zone Alarm for years but now Comodo Firewall installed. For spyware protection, I use Spyware Terminator (has clamvin anti-vir entegrated) its pretty good for me, and for anti-vir I use AVG free edition (for more than a year).
I heard about Nod32, it is one of the best AFAIK but never tested it.
I used Adaware also but Spyware Terminator is better IMO.

Yes Alfa but, what an Alfa....

...imagine what will beta look like.

Quote from Speed Soro :

Well, I assume that any argument defending the game here, no matter what point, are always in principle wrong, cause the first position of the majority here is always to defend the game in the stage it is at that moment. It has been in this manner since the beggining, and I have seen people change their opinion many times after any news from the devs. If someone come here and complain, many fall over killing the guy, but after months something is changed, then that people forget they love the old version of the game and start defending everything in the new format.

The clutch is not right, no matter how many times you say that I drive wrong.

I drive right. Not the best drive ever, but ebough for do not burn any clutch in the world.

I didn't start in 3 or 4 not even 2o gear. I started in 1st, I do the same way I use to drive my real car. I lift my foot before change the gears, I do everything right.

This model is wrong. You are asking me to drive like a mom going to the mall in a sunday morning... comon. Those are race cars, and this is just a game, supposed to be simulated but fun.

It is the same thing about RAC. Who in this world could confirm that car is so perverted in real life like it is in the game?

just like Race and many others little things that need improvments, the clutch model is wrong and need too.

Comon, I drive for almost 30 years. This game is wrong, stop.

Im not saying that this game sux, or the clutch sux, or everything like that. I love this game. I really love this game and respect deeply the LFS Team´s work. I'm not saying too that it is supposed to be easy to implement any single detail in the game.

I believe that it is hard. But it is a fact that the clutch is wrong and the fun has been compromised after its appearence.

Hi, Speed Soro, I respect your opinions. I think many thing is just not right in LFS maybe beside of the clutch. But remember, LFS project is still developing. It is unfair to expect perfection at one shot, so for a small team like this project's devs has, it is awesome what they did until now. This project is aimed high, it will take time to reach there. We have to wait. I believe Scawen already knows about this clutch issue beside of many others. Our advantage is here, we have developers who likes to drive as much as many of us maybe more than many of us.

I am a big fan of LFS and I proud to be. There is no alternative for me. But I am not blind, I can see the flaws in this sim. also. But its not end of the world, it will be better day by day, step by step that is I believe.

To help the devs, we have to describe the problem correctly than put all the evidence about it on the table in a simple & plain way. It is better to post "Improvement Suggestions" section.

Return to your "clutch" issue, it is better to take notes what happened, where and which situation in a technical detail. No one can judge your driving ability, there is no such a tool in computer environment, they can only tell you about your driver inputs differences or maybe the some inputs that triggered the problems. But thats not proof that you are a bad driver in real life IMO. Contrary, you would be better than many of us in real life situations.
Its matter of adaptation to simulation.

Accept it as is, LFS will be improved in the future patches, for an example; engine model, crash/collision model needs improvement everyone knows but its matter of time.

Have a good day to you all.

Congratulations to Roberts family!
I wish a long, healthy & happy life for little Nicole.

Steve Vai - For The Love Of God

Both of them.
In the beginning, where two driver introduced, it is clear that B already at the rear bumper of A. Despite of the fact that B got a better start (and A did notice that imo), A acted like nobody out there. Simply, not a good example of sportsmanship. In the same time, before the contact, B could still avoid this by lifting a little.

Maya - In The Wake Of Beauty

Brno or Mugello would be fine.
And others I wish to see in LFS; Spa, Suzuka, Monza and of course, The Ring.

Def Leppard - Gods Of War