Quote from rockclan :

orly?

Than why did I lose virginity a very long time ago.

And why did I get like the best blowsjobs last christmas?

As a change from all the flaming.

S.E.T.H - Would you like to *clearly* explain the advantages that the "force mode" gives a driver? Is it the cameras new position, or the "at the wheels" force data, or both?

Quote from BlueFlame :

Jak, a backstory should not alter a Policemans perspective on a situation, past is past, a police-person should focus on the job in the present time. Even if the assailant is a muderous, raping, lunatic child abuser, if he doesn't resist, he doesn't need beating and so on, they'll get beaten enough in jail.

I don't quite think I phrased it properly.

For example, lets say there was a man who'd beaten the shit out of someone. When police tried to arrest him, he'd attacked and hurt several policemen. They get him on the floor but even then he's still kicking, punching, biting police and they struggle to handcuff him.

One uses a Tazer to disorientate him (perhaps they have to do this more than once), and then 6 officers jump on him to get him in cuffs and under control.

NOW imagine there was no video of the first part, and simply a video of the police tazing an "innocent" man laying on the floor several times before jumping on him. One would paint the police in a very bad light, whereas one would show a reasonable way of dealing with the situation while saving everybody unnecessary risk.

(something very similar to this happened in Nottingham and the video went viral).

I don't mean backstory as in "that guys a rapist so it's ok to beat the shit out of him".

Quote from BlueFlame :

The guy posed no real threat

You think someone coming at you with a crowbar is "no real threat"?

Quote from Hahmo :

Jakg, I don't know what's up with you, for example, you might have bad memories on working with police, I don't know, but how can you not realise that video is harsh, and it's shows some horrifying footage..?

I've met good and bad police, and I'm not denying that a minority do some horrible horrible things. I'm just saying that it's very easy to edit a video in such a way to give *totally* the wrong impression. I didn't watch all of the video, and I'm unfortunately sure there probably is an example of brutality in there and of course thats not a good thing. But I really struggle to watch any sort of terrible biased video without wondering what the actual truth is.

Quote from BlueFlame :

The guy posed no real threat and they shot him not once but 10+ times.

Again - what if one shot isn't enough?

It's been quoted that ~80% of US police shots fired miss. While this is a terrible statistic, based on it if someone came at you with a crowbar, do you really think you'd fire only one shot? I know if it was me I probably would of fired a lot more than 10!

Quote from PMD9409 :

The reading you linked just deflates your point doesn't it? It was reported the man had a crowbar and was taking out windows. No signs of other weapons. So shooting down at his thighs instead of up at chest/head level is way more appropriate. After all, some of those bullets the cop fired missed, hitting things blocks away (says in the reading).

So once again, why were 10 shots needed above the person's stomach, when all he had was a crowbar?

If some of the shots missed thats all the more justification for 10 - imagine if he'd fired 5, all 5 missed and then got a crowbar to the face.

Does it matter if he had any other weapons? A crowbar can still kill...

What should the officer of done when he "went for him"?

He was tazed, and it had no effect - it could well be he's high on drugs. In which case, even if the shots DID get him in the leg, it might not stop him.

Quote from PMD9409 :

So if he would have put 20 into him, it's still the same to you, right?

If he's dead, he's dead, whats the difference?

Quote from PMD9409 :

What about the guy getting beaten by the cop until his knee got destroyed. The cop was just trying to stop the guy from being able to run right? Totally justified then...

Seriously stupid logic IMO.

I was talking about the one video from the start that I actually know the back-story to - I'm just point out it's VERY easy to take a video out of context to make the Police look bad and this video is very VERY biased. I am NOT saying that every case in the video is justified!

Quote from Hahmo :

Imo a shot to leg or hand would have been enough

Can you guarantee a shot to the leg or hand would of stopped him? In fact, can you even guarantee you'd be able to shoot someone in the hand (a small target), with a pistol, outside, while someone rushes you with an iron bar (so adrenaline)?

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Quote from PMD9409 :

So shooting him 10 times is okay?

Why not?

The officer was shooting to stop, which in this case, realistically, was going to be end in death. Who really cares how many bullets are fired, if the end result is going to be the same?

It doesn't just take one bullet to kill someone - after the first 5 shots he was still standing so could of still been a threat. Remember, if he was tazed before and pulled the barbs out and threw them back without even stopping who knows how effective 1, 2, 3 or even 5 bullets would of been.

Quote from ACCAkut :

I dunno how it is in the UK, but a police officer (at least a german one) has no right to use an amount of force and violence portrait multiple times in that vid. He can hold you captive, he can stop you with force if he or another civilian is in danger, but he must not beat you up with his colleagues once you lie on the ground .

That one with black guy and the cop with the chain(?) was most disturbing, they broke his knee but kept on beating ...

I'm not saying that all police everywhere are amazing, just that that video is VERY biased and theres ALWAS a backstory which could well twist the whole video.

