I'm sorry I don't have an answer for you , but I have a question for everyone else who is trying to help.

My computer has a lot of clutter on it (and its a little old, heh), and I'm trying to set up a seperate username for LFS. I already emptied my startup folder, and I manually ctrl-alt-delete pretty much everything run by the usename I logged into (Nothing with local service, network service, or system though. I've crashed it one to many times getting end process happy). Reading this thread though, I've seen MSCONFIG mentioned a few times. So I ran it ^.^

Is there any ways to tell what is what and what it does so I know what I can disable? I figure all I'll need running is virus protection, a firewall, graphics/sound/controller drivers, and everything else can die a horrible death via removing it's little checkmarks. If someone wants to PM me saying they'll help me, I'll upload screenshots of everything running so they can help me kill it all . But again, I'd rather a way to check what everything does so I can do it on my own time and not bother anyone else...

Thankies in advance . And sorry if this winds up hijacking the thread, I'm hoping for at most a single responce, or just some PMs.

Quote from xWolFx :

If anything could be done to reduce the amount of servers is limit the servers to maximum 2 servers per team. But I doubt this will be possible as many players will complain that they need more servers but I find that two servers should be enough. Redline Racing only uses about 2 servers which are in general full out of its three, and many other teams have at least 3 maybe 4 servers so why not just take away the servers that are least used and alternate the combo's on the common server.

I don't see any way, or reason, to limit the number of servers available to a team. I kinda like the fact that I can load an LFS server on my laptop (or work computer on the weekends... I mean, hey, THEY aren't using the T-1 bandwidth!) and run my own server. And I'm not part of a team. Does that mean I should be limited to being able to run zero servers? I see where you're comming from (too many servers, not enough players), but maybe there is a diffrent solution than restricting people like that?

Well, I was going to buy S2, but I had spent my whole paycheck for the next two months on College classes and books when I discovered LFS.

Then, a week before I got paid, I broke my Black MOMO racing wheel. Yanked the USB Cable right out of it... Then the delema came. Do I wait for the G25, or buy a replacement Momo and the G25 later, ending up with two wheels...

As time moves on, I wish more and more I had just bought a replacement MOMO rather than waiting for the G25, but the more I wish I had decided that earlier, the less and less 'worth it' it becomes as the G25 release date nears.

I've the money for S2 and G25, but because I'm such a -horrible- mouse driver, I've moved temporarly to a skinning/learning about real car setup focus while I wait. I don't need S2 for that, and if I do end up buying it online, I have to go through a whole hassle of a process to use the family credit card on it (because I don't trust Debit transactions online). I'd rather go through the hassle once for two products, than twice.

So yeah... Moral of the story... I need my G25! Grr! So... Desperate... Birthday in 1 month 4 days... Must have G25 before then so I can race in my first league on my birthday (LFS MoE-GT!)...

Back to scowering the net for local stores which will carry it on shelves soon...

Man... I've been waiting for it to show up in local stores to go out and grab it, and as each day crawls by, I wonder if I've made a big mistake...

I mean, I hoped when they showed I'd just be able to run over right away and grab one. I pass by a series of computer stores each day on my way home from work, and I check their websites daily (BestBuy and CompUSA, as well as a fewer smaller stores that specialize in gaming). However, I've seen no mention of G25 in any of them. Pre-order or otherwise...

I think tommorow I'm going to stop in each and every one of them and ask in person, but I'm starting to fear that my tactic to ensure I get it as soon as I can without waiting on shipping might backfire, and I won't find one sitting on a shelf for months . The only thing I have going for me is, apparently, Race Sims aren't that big in the US, so not many people are going to be in the market for a $300, 900degree turn wheel with a H-Stick. I hope...

Man... I really hope I get it soon... The anxiety is killing me... At least it gives me plenty of time to read up on setup tuning, which should help when I have a whole mess of cars to drive, but I can't put any theory to practice without my wheel (because I suck at driving with the mouse).

Need... Soon...

Quote from BurnOut69 :

"Theres a huge accident in the back, we dont know who it was...BUT back to topic" - keeps asking questions to his guest.

lol, we WANT to know who had a big crash, having guests is nice, but we're watching the stream because we're interested on hows the race going

Yeah, I tried to reference the live-tracker screen to see who it was, but I didn't manage to figure it out. But my guess is they pitted pretty quickly, though looking at it, I wonder what happened. They swooshed right into the sand trap pretty quickly. Flat out missed the brake point? I've never driven the track (duh), so I don't know what that turn is like.

