i approve of only one of those things

"....has the most advanced physics system ever put into a racing game..."

i thought that the insurance price was all based on crash tests, thats what i was told by the insurance company iirc

lower that price 2,000 pennies and you got yourself a deal

that sounds painful

well im pretty sure alot of people here are looking for the next simulator...this game was meant just to cruise a little with the exotics, and i think people here are forgetting that.

does rfactor have a demo? can you get mods on the demo?

i got gt5 for christmas, and im on a save-only budget. not spending anything

theres a few ajustments on a bike that im the same way, but generally a little observation, a little thought, and a little tweak (then repeat) can get things getting better, then when done tighten that ALOT

try to make some ajustments?

i went to gt5 for a little over a month, came back to lfs...ITS EYEOPENING!!

if you go to another game and come back like a month later, you will think lfs is great again..its what i did

i started off being extremely no, but this now has me torn, whether i would want this or not.

i guess the dev's could always keep it there for a month, and see how that puts the communty, and if its worse, they can take it off..

just switch them in the controlls...and make sure they are seperate.

if they are a combined axis, just invert the axis, and it should work

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

good full suspension is 3x more expensive than hardtrail. No point buying shit full suspension bike.
good or even decent full suspension bikes are up to 1000euros easily.

It would help a lot if you just told how much you are about to use on a bike...

chainreactoncycles.com is the best place to buy bike stuff

that is why i would most likely buy used.

i would be looking to spend around 800$ on a bike, which for used is do-able (my friends have gotten quality full suspension bikes that cheap)

if i got hardtail, that would be much more do-able..then i have been thinking if i should bother with a bike, or just wait for my license to come and use that as my hobby.

this is going to be a tougher choice then i thought.

as of right now i have a hardtail bike with decent forks, and off road tires (love the tires), and i definately have learned to ride smoother, as compared to many people i see.

for my skill i think i need full suspension, cause im not too skilled, and wont focus all my time on biking (and it needs to be strong)
for what i will need it for (occasional fast downhill trail) a hardtail will do me just fine!

all my friends point me towards full suspension, and everywhere else points me in both directions.

tires are replacable with wear, and with my seperate needs, but getting 2 bikes is not very easy to manage.

im thinking get a used full suspension and stick to that.

should i just go face to face with somebody at a bike shop?

what would be an all rounder?

what would i search, and what are good places to look?

Quote from dadge :

you're thinking street trails this is downhill trails both of which originated from BMX.



i'm really resisting the urge to post an off road tyre and discuss contact areas. lol.

can i just ask a question, cause you seem to know something?

me and my friend bike as a hobby. we do stuff that is kinda in both of those videos (nowhere near as good, but we still have those general ideas). What would you recomend would fit us.

i ride on the street alot, wheelie, endo, jump, drop-off's, and basically just mess around flatland, but we also go through some trails, and jump rocks, and go through dirt stuff too.

so we have a budget, but we can ignore that for now, and get used need-be, what type of frame, and bike in general would we be looking at.

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

History don't matter the category of bikes. Doesn't matter if dirt bikes came from BMX. It isn't a trial bike and it isn't for same stuff. period.

BMX
chav

Trial bike (notice the frame)
Used to pass different "tracks" where you have to jump on objects and do balancing with one wheel for example etc etc
works the same way as motored trial bikes.
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/ ... tegory=7&date=2011-02
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Dirt bike / street
For tricks you do by going from jumps that throws you in the air high.
(look at my bike for example)

DH
Hi speed going on a downhill trail with jumps that throws you miles away. professionally time attacking or whatever it's called.
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Freeride
Name tells everything. Most likely to have full suspension bikes with more travel than normal bikes. Bikes go same category than DH but there can also be some hardtrails. You don't race in freeride. Just jump/go fast..

4X bike
Racing on wide dirt track.
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same as above to you...you also seem to know alot about bikes.

this is never going to reach a resolution, but dadge has a very good point about the "percents" staying the same.

but the dev's already dont care about the whole "why are there no updates" talk, so even then it wouldnt matter.

missed them

but that post about the "you are" hit me spot on

well i was giving my exact preference, but i was agreeing about how some like the xfg more then the bf1, giving myself as an example.

Quote from dadge :

it's the same reason why people enjoy the XFG more than the BF1.

like me. except the xrg, and preferably a little more power (like xrt)

for half i was actually like "ooh..that kinda looks like both.."

i have good experiences on most demo servers. you just have to be a little more aware of the less skilled.

Quote from p.m.sanchwe :

OP is a faggot.

major troll...second post with the same picture in...not long.

whats ngt now

but i missed the setup bit