How well are these tires meant to hold up on the XF i no its a high powered FWD car so thsoe tires are going to heat up real fast, but is it just me or am i doing somthing incorrect as i just cant get the things to hold up in a sprint race without hitting 110 degrees +

I did think maybe r2's on the front are just not teh way to go so i tried r3's didnt last much better and i still couldnt complete 3 full laps on the things without red areas apperaing, thou when im asking people in the servers what tires there using they all say r2's and theres seems to last a full 3-5 laps putting in very good times.


Is it just me ? casue i love this little car but for seems reason the tires hate me

Just woke up and finaly its out congrats to the team
My usal hang out CTRA is down were is everyone playing today ?

Just woundering if anyone will be doing a quick update to the "Easy setup" thats if bob isnt doing it himself for the latest version "patch X" and its new clutch pack

When freind come round i find his setup to be the best for them to play on.
No matter what car or rack combo bobs always seemed the best for them.

The WR setups are way to twitchy for them to use. and the defualt setup is way to slow.

I dont understand setups inside LFS to do the work myself and keeping the cars so balanced.

Couldnt find anything on this when using search just woundered if anything like this could fit into LFS. Im a big fan of 4wd's and id love to see somthing like the older wrx's(im just not a fan of the new shaped scoobys) and new styled evolutions represented in the game(i can live with the older shaped one version 5 being my fav ).

Imo there a huge part of the car world and id love to see them in lfs.
I think the acceleration and handling abilities on some of the smaller or city tracks would be first class. Id really like to see both cars represented in S3
The amount of different version for each cars means the possablitys are endless..

Anyway back onto the car in hand.. remember seeing this in an auto mag and on top gear. The handling and acceleration were imense. Id love to take this around aston :P

(The car uses a lot of WRC technology and ive read a few threads that mention WRC cars are a huge possablity for LFS in the future. Maybe this road car could be a great building block for getting WRC handling and technologys working inside LFS.)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Prodrive P2

Manufacturer Prodrive
Production 2006 (Concept)
Class Sports

The Prodrive P2 is a prototype two-seater sports car designed, engineered and built by Prodrive at its Banbury and Warwick sites. The car is based on the platform of the Subaru R1 keicar and has a modified Subaru Impreza WRX STi engine along with many Prodrive systems originally designed for their World Rally Championship and Sports Car Racing programmes. The cars styling was done by Peter Stevens who also designed the McLaren F1. The car includes rally-inspired anti-lag to prevent turbo lag, as well as an active center and active rear differential that maximizes grip.

A fully working car has been built and tested on the TV motoring programme, Top Gear,It has 340bhp and no turbo lag due to WRC style Misfiring system obtaining a 0-60mph time in 3.8 seconds, and a laptime of 1:24.3 beating other cars such as the TVR Sagaris, BMW M5 and Aston Martin Vanquish.
The car has an active rear differential, which automatically shifts torque to whichever of the four wheels need it most during maneuvering, based on spin-slip sensor readings, and is a common rally-car technology rarely seen on road cars. This causes the car's centre of gravity (CG) to move forwards and backwards quite rapidly during hard cornering - which can be physiologically unsettling to an unexperienced driver.
The constanly shifting CG is what caused Jeremy Clarkson to vomit on camera, and created an instant legend for the car.

Despite this, and the fact that Prodrive believe the car could retail for around £40,000, Prodrive have said there are no plans to put the car into production at present.

Hello m8, download Ghost car mod, one of the features is a slpit time like what your asking for i guess...

if u dont want to actualy see the gjost u can diable it but still see if your up or down ie -0.45 at each sector split. I belive thats what your asking for.

Quote from Jakg :

It's 270°

The way to set up logitech wheels should apply to your wheel if you have the option - have a look at the last paragraph in my wheels guide in my sig

So my MS ff is defo 270

i have read your guide.. and it says for MS FF

Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback wheel

Old and discontinued, but a good wheel, expect to pick one up from eBay for £5-£10 (~$10-$20) excluding postage (which, due to the size and weight of a wheel could easily be as much, if not more, than the wheel itself!). This wheel has 240° of rotation and FFB

So am i right in setting the wheel at 240 instead of 270 someone told me the other day its a 270 degree wheel were as im sure its 240..

also in steering settings for each car do u need to change anything there to get a better feel ?

Thxs GF ill have a look now.

Ok guys i have an old MS FF wheel which as fas as i no is 240 degree wheel so i have that set ingame..

Theres 3 options im unsure what figure to set them to thou.

1 Steer center reduction:
2 Analogue steer smooth:
3 Throttle/brake centre reduction

Anyone give me an heads up on what to set these to that best suits my wheel.

Simply put if we get another LX imo its should look just like this.

@GF i wouldnt think about scrapping the idea just yet, give it a little time, for me its a great little idea. Im sure more people will sign up as time goes by.

How about a little bit of advertiment or somthing like GF ladder skins.
People in your league can then wear the skins with your website and details on..Get everyone from each race to upload the replays, and we can create a video of the highlight from some of the best races.. maybe things like that will help promote the ladder.

