Team name: Independent Racing Mates
Number: 23
Car: FZ3
Drivers:
Mats Sjöblom, sjoblom, Sweden
Bertil Holmberg, Cawwa, Sweden
Hans Melin, nobreaks11, Sweden
Number: 23
Car: FZ3
Drivers:
Mats Sjöblom, sjoblom, Sweden
Bertil Holmberg, Cawwa, Sweden
Hans Melin, nobreaks11, Sweden
Don't be afraid about the strange Swedish language ... we all speek english as well so np chatting in eng on the server 
Deko, any plans for KY500 this year 
You lucky bastards!
I made it to grid 19, but my dear wife had other plans for Saturday, no options given
Thanx all for all good racing at the practise sessions and the final quali session. Have a Fun race on Sat, CU next KY event
And remember what Deko always says on the Team Speak:
Keep it Clean!
I made it to grid 19, but my dear wife had other plans for Saturday, no options given
Thanx all for all good racing at the practise sessions and the final quali session. Have a Fun race on Sat, CU next KY event
And remember what Deko always says on the Team Speak:
Keep it Clean!
ThursdayRace Event Rules
Summary.
All rules below boils down to one rule:
Race your competitors hard and fair, but drive in the same way as if you were driving a race car IRL. We want ALL our drivers to return safe and unhurt to their families at home after the race event!
Follow that simple rule, and we will all have a great race event!
Have FUN :-)
Race Administration Torsdagsrejset
Requirements.
It is expected that you have trained at the track before so you will not be completely unprepared for this race. It is also expected that you drive in a fair manner, use common sense and respect all the other drivers on the track.
Registration.
Registration for the Thursday race closes one hour before qualifying begins. After that you can still register for the race, but you can not expect that you will get the password for the race. Registration is personal, which means that you only sign up for yourself. You are not allowed to give out the password to someone else who is not registered.
- Register to each race by filling in this formula!
- Here you can see who is attending races in current season!
Common qualify.
Unless otherwise noted, this is the qualifying procedure:
• As a driver you will choose the server you prefer to qualify on, A or B (preferably the lowest number of connected drivers).
• You may drive as many laps you want / have time for as long as the qualifying session is in progress.
• During qualifying, you can press "shift-i" to see the current qualifying results in a special qualifying table. If posted, you may need to switch server after qualifying. The special results table tells you where to go.
• All setup changes, tire changes and refuelling must be done in the pit box, it is not allowed to go into the garage (shift-P) to change your setup.
• Always check the right, left, rear view mirrors and a "mini-map" when you leave the depot.
• When you're out of your qualifying lap, yield for drivers still on hotlap.
• If you wreck your so bad that it gets impossible to drive, you must go to spectate mode (shift-s) or into the garage (shift-P). Your qualification is then over. It is not allowed to rejoin with a new car and continue to qualify.
• Protests from the qualifiers are handled the same way as the protests at the race.
Super-Pole Qualifying.
When qualifying with the Super-Pole, you have only one attempt to make your qualifying time. While making your qualifying lap, you are all alone on the track. We normally use the Super-Pole when we want a little bit more exciting and nervous qualifying, seems everyone else looks at you when you do your hotlap qualify!
This is how Super-Pole works:
• When the qualifying session begins, all drivers must leave the track and become spectators (shift-s).
• An admin will call up one driver at a time. Join the race when you hear/read your name. (Shift-j).
• Leave the pit immediately and begin your outlap.
• After your outlap is done, proceed immediately to your "hotlap". This hotlap will set your qualify time.
• Once you finish your hotlap, leave the track in a safe way asap (shift-s).
• It is not allowed to zigzag back and forth to warm the tires.
• You only get one try. You may not restart your quali even if you have an accident during the outlap or the qualifying lap.
• Race Admins will call you only once. If you don't respond, you have missed your qualification and must start at the back of the field.
Lag start.
Lag start is not present in the TR.
Restarts.