It's amazing how bad you can make things look out of context

For example, in the first video, they tazed the guy, no effect, and he went for an officer wielding a metal bar. Placed in that position, with no other options what a gun, what was the officer supposed to do?

Wow this forum has gone downhill

Quote from Bose321 :

Lights in your car make you see more outside in night? I beg to differ.

I didn't say that...

Quote from G!NhO :

Who needs lights inside their car anyway?

Errrr, people who want to see something at night?

Quote from G!NhO :

I can't imagine why someone would prefer the bright led light over a more natural yellowish light, if you want more light why not put a construction light in your car.

Same goes for the led plate lights, sometimes it looks like neonzz because it lights up the whole damn road behind the car....

Because they are brighter, so you can see more... the OE interior lights in my car were rubbish, makes the whole car dark and look dingy. LEDs are a LOT better.

Remember kids, don't **** around in the mud unless you want your car to end up *covered* in the stuff afterwards...



And a snow shot...

Quote from wheel4hummer :

I quite enjoy being single, then I can make fun of people with all their relationship woes and not feel like a hypocrite afterwards!

Of course you do.

Quote from e2mustang :

so why did they invent it if it doesnt do shit?

Did you really need to ask that? There are hundreds of products on the market that do nothing, but that people still buy!

Quote from e2mustang :

just think about the pounding bass,and the electricity going thru cables,wheres it coming from and where it ends up etc.

It's all still coming from one place - the alternator.

Quote from e2mustang :

An E39 has enough drain problems on the battery alone,and the alternators fail left and right.i do 1 or 2 almost every day.So whereever he can save some energy go for it.my opinion as a bmw tech.

How can it reduce the stress on the alternator?

Think about it - a cap can hold very *very* little power. As soon as it's discharged, it'll have to suck that power up from the alt anyway.

A capacitor doesn't reduce stress on the battery or alternator - that power still has to come from somewhere.

Don't get a capacitor, you wont need one.

I've got a (theoretical RMS) of 1.8kW of amplification & a 110A alt and all is fine (although obviously a more powerful alt would help!)

Quote from E.Reiljans :

You obviously have never read any JG's review. He tests basically everything - including ripple, voltage regulation, efficiency, power factor etc.

Like I said... MOST - especially the "product reviews" you find on eTailers websites.

Most "reviews" of PSU's are things like "i've had it 5 minutes and it hasn't exploded so it's AWESOME".

XClio are a budget make... wouldn't recommend one tbh

Quote from tommer :

But I've yet to hear one genuine good feature about a Mac other than 'it's shiny'.

Then maybe you should re-read the posts in this thread...

Quote from tommer :

I'm referring to the Intel based chip.

Riiiiight

Quote from tommer :

My little netbook already has a hack for it that'll allow it to run your OS, umadbrah? It's got the same components as Your Mac too. Sure it looks more like a cheap netbook, but it also cost me the price of a cheap netbook.

hahahaha, you spent all that money on a new BMW when my 20 year old Lada does exactly the same thing. It's got the same components* as your BMW too. umadbrah?

*and by "components" I mean they both use internal combustion engines... hey, it's all the same, right?


Of all the Mac vs Windows arguments I've seen accross the internet that weren't done by 13 year olds flaming, the quality of the arguments in this thread have to be the worst (ignoring Shotglass and Matrixi)

Quote from Bmxtwins :

Anonymous is probably in for a rude awakening for cyber terrorism charges after this. Not really the smartest move to take down the FBI website.

My pet hate - anonymous is not one person, or even a "group" - it's a bunch of people who join together under an "anti-name"

Quote from tommer :

You'd be suprised how easy it is to get around those issues if you know what you're doing

I never said you couldn't DIY an OSX install - but in no way does an OSX 10v have "the same components" as any Mac.

Quote from tommer :

I'm just saying :P

You implied that there were *no positives* to the Apple platform, at all, and that someone would only purchase one if they were "misinformed".

Quote from tommer :

If I recall correctly, apple charges mobile developers to make products for there phones.

To be fair - they charge very little. And it means that apps are generally of a slightly better quality...

Sony did the same with the PS2 and I think they do the same with the PS3 / Microsoft with the 360.

Quote from tommer :

My little netbook [...] It's got the same components as Your Mac too. Sure it looks more like a cheap netbook, but it also cost me the price of a cheap netbook.

I've yet to see any Apple product with "netbook components"... can't think of any with Atoms, VIA C7s or AMD Cs?

Or 10" TN screens for that matter...

Quote from tommer :

my HTC Desire runs the iOS

Quote from tommer :

There are very logically reasons why you should not buy an apple product and unfortunately it's the misinformation to the public that results in people buying them and getting poor user experience for the money they've paid..

What utter, utter rubbish.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

I'm not sure about company car tax as I'm not involved in that (and it's probably more than £50) but I know I'd rather pay a little more in CC tax and have something like a Volvo diesel or the VW diesel than a hybrid.

Theres a lot larger difference than you'd think...