Website wasn´t down for me the last day? As mentioned mail them they will take care of it of course.

Doesn´t sound that strange that it runs hot based on what you described on the first post? Obviously you shouldn´t use it if it behaves like that just RMA it.

The correct way to deal with it is of course to rma it. With all these faults I don´t think there will be a problem getting a replacement unless you bought it used?

You have to keep in mind people generally vote with what they have regardless if they tried the other product and not... this poll is as much do you have a 911 Turbo or a G25 poll .

G25 is not bad I was quite happy with it since it was better then what I used before .

since you are in the US you could not spend that much more and get an obutto ozone

Fanatec only sells though their website.

ECCI and VPP pedals must be on the list for sure. check the manufacturer forums at racesimcentral.com. BRD is quite popular though doesn´t get the reputation for quality as CST, VPP, ECCI.

Frex should also be on the list.

I do have CST pedals and I wholeheartly recommend it.
The reason you pay 700 USD for the CSTs is not just for the load cell... It´s for the design, the build quality and the realstic feel (except for the clutch) .

You can do a decent job with a simple piece of rubber like the nixim brake mod so a load cell in itself is not all. You can get more precision with a load cell yes but the question is if you have that precise muscles in your brake leg you can really utilize it fully. I was born with stiff wooden legs lol.

The CST pedals will last a lifetime or two so if you are dead serious with your simracing and plan on doing this for 20 years or something it´s not that bad of an investment having the best pedals available and not having to shell out 100$ or something every two years or so.

Well in my case it would increase the life span. I got rid of that pos after 1 week and bought a SST lightning shifter.

But the shifter should be able to take normal abuse. Imagine you are in a real car and the shifter nob comes loose.

You shouldn´t have to be really careful just use one finger to shift for example even though that is how the G25 shifter is designed obviously.

So it´s still Logitechs fault they didn´t make the shifter sturdy enough for normal use.

For big companies yes that can buy up patents and stop competition.

Guess how MS got so big

It will come I am sure. I think it´s only available to preorder in the US yet for some strange reason

No expert on drifting but doesn´t real drivers use excessive steering lock? I run 120 degrees in GRID for drifting lol

However even though G25 is marginally faster then the Fanatec wheel I suspect they are both really to slow for 900 degree setups? Then we are up to the FREX 1500$ wheel or what it´s.....

If you instead opt for less steering lock so you faster get from lock to lock any of the cheaper wheels do just great I am sure.

Logitech, Thrustmaster, Fanatec. But the cheaper Fanatec wheel is not out yet so unless you can wait some month look for some cheap Thrustmaster, Logitech offerings

Niels that is the Carrera wheel? And yes that is a cheaper weel supposed to compete against the DFP GT for example.

GT 3 RS is the same belt drive wheel as the 911 turbo.
As for force feedback engine well it´s huge compared to what logitech uses lol. Reason is probably cost. Fact is I wouldn´t dream of using max force feedback in most of the sims so FFB strength is not a problem. Of course it would have been nice if it was as fast as the Frex wheel it´s a tad slower than the G25

It has the same amount of buttons as the DFP. It has buttons for every button on the sixaxis which is important. Well except the playstation button and the two analog buttons. that is a shame you still need the Sixaxis to boot up the PS 3, or close games. But I haven´t really missed any buttons in GT5P, Midnight Club LA except the ps button.

Waiting for user reviews is never wrong

In the meanwhile if you have a cockpit or can mount them firmly you can try the nixim mod on your G25 pedals. Great brake feel with that Then since the RS wheel is sold separately and you are fine with the G25 pedals that is an option as well.

It´s pretty much the same as the old 911 turbo wheel internally so it has been tested already

gacek shifters can be ordered separately for 50 euro I think it´s. Or you could buy third party but shifters but that won´t work on consoles of course. Personally since I already have shifters I do preferr this.

Depends what you mean with a gimmick? You can make a good feeling brake pedal without a load cell. Nixim modded G25 pedals have quite a good feel on it if you can live you have to rest your foot on them (since you run with a 50 % deadzone until the rubber kicks in. Not to mention ECCI and VPP pedal sets that also don´t have any load cells and is quite well regarded. But certainly should give more precision if done right.

So yes load cell in itself doesn´t guarantee a more realistic brake pedal it depends on how well it´s implemented . And m

Quote from Tezuka :

The G25 is still a $200+ wheel. This one is $150 at retail ($130 if you pre-order)This Carrera wheel also uses the same FFB motor as the 911 turbo and that was all around, stronger than the G25 motor. The Shifter is also better .