There will be no race restart no matter what! Whether half the field crashes, someone is asleep at the grid or if someone looses their connection.
Overtaking.
It is always the upcoming car's responsibility to ensure that no contact is made. If you must pass a car through a curve, you must be in level with the other car. Inserting your front at the height of the rear wheels of the car ahead is not acceptable.
When two cars get side by side, both drivers are expected to show full respect and leave enough room for each other.
Defensive driving.
Defensive driving means that you as the car ahead, has the right to defend your position for overtaking cars, e.g. by blocking. A blocking means that you are permitted to leave your racing line once and then return to it. This action can only be done once on every straight.
Pit stop.
Pitstop can be enforced at some races with a "Pitstop window "function".
This means that pitstop must be made between a number of laps in race. E.g. a race is 26 laps and at least one pitstop has to be done between lap 15-20. You can do more pitstop at any time if you must do extra service on your car.
Every race announcement will tell you if pitstop is mandatory.
You may not cross the yellow line when driving OUT from the pit depot.
Yellow flag
A yellow flag means that something has happened in front of you, a car may be standing on or off the track. It is not an offence to make an overtaking during a yellow flag, but you must be careful not causing any incident. If you cause an incident under a yellow flag, it might be punished very hard. If you dirve your car off track, you must give way to the cars that still reside on track while rejoining the track.
Blue Flag
A blue flag indicates that you are about to be overlapped. It is your responsibility to respond to this by as soon as possible let the upcoming car pass you in a safe way. E.g. lower the speed on a straight or take the outer track in a bend. You do not have to run off the track, but you should let the upcoming car pass you within three curves (if it's close enough to pass). The upcoming car is responsible for overtaking you in a safe manner. Note that it is not allowed to use the blue flag favour to overtake when you're not the car that is lapping the other car.
Shortcuts.
Always have at least two wheels on the track (kurbs and "green concrete areas" are counted as part of the track). If you have more than 2 wheels off the track, this will be considered as taking a shortcut, and punished hereby.
Reset / Telepit / Midrace Join
The server is set up with "no car reset". E.g. if you get stuck on the roof, the only option available is to press Shift + P and go to spectate mode. It is not allowed to teleport to the depot and rejoin race.
If you disconnect during the race or your computer crashes for some reason, it's OK to reconnect to our LFS-server and rejoin the race. But all laps before the disconnect will not be counted. You restart the race from lap 1 again, when rejoining in this way.
You can't join the race after it has started. (Ask for permission in chat and an Admin might give you permission
Stay alert during race. Remember to check mirrors and "minimap" frequently. If you drive out off the track, make sure the track area is clear before you rejoin race track.
Chat
"Conversation" Chat is only allowed outside Qualifying and Race time.
Short comments like smiley's, sorrows and cheers are allowed during Quali and Race.
Pls respect this, so we will have as many drivers as possible keeping there chat open during the whole event.
Protests / Penalties
If you have observed or been exposed to any violations, you can file a protest to the Race Staff. Send a formal pm to one of the Race Administrators with this mandatory facts:
• When did it happen? (LFS race time + lap)
• Where did it happen? (Turn no),
• Who did what? (Short description of the event)
Protest not fulfilling these basic demands will not be expedited!
After a complaint, admins will discuss and evaluate the incident described. Penalties can be obtained in a range from a warning to a season ban. Deduction of points, "30 sec penalty", starting last in the next race is examples of other kind punishment you can get, it all depends on the seriousness of the rule violation.
Here are some guidelines for punishments handed out:
1. At unsportsmanlike behaviour it's the organizers' right to determine the appropriate punishment.
E.g. :
- Honking and other disruptive behaviour during qualifying and race.
- Run into other cars on purpose during qualifying and race.
- Overtaking a blue flagged car while on the same lap as the blue flagged car.
- Nasty epithets in event chat and event forum. All disagreements should be settled by filing a protest to Race Admins. Arguing in the chat after race is considered as a serious offence and may lead to serious punishment. We want our events to be nice and friendly.
