Absolutely.
We all got what we paid for and anything else we receive now and in the future for no extra charge is a bonus.
If nothing else it demonstrates how quickly time goes by.
Peace out
Thank you to the last few people who have posted. The reaction I was hoping for.
I've had a go early on. Hopefully the more people become aware of this the more chance there will be having a few people on the server at the same time.
The times you can do with the car are slightly quicker than FO8, so that's pretty good.
The times you can do with the car are slightly quicker than FO8, so that's pretty good.
Precisely.
If the person who created this thread, I noticed English wasn't their best language, doesn't understand what we mean...
You will never be able to do what you want with a button that "clicks". A digital button will either be on (full throttle) or off (no throttle), you cannot press such a button halfway.
This is why threads like this get closed. People take it too seriously. As if I'm going to go and play anything else, FM servers are quite busy these days so I'll be around
Blimey, I'd delete it myself if I could.
I know, I noticed it on the main lfs.net page a few minutes ago and thought why not. I am not all caught up in the ins and outs of what should happen and when, I have never participated in the previous VW thread monstrosities.
My intentions were tongue in cheek.
See above.
Happy VW Postponement 6 Month Anniversary
It wasn't blocking. The inside was occupied by 2 FM cars who were drafting. I'm sure you are aware that the best practice if a single car is ahead of 2 cars that are side by side is for the single car ahead to move to the left and offer the draft to the left-hand car behind.
- 1
2 3
As you see from that very crude graphic, car 1 giving draft to car 3 is pointless, car 3 is boxed in and can't go anywhere.
You would have an argument for saying it was blocking if there was just 1 car constantly hanging around your inside. In this case I don't think you can say that.
Anyway, FM have a reputation for Oval racing, and as such we are there to be shot at. In this case I would say your shot was across the bow rather than a direct hit lol.
Peace out.
There will always be situations/occasions where an admin is not present. As with all other servers when this is the case, a replay saved and sent to the server owners website to show the problem is all that's required. I think that scenario would be highly unlikely, you are just trying to come up with a situation where the system would fail. Since the system has been running, since the server was created, I'm sure there are many more scenarios where the system has proved to work effectively.
You may think it is a very bad system, absolutely no problem, you are entitled to that view.
But it does say something about their temperament. I can't believe somebody would spend the time required to be a highly ranked driver on the server just so that they can then drive like a maniac however many weeks/months later and be immune from administrative action. If such a situation did occur, the driver in question would be dealt with.
As always, no matter what server not just ours, if it was not witnessed then a replay is required for action to be taken. If what you say is true, that is still no need to say the system fails if one person was misbehaving. There is also no need to say that because somebody with a higher rank may not have been behaving properly, that all people with a higher rank will also behave incorrectly.
No system is perfect. What system do you think would be better? Bearing in mind this has been in place for a considerable amount of time, and in this thread it has only now become an issue. Also I believe it is only an issue for you because you were a victim of it. Otherwise you would be happily driving around without thinking about it.
I have previously used the mini joystick of a game controller in other games, and basically you just have more of a feel of what you are doing.
If you have the mouse set up in LFS so that pushing it forward accelerates and pulling it backwards brakes then it is very difficult to tell when you are fully on the brakes or the power.
The idea behind it is that if you are a regular driver over a long period of time you must be fairly good/careful/considerate. It is designed so that when somebody brand-new comes in and screws it up and blames somebody who has proved themselves to have more experience and consideration, the noob can't start voting left right and centre.
Especially when the server is extremely busy, it helps keep the good people connected, and also helps to mitigate the situation where you get sheep who just press 1 without even knowing why.
It doesn't work the other way, higher ranked drivers can't take advantage of it. If you get the message that you were "kicked by priority vote", it means it was done by somebody with either full admin or limited admin status.
Without some sort of additional program, and I don't know what that would be, you cannot get analogue control from a digital switch.
I have heard of people using something like a controller from a PlayStation 2, which has pressure sensitive buttons... but then I suppose you would just use the mini joystick instead anyway.
I have heard of people using something like a controller from a PlayStation 2, which has pressure sensitive buttons... but then I suppose you would just use the mini joystick instead anyway.
"FM suck, Oval is not real racing!!"
Oh.... wait a minute
Oh.... wait a minute
I believe you need your name and country flag on the sides of the cockpit.
I am "the other guy" and I've just watched this incident for the first time since Friday. I watched it from within my car and again from within yours.