Yeah you don't get a leather wheel but at least the diameter is bigger than the G25

It´s gear driven though no belt drive just for info .

Also I would suggest everyone that order it and don´t mount them permanently to get the metal plate as well. Pedals moving around and tipping over is very annoying

Shotglass everything is relative... Of course it can´t rival the Frex FFB wheel in force feedback strength but I can tell you it´s quite a bit more powerful then the G25 which uses two smaller FFB engines. I can´t use the max strength of it or I will feel the pain the day after ... So that isn´t really a problem for everyday use. In it´s price range this wheel has the strongest force feedback I am quite certain.

I got the 911 Turbo and I will preorder this one as soon as it´s available... Just because it´s christmas and looks. Internals are the same except for some electronics as on the 911 Turbo. I already have CST pedals but can´t wait to try these out as well.

the 911 Turbo did replace G25 for me. the only part where I preferred G25 was the pedals. Very moddable and you get great brake feel with the nixim brake mod. Even though by default the Fanatec felt better both in pedal placement and in feel. However for build quality on those I would give the notch to the G25 pedals definiatly.

As for the wheel really a non contest win for the 911 Turbo. Not a single point win for the G25 except for ever so marginally faster turning rates. But that is due to no resistance which is one of the problems with it...

Shifters are not included on the RS but I preferred them as well. I couldn´t even use the sequential on the G25 properly and there was no feel on the 6.1 shifter. Good that they are available separate for those that already have other shifters. SST Lightning and other third partys are more expensive but also better

So yes I am hitting F5 on their on-line shop all day long

http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm

seems like you are primarily looking for the 911 carrera wheel?

Okay so the force feedback in GT5P is just that poor then... I wasn´t impressed with the FFB with the porsche wheel but thought it might just be some settings not suitable for it

mike have you used the G25 in GT5P as well?

My impressions. I am happy to see that the wheel performs as when new still. pedals as well but I got CST pedals so I don´t use them much so can´t really give any report on how well they hold up here.

Shifter the same use SST lightning shifter mostly.

I have some issues though... the force feedback effects that stick in all ISI based sims sometimes when running on rumble strip. Fixed by simply disabling the rumble strip force feedback effects or like in rFactor to map the reset ffb function... Cheap fix hunt the next curb to cancel the effect not really a solution . Now that I have a buttkicker LFE I don´t really want the rumble effects on my wheel anyway. That force feedback effects is also about the only thing the G25 does better I have noticed probably due to it being a bit faster with it´s total lack of resistance

From what I have heard though this seem to be pretty unique for my operating system or wheel. Though I have reinstalled XP three times by now doesn´t matter obviously. Supposed to be fixed in the next driver release for Vista.
Other than that it happens that the dongle loose connection for a second or so. Not very often but I am happy the new Porsche wheels get an updated dongle where they at least promise this won´t happen at all. I do hope for a usb cable upgrade though just for safety. I have never ever had this happening with my previous USB cabled wheels or joysticks.

But well I would wait to order this especially with the new version coming out with 360 support on top, you can use G25 pedals, metal paddles and other stuff so I would go with that model unless this get a serious price cut of course.

So really happy with mine. I don´t use the pedals much as mentioned but the G25 pedals certainly have considerably better precision, no deadzones either and is easilly moddable so overall for simracing at least they are certainly better. The Fanatec pedals is a bit more comfortable with better spacing for my LFB I do in pretty much every sim except for some cars in LFS.

After running GT5P with the way it handles you won´t get much use of for example the better pedals on the G25... FFB is kind of rubbish in GT5... I don´t like it otherwise either but seeing how hard it´s to get the wheels loose the DFP pedals is more then up to the task for that game.

overkill to go for a G25 (which apart from pedals and H-shifter is very similar in feel) and even more so with the 911 Turbo wheel consequently...

I have only about 15 minutes seat time with the DFP GT but yes it reminded me quite a bit on the G25. Very weak force feedback but may just be the settings I didn´t have time to change that.

If you are also racing on the PC it kind of matters what you prioritize it´s of course never wrong to go for the higher end wheels... What does 100-200$ matters if you use a wheel in two years at least?

Have you heard it on youtube or tested a real unit? the sound is not that loud should be fine if you just close the door. I have never even thought about it being loud but yes I can hear it click a bit when changing gears. I don´t see how you could fix that though...