2. Incidents such as "did not follow the flag rules" or "run over the pit exit line".
Penalty = 10 points deduction.
3. Incident between two cars and one car "suffering".
The "suffering" car makes it to goal. Considered as a minor incident.
Penalty = 20 points deduction.
A good idea might be to wait for the "suffering" car and let him pass you ... he might not file a protest against you then
4. Incident between two cars where the "suffering" car has to break the race (DNF).
Considered to be more serious.
Penalty = 30 points deduction.
5. Violating race rules.
Penalty = 30 points deduction.
For example:
- Not following the "Pit window" rule.
- Not fulfilling mandatory pit service.
- Any violation is punished separately.
6. Major incident with large amount of cars involved.
Penalty = 50 points deduction.
All rules below boils down to one rule:
Race your competitors hard and fair, but drive in the same way as if you were driving a race car IRL. We want ALL our drivers to return safe and unhurt to their families at home after the race event!
Follow that simple rule, and we will all have a great race event!
Have FUN :-)
Race Administration Torsdagsrejset
Requirements.
It is expected that you have trained at the track before so you will not be completely unprepared for this race. It is also expected that you drive in a fair manner, use common sense and respect all the other drivers on the track.
Registration.
Registration for the Thursday race closes one hour before qualifying begins. After that you can still register for the race, but you can not expect that you will get the password for the race. Registration is personal, which means that you only sign up for yourself. You are not allowed to give out the password to someone else who is not registered.
- Register to each race by filling in this formula!
- Here you can see who is attending races in current season!
Common qualify.
Unless otherwise noted, this is the qualifying procedure:
• As a driver you will choose the server you prefer to qualify on, A or B (preferably the lowest number of connected drivers).
• You may drive as many laps you want / have time for as long as the qualifying session is in progress.
• During qualifying, you can press "shift-i" to see the current qualifying results in a special qualifying table. If posted, you may need to switch server after qualifying. The special results table tells you where to go.
• All setup changes, tire changes and refuelling must be done in the pit box, it is not allowed to go into the garage (shift-P) to change your setup.
• Always check the right, left, rear view mirrors and a "mini-map" when you leave the depot.
• When you're out of your qualifying lap, yield for drivers still on hotlap.
• If you wreck your so bad that it gets impossible to drive, you must go to spectate mode (shift-s) or into the garage (shift-P). Your qualification is then over. It is not allowed to rejoin with a new car and continue to qualify.
• Protests from the qualifiers are handled the same way as the protests at the race.
Super-Pole Qualifying.
When qualifying with the Super-Pole, you have only one attempt to make your qualifying time. While making your qualifying lap, you are all alone on the track. We normally use the Super-Pole when we want a little bit more exciting and nervous qualifying, seems everyone else looks at you when you do your hotlap qualify!
This is how Super-Pole works:
• When the qualifying session begins, all drivers must leave the track and become spectators (shift-s).
• An admin will call up one driver at a time. Join the race when you hear/read your name. (Shift-j).
• Leave the pit immediately and begin your outlap.
• After your outlap is done, proceed immediately to your "hotlap". This hotlap will set your qualify time.
• Once you finish your hotlap, leave the track in a safe way asap (shift-s).
• It is not allowed to zigzag back and forth to warm the tires.
• You only get one try. You may not restart your quali even if you have an accident during the outlap or the qualifying lap.
• Race Admins will call you only once. If you don't respond, you have missed your qualification and must start at the back of the field.
Lag start.
Lag start is not present in the TR.
Restarts.
There will be no race restart no matter what! Whether half the field crashes, someone is asleep at the grid or if someone looses their connection.
Overtaking.
It is always the upcoming car's responsibility to ensure that no contact is made. If you must pass a car through a curve, you must be in level with the other car. Inserting your front at the height of the rear wheels of the car ahead is not acceptable.