From my perspective, as soon as safety car was announced when we were in t3 I immediately started easing off. You and lizardfolk continued at racing speed for a little while longer which gave space between myself and both of you. You then came together (more on that in a moment) by which time I was right on top of you and I couldn't really move out of the way until I was sure where you are going to be after spinning. I just clipped you because my car received very little damage.
After watching the incident in your car I would say that you had some responsibility for the crash between you and lizardfolk because in my opinion, and only my opinion, you continued at racing speed for far too long. Deko writes a message, indicating to slow down, and you break quite hard when lizardfolk is right behind you.
The major incident was between you and lizardfolk, so you can sort that out amongst yourselves, but in my opinion with my experience, I have had very little to do with the incident in question. As I have already said, you had just spun at high speed and I had to wait until I was confident your car was not going to spin or you are not going to drive it to either side before I decided which way to get around you safely.
In Deko's decision-making process I will trust.
I can definitely understand the abuse concerns. I don't see why that cannot be controlled, all it would take is for players to complain about a certain server because they had put porn up or something.
I believe at the moment you can complain about account names and skins if they are deemed inappropriate, why not the same thing for adverts.
It might also be an opportunity for additional revenue either for teams or LFS directly. Anyway if it has already been discussed to death, I'm sure I'm saying nothing which hasn't already been said.
With a bit of time and effort and experimenting as to which files do what, you can customise things very well indeed.
On this subject it would be quite nice if you could control adverts around a track server side rather than each individual LFS installation needing certain things. We spend time downloading skins so it shouldn't be too much of an effort to go to more personalised servers.
Some FM members have things like this when we are on the Oval, which lets face it, is quite a lot of the time lol.
On this subject it would be quite nice if you could control adverts around a track server side rather than each individual LFS installation needing certain things. We spend time downloading skins so it shouldn't be too much of an effort to go to more personalised servers.
Some FM members have things like this when we are on the Oval, which lets face it, is quite a lot of the time lol.
You don't seem to want to accept that people can drive 100% fuel with R2 tyres and do 37.40s. I know very well that my server does not allow R2 tyres which is why I did it offline.
Something else to blow your mind is that when I was using 100% fuel and I drove around 80 laps to see what would happen with the tyres, they never went above 127'c. If your tyres are going way beyond that and with 100% fuel you cannot do 37.40s, it's not my fault.
I will make this as clear as possible.
- I drove on my own with nobody else
- 100% fuel & R2 tyres
- Lap times = 37.40s
- After 70 laps tyre temperatures = 127'c
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I have, within the last 20 minutes, I was doing 37.44's between 100% fuel and 95% fuel.
You should watch longer. It all depends upon the setup of course but if I am drafting with another FM member the tyres get quite hot no doubt about it for the first 20 or so laps, they then begin to cool down and you can draft as long as you like. Longer than the time that 45% fuel would allow you to do. Like I have already said, each person has their own way of thinking and that's all good. The only thing I'm disagreeing about is that with 100% fuel you can do 37.40s with no trouble.
Cheers wild, you have saved me some typing lol.
The key is avoiding damage and needing to go into the pits unnecessarily. If there were loads of safety car periods and the only reason you had to pit was for fuel of tyres, you can do the whole race with a couple of stops.
With all the safety cars in the practice session last Friday, as I have already mentioned, I did the 40 laps I was on track with 18% fuel.
Anyway, this is well off topic considering we are in the rules thread, but it is good to see that everyone has a different opinion on strategy. It would be boring if everybody was going to try doing the same thing.
The key is avoiding damage and needing to go into the pits unnecessarily. If there were loads of safety car periods and the only reason you had to pit was for fuel of tyres, you can do the whole race with a couple of stops.
With all the safety cars in the practice session last Friday, as I have already mentioned, I did the 40 laps I was on track with 18% fuel.
Anyway, this is well off topic considering we are in the rules thread, but it is good to see that everyone has a different opinion on strategy. It would be boring if everybody was going to try doing the same thing.
It' just because we know there will be slow periods behind safe cars, but if you could guarantee long stretches of 2 car drafting you would definitely want a lot of fuel, the tyres will last with a decent set.
Like I said because of safety car periods it may well not be worth carrying the extra weight as safety car periods are quite economical. In the practice session last Friday I had enough fuel in order to do all 45 laps at full speed without stopping. With the safety car periods I only used around half the fuel I was carrying, but can you take that chance in the big race.
It's just something else to consider and hopefully it is what will make the race great, strategies with fuel may well play a big part.
Fragmaster represent!*
* that means I'll be joining, by the way lol
* that means I'll be joining, by the way lol
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