Quote from deggis :

Take some turbo car, accelerate to 6th gear and drop to 1st gear or reverse at full speed... with both gearcut and blip turned off. The engine should do "popcorns" after that.

Yer i no in that respect your engine makes a high pitch pop noise.. I just mean in a race i hardley ever lift on upshifts... on downshifts of course i lift..

Just didnt relise that not lifting on upshifts is giving damage like i say i cant feel any real difference as the race goes on.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

Sure mate. Go and register and I'll add you http://gentlefoot.com//LFS/forum/index.php

done

Quote from STROBE :

I think one of the first things that should be implemented is radiator damage from running into the back of people. The temperature gauge is already in the cars so presumably this is on the "to do" list at some point, I just hope it makes it into S2 rather than S3 as it will totally change online racing for the better - being careless under braking and hitting the guy in front would have consequences.

For me that would be the improvment id most like to see in LFS. Im sick to death of being scared to brake into T1 due to the fact it seems, only a few if any online racers care about destroying your race, just to gain a slight advantage..

Its become that bad on UKCT ill now make sure im slow off the start and let enough people past me off the grid so i can coast into T1 and react to everything going on around me..

Gets a big thumbs up from me

Quote :

Suspensions need to be breakable (very apparent on single seaters) and should resist less abuse (kerbhopping). That would be a very big step forward.

The number 2 on my most wanted list of improvments..

How some people cut the corners online is very unsportmanly, and looks very silly when your see cars take off, and loose no speed at all and recive no kinda penalty, actualy you gain speed by doing this, quite a lot at some section of the track were the idea is to slow down, its the whole point in high curbs afaik.

For me these two small improvments alone will drasticly change the way online racing is played, for the better.

Last edited by Spils, Mon 21 May 2007, 13:42.

I didnt no ingame engine damage was modled by pure flatshifting. i do it quite a lot (im lazy:shy
Didnt relise it was harming my engine, cant say i noticed the effects

ill try the RB4 and FOX ladder if u dont mind signing me up

Before anyone screams do a search, i have but didnt seem to find the info i was after.

Ok in this game does brake help work like ABS ie it stops you locking the brakes, or does it work like some other games were it applys the brake for you when the computer feels its needed.

I only saw the option the other day, and it seems ive been driving the whole time without help.. Am i hindering myself or what by not using it. ?

the omega drivers are from last year id say 6.8's im using and yer i have a LCD

its weird as ive read all the other thread but those guys ahve problems with both AF and AA i have np with AA no jagged lines what so ever..

its just with AF on the start finsh straight for example i cant see the little start grid lines until im up close and all whites lines on the track also the texture of the track looks craoppy at distance, render as i get close not at distance how i expect Af to work

Quote from garph :

I was getting that, back to desk top, after I updated ZoneAlarm. It was because it had turned the auto update back on, soon as I turned it off again it was fine.

If that doesn't sort it you'll have to dig a little deeper, it will be something trying to update or something like that so you'll just have to try and find it.

Thxs for the reply its seems weve sorted the issue i have updated zonealarm think it was about 2 weeks ago. i had a feeling it was something along these lines myself. just wasnt sure if was was a windows service or anything like that giving me the issue and im sure someone else in the past would of had the same issue.. thxs for the help guys. Ill turn auto update off when i get home and im sure it will sort the issue..

Back on to problem one can anyone help with my AF issue its doing my nut in i can run the game flat out but im missing out on AF rendering my textures nicely

Quote from VTiRoj :

Mine does that when something running in the background pops up, like Firewalls or Updates, or MSN if I'm silly enough to leave it on.

If that isnt your case I cant help you sorry.

I do leave my firewall running and somtimes i forget to turn msn off.. But windows updates is disabled.. so you recon its definatly a background task?

Ill close everything off tonight and test it see if it fixes the issue..i had a good feeling it was somthing like that myself. just hope its not my firewall i dont really want to have to knock that off for 1 hour + just so i can play a game.

1: ) Ok guys first problem no matter what i cant force AF to work ive got AA and it works in LFS np, but i cant for the sake of me get AF to work ive used my ati tool to try and get it running but still it wont work..

My graphics card is an ati 850 xt pe and im using omega drivers it will be somthing like 6.8 or 6.9 cats theres worked off.

2: ) My other problem is every known then LFS will just drop to desktop the game doesnt crash i can alt tab and im back in the game.. Its as if LFS as a mind of its own and likes to alt tab to my desktop every once ina while. this happens every time i play. Im not sure if its a problem with my firewall, i use zonealarm if that helps.

any ideas guys on how to fix these problems??

Last edited by Spils, Thu 3 May 2007, 08:56.

Lo all got myself a ms wheel just to try out Lfs and love it, over the past 2 weeks its took a pounded and as become loose around the center theres about a 2mm play in all direction. doesnt sound much but it makes my wheel a pain to center..

Anyone no if its worth taking a part and having a look ?? not sure if it worth it as ive never took one apart can it be tightened from inside ?