When two cars get side by side, both drivers are expected to show full respect and leave enough room for each other.
Defensive driving.
Defensive driving means that you as the car ahead, has the right to defend your position for overtaking cars, e.g. by blocking. A blocking means that you are permitted to leave your racing line once and then return to it. This action can only be done once on every straight.
Pit stop.
Pitstop can be enforced at some races with a "Pitstop window "function".
This means that pitstop must be made between a number of laps in race. E.g. a race is 26 laps and at least one pitstop has to be done between lap 15-20. You can do more pitstop at any time if you must do extra service on your car.
Every race announcement will tell you if pitstop is mandatory.
You may not cross the yellow line when driving OUT from the pit depot.
Yellow flag
A yellow flag means that something has happened in front of you, a car may be standing on or off the track. It is not an offence to make an overtaking during a yellow flag, but you must be careful not causing any incident. If you cause an incident under a yellow flag, it might be punished very hard. If you dirve your car off track, you must give way to the cars that still reside on track while rejoining the track.
Blue Flag
A blue flag indicates that you are about to be overlapped. It is your responsibility to respond to this by as soon as possible let the upcoming car pass you in a safe way. E.g. lower the speed on a straight or take the outer track in a bend. You do not have to run off the track, but you should let the upcoming car pass you within three curves (if it's close enough to pass). The upcoming car is responsible for overtaking you in a safe manner. Note that it is not allowed to use the blue flag favour to overtake when you're not the car that is lapping the other car.
Shortcuts.
Always have at least two wheels on the track (kurbs and "green concrete areas" are counted as part of the track). If you have more than 2 wheels off the track, this will be considered as taking a shortcut, and punished hereby.
Reset / Telepit / Midrace Join
The server is set up with "no car reset". E.g. if you get stuck on the roof, the only option available is to press Shift + P and go to spectate mode. It is not allowed to teleport to the depot and rejoin race.
If you disconnect during the race or your computer crashes for some reason, it's OK to reconnect to our LFS-server and rejoin the race. But all laps before the disconnect will not be counted. You restart the race from lap 1 again, when rejoining in this way.
You can't join the race after it has started. (Ask for permission in chat and an Admin might give you permission
Stay alert during race. Remember to check mirrors and "minimap" frequently. If you drive out off the track, make sure the track area is clear before you rejoin race track.
Chat
"Conversation" Chat is only allowed outside Qualifying and Race time.
Short comments like smiley's, sorrows and cheers are allowed during Quali and Race.
Pls respect this, so we will have as many drivers as possible keeping there chat open during the whole event.
Protests / Penalties
If you have observed or been exposed to any violations, you can file a protest to the Race Staff. Send a formal pm to one of the Race Administrators with this mandatory facts:
• When did it happen? (LFS race time + lap)
• Where did it happen? (Turn no),
• Who did what? (Short description of the event)
Protest not fulfilling these basic demands will not be expedited!
After a complaint, admins will discuss and evaluate the incident described. Penalties can be obtained in a range from a warning to a season ban. Deduction of points, "30 sec penalty", starting last in the next race is examples of other kind punishment you can get, it all depends on the seriousness of the rule violation.
Here are some guidelines for punishments handed out:
1. At unsportsmanlike behaviour it's the organizers' right to determine the appropriate punishment.
E.g. :
- Honking and other disruptive behaviour during qualifying and race.
- Run into other cars on purpose during qualifying and race.
- Overtaking a blue flagged car while on the same lap as the blue flagged car.
- Nasty epithets in event chat and event forum. All disagreements should be settled by filing a protest to Race Admins. Arguing in the chat after race is considered as a serious offence and may lead to serious punishment. We want our events to be nice and friendly.
2. Incidents such as "did not follow the flag rules" or "run over the pit exit line".
Penalty = 10 points deduction.
3. Incident between two cars and one car "suffering".
The "suffering" car makes it to goal. Considered as a minor incident.
Penalty = 20 points deduction.