Quote from C0nscript :

Its dutch

That explains why babelfish was having difficulty translating, heh. Much better. Now I can read half the words....

After downloading that monster of a video, and watching it, I a bit of opinion I'd like to give . First, a disclaimer. Yes, I'm only a demo user right now (), so I've never driven anything really fast, or with an open top, or on the oval... That being said...

Personally, in the XRG/XRT, I've never really noticed a sound diffrence while drafting, which never really bothered me. I've been in some hairy situations in real life, one of which involved me swerving to avoid an accident at 80 mi/hr (129 km/h) behind a rather large semi-truck with less than a car length between us. I drive a passanger car and I did not notice a significanly large drop in wind sound in the brief moment I spent in the truck's draft before being able to ease back (I had squeezed in front of an SUV, so I had to wait for him to inch back before braking). I did, however, notice that while back there, applying less gas slowed me down less than normal (as expected).

However, I also own a bike. Me and my dad, who has a bigger bike, go riding on them through the country highways. While in the process of switching from the left to the right side of the lane (often so he is on the inside of the turns, so he doesn't have to worry about where I am while he's turning. Other times so he's on the side of the larger vehicle of the road, as he can take the wind from driving near them better than I can) I can definatly feel -and- hear the draft. My legs, most noteably, tell me when I'm in his draft because the wind, literally, almost comes to a stop (usually only one leg at a time, heh). I can also hear a diffrence, dispite wearing a helmet (3/4, not full face).

It would make sense to me that, depending on the car, the audiable cues of a draft would vary. If LFS does that, YIPPIE! If not, its something I think might warrent a little looking into one day, though there are plenty of more wonderful things I'm sure we'd all love to have. However, I suspect when the who audio gets a work over, that might be on the list to be looked into.

What I mean by 'depending on the car', is that the open toped cars (both the Formula and the... LX6 I think, and the UF1000 looks like it has an open top option (according the the CMX viewer)) would have a more audioable wind-sound at speed, and more noticeable when drafting. Also, I suspect that because the XRG and XRT are based on (what I feel to be) passanger cars used on the race track, it would make sense that the sound is damped that much more. Passanger comfort. But racecars probably wouldn't care very much about that, so the sound would probably be louder in the GTR cars.

My two cents. Don't try to spend them anywhere, cause they're from my savings for S2. Give them back! .

Last edited by Shinrar, Fri 22 Sep 2006, 03:15. Reason : Grammer, heh

Amazing... I can't wait.... Why does it have to be so far away!? And why doesn't Amazon have an expected arrival date? (Rhetorical questions, I don't expect anyone to answer )

Quote from juggle :

just picked up myG25 today woohoo

very smooth action on wheel pedals are superb with good weighting, gear selector also accurate. All components havew agood quality feel. ill post more as i get used to it..

*extreme levels of jealousy*

Looking forward to hearing your opinion as a consumer . I can't wait until someone has it near me... Come on Amazon... I need it!

I belive it . Good stuff, heh. My only regreat is my lack of license, and thus my lack of ability to steward... Hrm, you know, if the position is still empty (doubtful) by the time I get my license (soon), I'll apply. Just to let you know that there is interest floating about . Also, being a new to S2, I wouldn't have any bias! heh.

A friend of mine hosts a demo server I admin on, and generally we feel that we shouldn't allow restarts for the most part. Let people deal with their own antics into T-1 (If we see anyone purposly wrecking, being demo, we just ban them right off the bat, so T-1 usually isn't that bad).

Because most of the regulars on our server know this, they don't dive into T-1 with the intent of First or Bust. To help the non-regulars, the server owner occasionally hits his macro that says "Race will NOT restart because of T-1! Drive safe! ". And should there be a big T-1 Accident, most people learn after a few races to take it easy. Because of that, we've had a lot of really clean starts into T-1 on the server, because people don't try to book it on cold(er) tires.

That said, if its just the two of us on the grid, and we're just doing out eight millionth Blackwood lap, and someone joins and votes for a restart, we usually go with it. Afterall, its fun to race with new people .

On the flip side, however, I'd like to make a point. A lot of servers run 5 lap sprints. For the shorter tracks like Blackwood in the XRT (when dealing with consistant racers, so few mistakes), first into T-1 usually is enough to keep you in front the whole race. Reason being, passing a consistant racer is difficult, unless you make a ballsy move that, when it fails, results in you wrecking anyways (thus promoting less clean, more dangerous races). I suspect this would be less of an issue on the longer circuits, but thats just theortical thinking. Thats why when I start hosting when I get S2, I think I'm going for longer 10-15 lap runs .