A good idea might be to wait for the "suffering" car and let him pass you ... he might not file a protest against you then
4. Incident between two cars where the "suffering" car has to break the race (DNF).
Considered to be more serious.
Penalty = 30 points deduction.
5. Violating race rules.
Penalty = 30 points deduction.
For example:
- Not following the "Pit window" rule.
- Not fulfilling mandatory pit service.
- Any violation is punished separately.
6. Major incident with large amount of cars involved.
Penalty = 50 points deduction.
Last edited by sjoblom, .
Sorry for my late withdraw after managed the quali, but sometimes IRL life disrupts the LFS plans ...
Have fun all of you racing on Sat
Better put my rookie-stripes on again!
Started race with KY nascar REVERSED set
First i thought it was me just joining from GT3 cup not used to the car ... but on lap 3 right tyres were just burning .. then i realised the fatal misstake.
So i had to go to pitlane, reconfiguring my whole setup without visiting the garage ... took some time i can assure you.
Well, lesson learned, that's what practise sessions are meant for
Started race with KY nascar REVERSED set
First i thought it was me just joining from GT3 cup not used to the car ... but on lap 3 right tyres were just burning .. then i realised the fatal misstake.
So i had to go to pitlane, reconfiguring my whole setup without visiting the garage
... took some time i can assure you.Well, lesson learned, that's what practise sessions are meant for
I have to drive one stint at the GT3 event first, so i be on around 18:15 UTC
Looking forward to this session with mandatory pit, put some more strategic thinking into the race
Also have my new skin without the rookie stripe :-)
Looking forward to this session with mandatory pit, put some more strategic thinking into the race
Also have my new skin without the rookie stripe :-)
Thats midnite to 02:00 in Sweden ... will be in this session if im not to tired :sleep2:
Pretty good event at the 2:nd half, had som nice bumping/drafting with some guys
S. Martin, I think we had made it to the top cars ahead of us if we had worked together instead of hotlapping by our own ...
Don't be afraid to dance with me guys, I'm sure faithful to my dancing partner, don't usually run away
S. Martin, I think we had made it to the top cars ahead of us if we had worked together instead of hotlapping by our own ...
Don't be afraid to dance with me guys, I'm sure faithful to my dancing partner, don't usually run away
Will join late at the Quali ... will be home just when Q start and I must have dinner before I join
Didnt manage to attend this due to other league racing.
Will try to attend the session on Friday
Will try to attend the session on Friday
Make it race sessions, much more fun Mandatory green pitstop with tyre change as we had in session 4 (?) is also adding some extra spice to the event
Mandatory green pitstop with tyre change as we had in session 4 (?) is also adding some extra spice to the event This session was much better than yesterday, had some fun bumping tonite and some fun saves from the grass at the pile ups
Thanx all admins for another great event at NDR
Thanx all admins for another great event at NDR
I will try to join. Will be late thou, on my way for home right now by train
Thanx Deko for this practise session ... hopefully we get more green laps next time, cant understand why everybody has to win the race on the first green lap :detective
Also cant understand the behaviour of the driver that was banging all cars on his side while he was claiming his position and warming tyres on the long yellow flag period around lap 40+ ... stupid
Btw, saw u were discussing time zones, this is the very best timezone page on the web, it has all:
http://timeanddate.com
The meeting planner on this site is the very best I ever seen:
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html
Sure saves my day at work, planning meetings with Sweden, India and Brazil (all with different/none winter/summertime) at the same occasion
CU at next race practise session
Also cant understand the behaviour of the driver that was banging all cars on his side while he was claiming his position and warming tyres on the long yellow flag period around lap 40+ ... stupid
Btw, saw u were discussing time zones, this is the very best timezone page on the web, it has all:
http://timeanddate.com
The meeting planner on this site is the very best I ever seen:
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html
Sure saves my day at work, planning meetings with Sweden, India and Brazil (all with different/none winter/summertime) at the same occasion
CU at next race practise session
I will probably attend, depends on another race event I'm supposed to do admin job at, but it will probably be cancelled as it looks now ...
- Is the practise session Qual a hotlap quali or free driving qual?
- Reset allowed at quali?
- If more than 30 attending the Q, only the fastest 30 will go further to the race. Does this mean that if you don't make it to the race, this practise session is not counted for those drivers?
EDIT: Deko, might be a good idea to update the "Practice Sessions Register" thread as well ... might be more than me that subcribes to that tread to get a email when the tread is updated in order not to miss a practise session :-)
- Is the practise session Qual a hotlap quali or free driving qual?
- Reset allowed at quali?
- If more than 30 attending the Q, only the fastest 30 will go further to the race. Does this mean that if you don't make it to the race, this practise session is not counted for those drivers?
EDIT: Deko, might be a good idea to update the "Practice Sessions Register" thread as well ... might be more than me that subcribes to that tread to get a email when the tread is updated in order not to miss a practise session :-)
Last edited by sjoblom, .
Maybe you could create a locked tread were you just post the practise session ongoing schedule without any discussions. Then it will very easy to find that important info
Fun race for sure, but the start at the back of the field was a disaster. No order at all, were u all sleeping or what? I wont bother making a protest, but I would be glad to have the rules explained how to act in this situation:
The guy in front of me totally miss the green flag and is just lurking around at green when all the cars ahead of him disappears way ahead. I had to break hard, instead of floor the pedal, due to the rule that I'm not allowed to pass him before the start/goal line.
Or ... Is it OK to pass before the line in a start situation like this?
I wont bother making a protest, but I would be glad to have the rules explained how to act in this situation:The guy in front of me totally miss the green flag and is just lurking around at green when all the cars ahead of him disappears way ahead. I had to break hard, instead of floor the pedal, due to the rule that I'm not allowed to pass him before the start/goal line.
Or ... Is it OK to pass before the line in a start situation like this?
YES
Been waiting for this all winter, thanx Deko and NDR for giving us KY250 2012
Been waiting for this all winter, thanx Deko and NDR for giving us KY250 2012
Session: Race 3
Lap: 58
Timecode: 2:04:15
Cars: #23 and #07
Description: #07 leves pit in a dangeroys way, blocking me in the chicane so I loose control and car #37 crash into me.
OK, #07 tried to yield but there was no way for me to see that, I turned all left cus i thought he was in the middle of the chicane by my side. Not 100% sure what rules says about pit exit, so this example might clarify it
Lap: 58
Timecode: 2:04:15
Cars: #23 and #07
Description: #07 leves pit in a dangeroys way, blocking me in the chicane so I loose control and car #37 crash into me.
OK, #07 tried to yield but there was no way for me to see that, I turned all left cus i thought he was in the middle of the chicane by my side. Not 100% sure what rules says about pit exit, so this example might clarify it
hmmm ... english is not my native language so I don't really get that msg, think I need an explanation
Its cool my friend, we all appreciate all the effort and time you put into this event to let us have som fun Sat evenings
Any startgrid set yet?
Sorry for my rejoin to the Q session, as I stated above I was given the task to perform one Q lap on GT3 before joining the Nascar KY400 ... well I joined the wrong server in the switch and ended up on GT3 again ... and barely made it to the KY400 after that mistake
So I had no intention at all to cheat on the GT3 quali, just a human error from me
Sorry for my rejoin to the Q session, as I stated above I was given the task to perform one Q lap on GT3 before joining the Nascar KY400 ... well I joined the wrong server in the switch and ended up on GT3 again
... and barely made it to the KY400 after that mistake So I had no intention at all to cheat on the GT3 quali, just a human error from me
Great stream. great commentating
You were all confused about my pitstop and Drive through, well I was as well. I just messes it all up
Love your comment on my save when i got pushed on the grass ... but I really have to teach u how to pronounce my name until next Nascar event 
FGED GREDG RDFGDR GSFDG