Possibly, but then I'd have to A-Mount it at a funny angle, B-Learn to write a Force-Feedback program so it'll act like a handbrake (IE, go up with a tug and stay there, but I have to push a button to 'deactivate' the FF to push it back down). It just seemed easier to learn how pots work, gut my now-usless MomoRacing pedals, and build a mechanism that does it mechanically rather than relying on behavioral software.

LOL. Thats pretty funny. I was thinking about periodicly adding things to my racing rig once I get my wheel in (G25... Come on!), such as a handbrake lever (I'd have to design it somehow. Its on my to-do list to figure out how), or a multi-moniter setup...

But a horn! GAH! Why didn't I think of that?! Man, now I've gotta look into adding one to the G25 .

P.S.
I like your racing rig , looks fun!

I have the video, so I'll see what I can do about uploading it to google or U-Tube as soon as I can compile the credits for who made the thing, and as permission from those who made it.

IMHO, however, its not too much to look that that can't be described. Just an intro with a bunch of cars running around (essentually, it shows the 'best moments' of one of the leagues, rounds 1-4), and at the end has a big League logo that hovers for a moment before fading out.

Sorta like at the start of your broadcast, but instead of "South City, Sprint I" have something more particular to your league (Yes, I know its on the top . I'm just claifying what I think he was suggesting).

Quote from Leifde :

EDIT: Here's the PSD with the badges and logo which will be required for next season. If you do not have photoshop then please PM me and I will add it to your skin. I have added it to Soki's skin already so you can see where the badges and logo go so you can clear room for it on your skin

Are we allowed to edit the design of the badges (if not the exact placement) while keeping the context in our skins? Or do you want us to use that particular badge? It just seems kinda, plain . No offense intended. Plus with stretching it looks like it will be realllllly wide...

And it looks like I slept in too late again to make the demo league. Oops. I'll have to commit for next season. Hopefully.

Thats weird. I downloaded it in roughly an hour, which probably put it in the 100kb/s range. Ish. I wasn't paying tooo much attention. I started downloaded, saw the Estimated time, and cooked/ate dinner. Came back an hour and five minutes later, it was done.

Sadly though, my ISP blocks Torrents somehow (ports issue I suspect), and I never got the urge to figure out what was wrong and fix it. So I can't host it for you, sorry.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Don't we seem to have acquired lot of new racers in the last couple of months?

Has there been some major publicity recently in the wider gaming world or are they sim racers coming from other sims?

Having joined August first (a month and a half ago!) I belive I fall into that catagory!

Speaking for myself, personally, I didn't come from another racing game. I was, infact, talking to a Finnish friend of mine on a diffrent game entirely, and she mentioned it as being a highly realistic simulator. I liked cars already . I downloaded it, was interested, and forgot about it for a week. A week later, I found my old wheel, plugged it in, feel in love...
:lovies3d:

As for everyone else, I have no idea how they found LFS, because I'm not then. But a poll sounds like a good idea...

Quote from Funnybear :

Again, let me reiterate, a top notch job. And I will be wanting to be racing myself in the league pretty soon just so I can hear Tristan say 'Funnybear' over the T'interweb.

Heh. Though, funnybear, I suspect (judging by everyone else's names) you'll have to modify yours a little (Such as, F. Bear), so I doubt he'll say your full name. Though, I'll admit, it would be funny to hear .

Then again, maybe they'll let you stick out with the full name. Afterall, it is their race, they can do what they want .

I've seen some of those views before, so I know they're possible (through custom camera work I'd wager), but if they were actually hard coded camera locations (with favorite keys!) it would make people like Becky's job a lot easier.

It might also encourage more dynamic video work (I've notice a few people's 'first videos' are a little lacking in such). On the flip side, however, some people might complain that giving more than 2 or 3 pre-set cameras for cars might encourage people to use less custom camera work...

Personally, I think it would be a cool idea, but then again, my opinion is likely null and void until I shell out my 24 pounds (OT: Blasted exchange rate. Thats $45.06 right now. Oh well, it was up to $45.16 earlier today. Heh, I think its kinda funny that, for me, it really -does- become cheaper depending on when I buy it! Hrm. I'll have to ask around what exchange rate pay-pal uses on credit cards. Then I might be able to actually pay less for the game one day than another, whill the devs still get the same amount of money, heh. But should the day my wheel arrives comes, and I'm still licenseless, I'll be shelling out anything below $60 to get it, heh).

I was watching (again ) and I suddenly had an idea for improvement.

Now, this being a sim, its mostly understood that not all of the camera shots would be possible in real life. This of course make sense, use what you have access to!

However, the in car views (34:33 - 34:40, noteably), the camera bobs around while inside the car... I don't play with cameras very much, but is it possible to elimite the bob? I would think it has to do with the g-forces (under the options menu) exerted on the car, but being at work rather than home, I can't test this.

I would think a Camera, IRL, would be mounted so as it wouldn't bob, but remain in a fixed position inside the car (so I guess a little bob and roll would be needed, because the cars pitch/roll under high-g braking/cornering, depending on the suspension). I mean, it wasn't such a big deal that it bothered me, but I guessed suggestions for improvement might be welcome

And note, if it isn't possible to eliminate it, oh well *shrug*. It still looks really nice.

All I can say, personally, is Wow .

Things like this make it possible to go through day after day until I can get my new wheel (old one broke, and I'll be getting S2 at the same time!). It was really great too! I especially liked the bits with the replays, rather than always having the camera in the right place at the right time. But thats just me .

Also, Tristan, I think you did a fine job (especially for a first time!). Also, as that was your first time viewing the footage, I think it helped make sure you didn't inadvertantly spoil any outcome in the race. As a final note, after watching the video for a while, I found myself forgetting it was a Sim Race (probably more possible for me, who has never driven in South City, than most of you)! You even started to sound very professional as you got into it!

Kudos to everyone involved, from racers, to server hosts, to video directors, to commentators!

And Jakg, its a shame about that little problem you had at the end. I couldn't quite figure out what happened until you mentioned the recallibration issue. But that J-Turn recovery helped you keep onto 2nd place, and was really quick reaction time on your part. You may not have gotten first, but I don't think anyone will hold it against you.

Thanks again to everyone involved for giving 40 minutes of my work time purpose .

Quote from Rtsbasic :

Wonder if the shifter will be any good or not..apparently the ones they had a few months ago felt pretty sloppy.

From what I understand, the ones they had about at the time were demonstration models, not production models. One of the goals of it was to take notes on 'areas for improvement', and because everyone complained about the shifter...

Lets just hope Logitech listened

On noticing that Geekseek's website had an actual release date posted on it, I went looking at other distributors (in the US), such as Amazon and the like. A shame, none of them have a release date . And the logitech website just says 'october' (which, actually, geekseek says its really late september. Global? European? Or are the distributors mis-informed?).

I really hope its the beginning of october (or end of september!) that it's released, rather than sometime mid- to late-Oeptember. I've been wheelless too long. I'd probably also end up buying both the wheel and my license at the same time, hehe. Spend the days while I'm waiting for my wheel to arrive... Well, wishing my wheel was here. Me and my mouse don't agree so-far as racing is concerned.

Maybe I'll use the time to perfectly setup my wheel so its comfortable, natural, and situated in a custom built desk . Hrm... My uncle does carpentry...

Curious...

I don't have my S2 license yet, but when I do, I've a few computers laying around (as well as a sever attached to a T-1 line at work that wouldn't miss a bit of processing power ) that I'll probably install deticated servers onto. And when I do, I'm planning on joining the wrecker barricade . (As it stands now, I have to manually kick/ban people from my friend's server. He only runs it when me or him are around admining, so we have clean racing most of the time. But we've actually gotten a few regular visitors!)

Anyways, my question is, when I join... What about all the people previously added to the list? Do I get a massive spam of e-mails about every wrecking inccident prior to the date I sign up, or will I only get e-mails henceforth (and thus, not block people banned on several other servers because of their history of wrecking)?

Because we're already talking about drafting, I have a few questions about it . Essentually, I know it is implemented in the game, but how much of 'drafting' is modeled?

What about when two cars are side by side? Wouldn't the air flow, rather than increasing speed (drafting), actually cause the two side-by-side cars to go slower because of the small space you're pushing air into?

Also, does drafting reduce the drag, and thus increase the speed, on the lead car as well?

I'd test these out myself, but I don't really have a very accurate way of messuring it at all, so I guess I'm more asking what your observations are.